Aurora 4x

New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: sneer on January 10, 2014, 03:51:19 AM

Title: obsolete tech
Post by: sneer on January 10, 2014, 03:51:19 AM

how to undo obsolete stuff from basic ship systems ?
I cant find it in tech view ...

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: SteelChicken on January 10, 2014, 07:20:13 AM

Its in tech view, just make sure the show obsolete option is checked.

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: sneer on January 10, 2014, 07:58:37 AM

in tech view there are divisions
and there is no division called basic systems
i.e damage control , fuel , engineering

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: SteelChicken on January 10, 2014, 10:52:06 AM

Those can't be turned off, yes that is a feature request I would share.

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: Nathan_ on January 10, 2014, 10:54:12 AM

Click on show obsolete tech on the design tab of the F5 ship design page. go to the obsolete tech you want to unobsolete, and click obsolete again. the switch is a toggle.

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: sneer on January 10, 2014, 02:01:18 PM

for my engineering space it doesn't work ...

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: Nathan_ on January 10, 2014, 02:23:35 PM

I can't reproduce that. Can you atleast add engineering bays to designs from the obsolete components list?

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: sneer on January 10, 2014, 02:28:14 PM

you cant
you can delete engineering section and try to add it back
problem is it  in none of available equipment division in tech view

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: Nathan_ on January 10, 2014, 09:22:28 PM

Okay, I'm going to assume that you are looking at the technology report and not the design tab. Go to the design page where you first obsoleted engineering bays(not the tech view). click the show obsolete checkbox. it should look something like the attached image. are engineering bays visible there? if they are click on them, and click obsolete again. If they are not then something is seriously wrong with your particular version of aurora and you should reinstall it.

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: sneer on January 11, 2014, 03:23:27 AM

have you recreated and solve my problem ?
like obsolete engineering and bringing it back ???
or you give general idea ?

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: Charlie Beeler on January 11, 2014, 08:27:21 AM

Sneer,  unless you have database access there is nothing you can do.  This is one of those little known issues players are supposed to avoid.  As you've found there is no in game mechanic to reverse setting basic tech items from hving been flagged as obsolete.  The flag is at a race level, so it will not affect new games.

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: sneer on January 11, 2014, 08:48:24 AM

I supposed so
but Nathan confued me a bit

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: sloanjh on January 11, 2014, 09:15:55 AM

I would go ahead an log this in the official bugs thread, with a link back to this thread.  Either you shouldn't be able to obsolete basic tech components, or you should be able to un-obsolete them.

John

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: Nathan_ on January 11, 2014, 03:17:01 PM

So just to be clear, you can't reproduce what I'm doing in these 3 screenshots?

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: Starmantle on January 11, 2014, 03:36:24 PM

That's a good visual, Nathan.  I was trying to figure out how to say it all, but you nailed it. 

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: sneer on January 12, 2014, 02:08:13 AM

got it now
thx

Title: Re: obsolete tech
Post by: Nathan_ on January 12, 2014, 01:56:14 PM

Good to hear, I'm somewhat surprised that this is that obscure a feature, perhaps the button could be renamed.