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Offline Vynadan

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2011, 03:09:17 AM »
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Ambassador Sun Wu Shan of the Antarctican Harbour adresses the current issue with The League of NSN:

"We have to speak in favour of The League and their request to join the other currently significiant nations in the Chicxulub Embassies. It is understandable how many trans-newtonian nations are currently averse to this request, but there is no doubt for us, that The League must be given a voice.

They have shown in their commentary that they wish to speak out for their own interests here on Earth, something that simply cannot be denied to them. Even with our common utilisation of trans-newtonian minerals, we all still inhabit this planet and our political decisions impact humanity's birthplace equally as strong as other planets within Sol that now feature human presence.
It is true that The League has no interest in interplanetary flight, but this gathering here is not solely focused on such, either. The League is well aware of this, and should remain silent in everything that goes beyond Earth and perhaps Luna orbit, but they nervertheless have reason to be represented here for all terran matters.

We cannot forget that despite today's situation, only about half of Earth's surface is actually claimed by trans-newtonian nations. The League and yet unclaimed territory make up a large portion of our plant's area and populace. Furthermore, the former nations which The League represents have held their own during the Invader invasion and indirectly aided the struggle of all others.

In regards to military means, we do not wish to indulge further into this topic at the moment. We are well aware that every nation, be it trans-newtonian or not, will point out its military strength and do so with vigor. A 'fair' comparison of this military might won't be achieved until war - and that should be no goal from any of us."
 

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2011, 05:12:14 AM »
At no point have objections been raised to the League having an embassy and a voice here. The AD only objects if the League chooses to attempt to influence our policy in areas in which it has no interest, such as space exploration. We welcome additional voices in discussion of Terran issues, but must reiterate that the embassies here do not constitute an administrative organization, and does not set policy for humanity at large. Nothing discussed in this forum has the force of law behind it, only the policies of individual nations.

On the topic, what has the league done to strengthen non TN nations on Earth? The Horde was destroyed by the combined efforts of the TN nations, and if left unchecked would have destroyed at least one of the Leagues current members, the League has yet to even speak on the situation in Mexico, which the AD is currently forming plans to resolve, and how does it intend to help its member nations should another Vault open? Ask for help? If the League wishes to be viewed as a serious power, it must actually take action at some point, currently all we have heard is condemnation of the TN nations for annexing territories and expanding into space.
 

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2011, 08:40:48 AM »
The ENC agrees that a secret vote is not required. This is simply a place for open discussion and our opinions should be public unless there is a clear reason it should be otherwise.

It is our belief that the League of Non-Spacefaring Nations should be given a voice here to speak on any subject they feel concerns them.
Although it should be noted that that voice may not carry much weight in matters beyond Earth orbit.

Also since the topic of Mexico has been raised, the Empire of New Canada would like to take this opportunity to offer the government of Mexico our assistance in dealing with these criminals. The Horde has taught us that issues such as these are a concern to all nations and must be dealt with before they get out hand.
 

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2011, 11:57:47 AM »
"As the nation who suffered the attack of the horde, the mexico issue will be dealt with swiftly before it becomes a danger to us all. You will thank us when you do not get nuked."
 

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2011, 06:42:04 AM »
Embassy of the League of NSNs. Charles Waverly addresses the forum, however he has noticed the number of seat empty to which he smiles disappointingly at.

I would like to thanks the supports of the League in particular the Antarctican Harbour for it kind words.

Our charter is simple, this planet is our only habitable planet and we want to make sure the planet is sustainable and is not destroyed by power and reckless use of technology.

We would like to see an end to all Earth bound missile technology of mass destruction, we do understand its peaceful purposes in space. But the need for ICBM and TN missile technology as a threat to this planet is too great.

We would propose a treaty that ensures missile technology made on earth to have a trigger switch that cannot be detonated on Earth or in the altitude of Earth, of course the installation and trigger assembly may be made by an independent body from all nation to oversee the project.

We understand this is a great leap of faith for all nations, but at the very least we could start with a simple promise. A treaty that no missiles of mass destruction will be used on Earth. Conventional and TN forces to resolve disputes or issues within the planet.

Our stance on nations that are recovering, we will open our arms and support any nation in the league and provide defence personnel, but we cannot interfere in another countries politics or internal issues. So in the case of Mexico they have refused to join the league so our hands are bound. History has too many time the promise of a saviour only to be a new type of tyranny.

We have already started to work with so TN nations we look forward to working with others in the future.
 

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2011, 11:21:48 AM »
"While the idea is a good one, who's to say that if we take those tiggers that they would even be installed into the missiles? If you are even thinking of gaining access to the Veils missile stock then you have another thing coming. No inspector will ever lay eyes on our missiles. You would only have our and any other nation who doesn't want their missile silos exposed, word for it."
 

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2011, 12:33:39 PM »
The American Dominion will happily sign a treaty prohibiting the use of nuclear weapons on Earth, but will not permit outside inspectors into our most secure of locations, nor will we permit safeties outside of our direct control to be installed. The very idea is madness.
 

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Re: The Chicxulub Crater debates
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2011, 12:43:44 PM »
"we could generate a batch of mindless clones" is suggested by the original.
who is told to be The Original, the ruling force of the galactical neo-italy himself.
what is not know is that it's simply a clone of The Original, as the Original is hiding inside a safe house in the depth of the Vesuvio.
"or declare a specific area completely neutral, with automated machines to install those triggers."
is added then.
"but i'd too rather not deal into revealing our Clusters missiles." he adds.
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it is if you're sending them to die.
i'm not. they just need to learn to be better.
at NOT BREATHING ON MARS!?
they need NOT TO CARE!
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