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Offline MarcellHUN

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First FAC designs
« on: May 21, 2017, 10:34:38 AM »
Hi everybody!

So these are my first FAC designs for my carriers.  This is also my first post so I hope you can read it. 


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Hussar class Fast Attack Craft    1 000 tons     3 Crew     249.3 BP      TCS 20  TH 96  EM 0
9600 km/s     Armour 3-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 9.6
Maint Life 3.41 Years     MSP 39    AFR 32%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 5    5YR 77    Max Repair 72 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 64   

Maybach 96 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 96    Fuel Use 274.36%    Signature 48    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 30 000 Litres    Range 2.0 billion km   (56 hours at full power)

Size 4 Box Launcher (16)    Missile Size 4    Hangar Reload 30 minutes    MF Reload 5 hours
Missile Fire Control FC55-R100 (50%) (1)     Range 55.4m km    Resolution 100
Striker I 4-ASM-51 (16)  Speed: 38 400 km/s   End: 22.2m    Range: 51.1m km   WH: 6    Size: 4    TH: 179/107/53

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Jäger class Fast Attack Craft    1 000 tons     6 Crew     314.5 BP      TCS 20  TH 96  EM 0
9600 km/s     Armour 3-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 7.82
Maint Life 2.46 Years     MSP 49    AFR 32%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 11    5YR 168    Max Repair 77 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 4   

Maybach 96 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 96    Fuel Use 274.36%    Signature 48    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 45 000 Litres    Range 3.0 billion km   (3 days at full power)

Twin Sprinkler Gauss Cannon R3-50 Turret (1x6)    Range 30 000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Wahlberg Dynamics Fire Control S02 32-16000 (1)    Max Range: 64 000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Lissa class Fast Scout Craft    1 000 tons     17 Crew     443.5 BP      TCS 20  TH 96  EM 0
9600 km/s     Armour 3-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 33/11/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 2.42 Years     MSP 69    AFR 32%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 16    5YR 242    Max Repair 158 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.5 months    Spare Berths 1   

Maybach 96 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 96    Fuel Use 274.36%    Signature 48    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 45 000 Litres    Range 3.0 billion km   (3 days at full power)

Scheetz-Herz Active Search Sensor MR1-R1 (50%) (1)     GPS 17     Range 1.8m km    MCR 200k km    Resolution 1
Scheetz-Herz Active Search Sensor(Ship) MR115-R100 (50%) (1)     GPS 10500     Range 115.5m km    Resolution 100
Thermal Sensor TH3-33 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 33     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  33m km
Memminger Electronic Systems EM Detection Sensor EM1-11 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  11m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

I made them in 2061 so these are pretty early tech models.  I have a big PDC too to store them.  I am not satisfied with the Jäger PD capabilities and my missiles are a bit slow. 

So what do you think? How can I improve them?

Sorry for bad/simple english My english is a bit rusty.



 

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Re: First FAC designs
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 10:40:57 AM »
And these are for planetary defense and limited range attacks:

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Berlin class Missile Frigate    3 000 tons     62 Crew     713 BP      TCS 60  TH 240  EM 0
8000 km/s     Armour 4-18     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 18
Maint Life 4.5 Years     MSP 297    AFR 36%    IFR 0.5%    1YR 24    5YR 356    Max Repair 180 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.6 months    Spare Berths 3   
Magazine 120   

Junkers 240 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 240    Fuel Use 124.01%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 215 000 Litres    Range 10.4 billion km   (15 days at full power)

Size 6 Box Launcher (20)    Missile Size 6    Hangar Reload 45 minutes    MF Reload 7.5 hours
Scheetz-Herz Missile Fire Control FC110-R100 (50%) (2)     Range 110.9m km    Resolution 100

ECM 20

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Mars class Frigate    3 000 tons     112 Crew     706 BP      TCS 60  TH 240  EM 0
8000 km/s     Armour 4-18     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 18.46
Maint Life 3.78 Years     MSP 294    AFR 36%    IFR 0.5%    1YR 32    5YR 484    Max Repair 180 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.6 months    Spare Berths 6   

Junkers 240 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 240    Fuel Use 124.01%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 215 000 Litres    Range 10.4 billion km   (15 days at full power)

Quad R3/C3 Meson Cannon Turret (1x4)    Range 30 000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 12-12     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Wahlberg Dynamics Fire Control S02 32-16000 (1)    Max Range: 64 000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0
Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (2)     Total Power Output 12    Armour 0    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Luna class Frigate Leader    3 000 tons     90 Crew     956 BP      TCS 60  TH 240  EM 0
8000 km/s     Armour 6-18     Shields 0-0     Sensors 110/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 0
Maint Life 3.9 Years     MSP 398    AFR 36%    IFR 0.5%    1YR 41    5YR 621    Max Repair 180 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.6 months    Spare Berths 4   

Junkers 240 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 240    Fuel Use 124.01%    Signature 120    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 215 000 Litres    Range 10.4 billion km   (15 days at full power)

Scheetz-Herz Active Search Sensor(Ship) MR115-R100 (50%) (1)     GPS 10500     Range 115.5m km    Resolution 100
Scheetz-Herz Active Search Sensor MR1-R1 (50%) (2)     GPS 17     Range 1.8m km    MCR 200k km    Resolution 1
Memminger Electronic Systems Thermal Sensor TH10-110 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  110m km

ECM 20

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


 

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Re: First FAC designs
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 12:54:40 PM »
Maintenance lives seem excessive for most use and insufficient if you want your designs to not need maintenance ever.

You don't need electronic hardening on your sensors.

You probably don't want Gauss turrets on fast ships. A 10cm railgun tracking at 9600km/s is much better than a 3-shot, half-accuracy Gauss cannon tracking at 16000km/s.

How do mesons fit into your weapon lineup? Those generally don't combine well with other weapons and I see nothing specific that makes them attractive.

For missiles it'd be good to have your MSP allocations.
 
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Re: First FAC designs
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 01:05:44 PM »
Your missiles are different sizes, this could cause logistics problems.
The passive sensors are probably not needed.  Either the DSTS of the planet you are defending or the fleet sensors any carrier group should be carrying should be sufficient.
You don't need a hangar for FACs stationed around a planet, only fighters.
Your engines appear to be using thermal reduction.  Useful for scouting potentially hostile systems with passive sensors, not so much for defending populated systems using active sensors.
You should match the ECM on your frigates.
Your missile salvo size is large.
Your warhead size is not optimised.
Agility may increase your chance to hit but speed is more important to avoid point defence.
The maintenance supplies on your FACs are lower than their maximum repair cost.
Nothing can be done about tracking speed at your current tech level, missiles are simply OP.
I'm not sure why you have mesons on your frigate rather than gauss cannons.
 
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Re: First FAC designs
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2017, 05:38:40 PM »
I split up the sensors on my scout fighters.  The goal is to have the sensor/footprint ratio as much in your favor as possible.  You want to be able to detect the enemy outside the range they can detect your scout.  Failing that, you want to be able to detect them outside of the range that they can have missile fire control on your scout.

As to whether you have sensors on them or rely on colony sensors, I try to put a sensor buoy on every jump point, so that I have some warning about someone else walking around in my space.  My colony defense philosophy is to try to contain damage with point defense, and to provide information to my empire on the nature and number of the attackers.
 

 

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