Aurora 4x

New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: vaaern on July 11, 2012, 02:37:27 PM

Title: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 11, 2012, 02:37:27 PM
Hi,

I'm new to this game and (like many) very confused.  I've tried following the tutorial on the wiki, but some things are not explained (I think).  I'm designing the ship like the one in the tutorial and after adding my second engine or sensor, the summary only displays the name of the ship, all the info about speed and armor just vanishes.  I also cannot build anything (I think I know how to do it, but the ship class doesn't show up).  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Nathan_ on July 11, 2012, 06:06:07 PM
Please post screenshots of both the design page and the summary page. I've yet to see anything like that.

I can delete the ship summary myself, but making any further changes to the design brings it all back.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 12, 2012, 05:05:10 AM
Ok here are the screenshots! I followed the tutorial exactly (also the video tutorial) and still the same :( reinstalled it completely too (also using the wiki for this)!
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Erik L on July 12, 2012, 05:12:11 AM
Silly question. You did click the New button first?
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 12, 2012, 05:23:36 AM
Yes I did :)
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Steve Walmsley on July 12, 2012, 11:35:17 AM
Defiitely something wrong there :). Its almost as if the summary has started to display and then stopped. What happens if you add anything or remove it?

Steve
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 12, 2012, 11:52:10 AM
Whenever I add something it adds up in the screen on the right but, the biggest screen stays like in the screen shot. 
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Gothmos on July 12, 2012, 08:36:56 PM
That is very odd indeed :S

By chance, did you manually remove the text in the summary box?
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 13, 2012, 03:47:39 AM
No, then I would know the source of the problem :p
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 13, 2012, 05:12:17 AM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley link=topic=5070. msg51779#msg51779 date=1342110917
Defiitely something wrong there :).  Its almost as if the summary has started to display and then stopped.  What happens if you add anything or remove it?

Steve

Ah, when I remove the last added item (which causes the text to vanish) the text comes back, though that isn't really handy since I could only add 2 things before the text vanishes.  :(
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 18, 2012, 02:41:24 PM
Still haven't found any solution for this sadly :(
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Erik L on July 18, 2012, 02:49:12 PM
Still haven't found any solution for this sadly :(

If you start a new game, does the behavior persist?
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 18, 2012, 02:54:08 PM
Yes, I have reinstalled the game on several locations, started multiple games (with different names).  Can't try on another computer sadly.  Don't understand why it happens all the time.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: TheDeadlyShoe on July 19, 2012, 04:57:20 AM
My instinct is to call it a write-protect or anti-virus problem; the game might have trouble accessing the database. Also, are you running windows 7?
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Rabid_Cog on July 19, 2012, 05:39:55 AM
This sounds like it could be Win7's automatic write protect. Either install the game in an 'allowed' place (under your profile in docs and settings) or run it as administrator. I have found I need to run most things under administrator.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: sloanjh on July 19, 2012, 07:55:13 AM
This sounds like it could be Win7's automatic write protect. Either install the game in an 'allowed' place (under your profile in docs and settings) or run it as administrator. I have found I need to run most things under administrator.

Yep, you definitely should not install Aurora in Program Files.  Most people put it into a directory that they made themselves - for me I use c:\games\aurora.  Just running it as admin probably isn't enough (IIRC).

John
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Garfunkel on July 19, 2012, 01:24:00 PM
If you have Vista or Win7 (or 8) and have UAC (User Account/Access Controls) enabled (and it is by default), then never install games under C:\Program Files as Windows tries to protect all files in/under that directory, to "safe guard" users. Always install to somewhere like C:\Games   instead.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 19, 2012, 03:02:08 PM
I will try installing it under c:/games again then, and try to run as administrator (I've tried that, but not sure where it was installed at that moment).  I slightly giving up on this, I haven't even been able to start the game properly :(
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Rabid_Cog on July 20, 2012, 08:02:13 AM
Yes, if its in program files you are screwed. However, I have found that if I install anything anywhere but under /docsandsettings/users/myusername/whatever then I have to run it as administrator or it is not allowed to write ANYTHING on my harddrive.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 22, 2012, 07:53:06 AM
So I've installed it several times again.  Deleted everything, installed again.  Run as admin etc.  Still same problem.  I installed it on my netbook.  It's fine there but I can't play on that thing because it's too slow.  I am totally clueless right now.  I have no idea why it's doing this. . . 
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 23, 2012, 05:27:16 PM
I think I solved the problem. Changed my country settings to english (vs), opened the program, test (which was issue free). Then changed back to previous country setting and problem didn't come back. Tomorrow I will finally be able to try to play for real.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Erik L on July 23, 2012, 06:25:23 PM
I think I solved the problem. Changed my country settings to english (vs), opened the program, test (which was issue free). Then changed back to previous country setting and problem didn't come back. Tomorrow I will finally be able to try to play for real.

The only issue you might run into now is if your country settings use a , for a decimal separator.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 24, 2012, 02:34:01 AM
The only issue you might run into now is if your country settings use a , for a decimal separator.

 what kind of issue?
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: Erik L on July 24, 2012, 06:04:54 AM
what kind of issue?

If the game attempts to save a number, such as 10 and a half. With the comma as the separator, it confuses the game and causes a crash.
Title: Re: Class design and building ships
Post by: vaaern on July 24, 2012, 11:07:35 AM
If the game attempts to save a number, such as 10 and a half. With the comma as the separator, it confuses the game and causes a crash.

Ok, Well, wish me luck in this. First real try :) if possible to lock this topic, please do :)