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Offline luarvic

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Translation to other languages?
« on: February 06, 2012, 07:34:54 PM »
Hello guys, im sorry for my poor english (im russian), so what i wanted to ask: is there any possibility that Steve will do some tools to translate Aurora on other languages? I mean file "russian. txt" with lines like "Population=?????????", "Production=????????????", etc. 

Im actually did some work, and succeed in capturing Api calls (all texts in Aurora is written by ExtTextOutW), and replacing it with my own functions with "find-translate" - code.  As a result i got a little bugy and very slow but working solution thats replaces any captions, texts, tables in Aurora.

Anyway, im okay with english, but if someone need it, i can finish it.
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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 09:46:51 PM »
Sounds like it could be useful! I could help with Russian (Amerikanets govoryashchii chut' po-russki) and some other languages if they were in demand. What do our Italian players do?
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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 05:12:40 PM »
Difficult to get Cyrillic to appear on the forum so I improvised :)

 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 09:46:00 PM »
I mean pretty everything in game should be Russian if we want big community from CIS  :)
cause, you know, learning something like Aurora is 10 times harder when you cant understand 90% of hints.  I saw many people who said "Holy smeg! Its game of my dreams! Is there a ruseg?" and after "Nope" they disappear crying.
So anyway here what im talking about.
 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 04:37:00 AM »
I mean pretty everything in game should be Russian if we want big community from CIS  :)
cause, you know, learning something like Aurora is 10 times harder when you cant understand 90% of hints.  I saw many people who said "Holy smeg! Its game of my dreams! Is there a ruseg?" and after "Nope" they disappear crying.
So anyway here what im talking about.

Ah - well at least I guessed right on Duranium :)

I can read Cyrillic, although my Russian is very limited, so the challenge would really be technical rather than linguistic. Assuming that VB6 will accept the character set, I think I would have to translate everything and compile a different version. It would be a massive task but also interesting and the latter is usually more important :)

I might do a test later this week for one screen and see how it looks.

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 05:32:35 AM »
Ah - well at least I guessed right on Duranium :)

I can read Cyrillic, although my Russian is very limited, so the challenge would really be technical rather than linguistic. Assuming that VB6 will accept the character set, I think I would have to translate everything and compile a different version. It would be a massive task but also interesting and the latter is usually more important :)

I might do a test later this week for one screen and see how it looks.

Steve

It's not as easy in VB6 as in later versions, but you could use a resource file to contain the English, Russian, Italian, Chinese, Rigellian, etc. translations. You'd just have to tokenize the crap out of everything. And any code relying on labels is going to get broken hardcore. ;)
 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 06:33:42 AM »
Um, well. I'd like to do the translation part (for free, of course) since I've never done any software-translation before (being an MA in Translation Studies) and I wonder what does it look like >_>

I have a strong feeling Steve seem to want to translate it on his own though >_>

Anyway, I think that translating wiki and the manuals into Russian would be much more useful, than translating the very game, actually.
 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 06:48:50 AM »
It's not as easy in VB6 as in later versions, but you could use a resource file to contain the English, Russian, Italian, Chinese, Rigellian, etc. translations. You'd just have to tokenize the crap out of everything. And any code relying on labels is going to get broken hardcore. ;)

Just can't wait for that Rigellian version!   ::)
 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 07:57:35 AM »
If using different alphabets is a problem, in my experience, many educated Russians can read their language written in the Latin alphabet. It's how I communicate with Russian friends since I don't know their keyboard very well.
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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 12:17:12 PM »
Um, well. I'd like to do the translation part (for free, of course) since I've never done any software-translation before (being an MA in Translation Studies) and I wonder what does it look like >_>

I have a strong feeling Steve seem to want to translate it on his own though >_>

Anyway, I think that translating wiki and the manuals into Russian would be much more useful, than translating the very game, actually.

You can try to create translated pages in the wiki. I've been looking into how to make it possible, and the documentation is very obtuse in this regard. Let me know how it goes for you and we can work on getting it working.
 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 02:26:11 PM »
You can try to create translated pages in the wiki. I've been looking into how to make it possible, and the documentation is very obtuse in this regard. Let me know how it goes for you and we can work on getting it working.

I used to write manuals/explanations before and since your current wiki is not that big I dont think there would be any problems with that. With translation, I mean. Dunno about the software side though.
 

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 02:48:26 PM »
I used to write manuals/explanations before and since your current wiki is not that big I dont think there would be any problems with that. With translation, I mean. Dunno about the software side though.

Let me know if you have any issues software side and I'll see what I can do.
 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 12:41:21 AM »
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If using different alphabets is a problem, in my experience, many educated Russians can read their language written in the Latin alphabet.   It's how I communicate with Russian friends since I don't know their keyboard very well. 

I registered specifically to reply to this.   No, just no.   First of all, not just educated russians can do it, all russians can because it's just an alphabet, not a different language, and nothing hard to understand.   However, this is ugly and disgusting, and people mostly use it temporarily, when they are, say, in some other country and don't know the keyboard by heart, so can't type in russian with reasonable speed when letters are not on keyboard.   That's the horrible idea and i think even those who don't know english would prefer english version over it; by the way, it's called "translit". 

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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 08:11:58 AM »
I registered specifically to reply to this.  No, just no.  First of all, not just educated russians can do it, all russians can because it's just an alphabet, not a different language, and nothing hard to understand.  However, this is ugly and disgusting, and people mostly use it temporarily, when they are, say, in some other country and don't know the keyboard by heart, so can't type in russian with reasonable speed when letters are not on keyboard.  That's the horrible idea and i think even those who don't know english would prefer english version over it; by the way, it's called "translit".

Heh, my apologies for disturbing you. In hindsight, it is just a bit silly to propose that they should be forced to read in Latin. And I mean, luarvic showed it can be done in Cyrillic just fine.

Nu, ladno. (If only the forums supported Cyrillic)
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Re: Translation to other languages?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 01:14:24 AM »
Well. . .  is it really that hard to include cyrillic support here?
 

 

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