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Posted by: Paul M
« on: May 24, 2019, 02:19:41 PM »

It is UTM 1.1 sorry I should have been more specific but after 3 days walking around Berlin...and a few beers I was a bit out of it!

I'm still baffled how to interpret the -2 vrs fighters and -3 vrs starships thing...given other rules say they can only gain -2 from EM...
Posted by: Kurt
« on: May 24, 2019, 09:42:38 AM »

This is just a question for anyone to comment on.

Starslayer and I have just hit a battle between the Omega (Black Bugs) and the Alliance (Cannon Cartel and Undines).  Looking at the rules for gunboats a few oddities show up:

1.  It says "fighters/small craft/gunboats" can use a maximum of -2 EM from movement.  But the rules for gunboats say they can have a maximum of -3 versus starships.  So what the heck is this supposed to mean?  They can use 6 MP to generate -3 versus starships but that counts as only -2 versus fighters?   Or they can only use a maxium of 4 MPs to generate -2 versus either?

2.  It says under the rules for gunboats they can't use f?x.   It says under the f?x rules that "fighters/small craft/gunboats" gain bonus points from the use of the system.  Which is likely to be correct?

Also fighter weapons use halve the effect FRD...that makes EM of -1 not worth doing in small craft vrs small craft fights.  Joy.

It would be helpful if I knew what "it" is, as there are a number of versions of the rules out there.  It's been a while since I played Starfire, although I am looking at starting a campaign in the near future, so my memory may be sketchy. 

For number 1 & 2 above, I would always defer to the rules for gunboats.  That is most likely to be the best rule of thumb, even if other rules sections mention gunboats. 

Kurt
Posted by: Paul M
« on: May 23, 2019, 04:14:49 PM »

This is just a question for anyone to comment on.

Starslayer and I have just hit a battle between the Omega (Black Bugs) and the Alliance (Cannon Cartel and Undines).  Looking at the rules for gunboats a few oddities show up:

1.  It says "fighters/small craft/gunboats" can use a maximum of -2 EM from movement.  But the rules for gunboats say they can have a maximum of -3 versus starships.  So what the heck is this supposed to mean?  They can use 6 MP to generate -3 versus starships but that counts as only -2 versus fighters?   Or they can only use a maxium of 4 MPs to generate -2 versus either?

2.  It says under the rules for gunboats they can't use f?x.   It says under the f?x rules that "fighters/small craft/gunboats" gain bonus points from the use of the system.  Which is likely to be correct?

Also fighter weapons use halve the effect FRD...that makes EM of -1 not worth doing in small craft vrs small craft fights.  Joy.