Clearance Group

[NihilRex (OP)]

Ever have your explorers jumped by random aliens you didn't see coming?  Try these moderately low-tech designs!  (Comments much appreciated)

First up is the multi-role leader, the Agincourt class CG.  Nominally, there would be 5 of these in a group.

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Agincourt class Missile Cruiser    35 000 tons     774 Crew     5739.12 BP      TCS 700  TH 2040  EM 0
2914 km/s     Armour 3-95     Shields 0-0     Sensors 110/110/0/0     Damage Control Rating 55     PPV 177.5
Maint Life 2.08 Years     MSP 3537    AFR 653%    IFR 9.1%    1YR 1090    5YR 16350    Max Repair 289 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Spare Berths 0   
Flag Bridge    Magazine 2335   

Titan Magneto-plasma Drive (3)    Power 680    Fuel Use 8.33%    Signature 680    Exp 8%
Fuel Capacity 4 200 000 Litres    Range 259.3 billion km   (1029 days at full power)

Halibut Missile Launcher (10)    Missile Size 5    Rate of Fire 150
Halibut Missile Launcher (Fast) (10)    Missile Size 5    Rate of Fire 30
Buffalo Missile Launcher (4)    Missile Size 50    Rate of Fire 1500
Hoplite Launcher (5)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 30
CounterMissile Fire Control m18 (1)     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1
Missile Fire Control m369 (2)     Range 369.6m km    Resolution 100
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (100)  Speed: 57 600 km/s   End: 6.7m    Range: 23m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 326/195/97
Halibut Anti-ship Missile (287)  Speed: 67 200 km/s   End: 25.4m    Range: 102.4m km   WH: 5    Size: 5    TH: 246/147/73
Buffalo Anti-ship Missile (4)  Speed: 38 400 km/s   End: 59.3m    Range: 136.7m km   WH: 36    Size: 50    TH: 192/115/57
Piranha School (12)  Speed: 19 200 km/s   End: 86.5m    Range: 99.9m km   WH: 1    Size: 50    TH: 108/65/32

Search Sensor m154 (1)     GPS 14000     Range 154.0m km    Resolution 100
Missile Sensor m15 (1)     GPS 140     Range 15.4m km    MCR 1.7m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH10-110 (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  110m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-110 (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  110m km

ECM 10
Next is the Vanguard DDG, 2 per Agincourt.

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Vanguard class Missile Destroyer    25 000 tons     472 Crew     4053.56 BP      TCS 500  TH 2040  EM 0
4080 km/s     Armour 3-76     Shields 0-0     Sensors 110/110/0/0     Damage Control Rating 24     PPV 75
Maint Life 2.99 Years     MSP 3419    AFR 357%    IFR 5%    1YR 573    5YR 8595    Max Repair 289 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 2150   

Titan Magneto-plasma Drive (3)    Power 680    Fuel Use 8.33%    Signature 680    Exp 8%
Fuel Capacity 2 000 000 Litres    Range 172.9 billion km   (490 days at full power)

Hoplite Launcher (25)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 30
Halibut Missile Launcher (25)    Missile Size 5    Rate of Fire 150
Missile Fire Control m369 (1)     Range 369.6m km    Resolution 100
CounterMissile Fire Control m18 (1)     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (650)  Speed: 57 600 km/s   End: 6.7m    Range: 23m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 326/195/97
Halibut Anti-ship Missile (300)  Speed: 67 200 km/s   End: 25.4m    Range: 102.4m km   WH: 5    Size: 5    TH: 246/147/73

Missile Sensor m15 (1)     GPS 140     Range 15.4m km    MCR 1.7m km    Resolution 1
Search Sensor m154 (1)     GPS 14000     Range 154.0m km    Resolution 100
Thermal Sensor TH10-110 (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  110m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-110 (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  110m km
Finally, we have the multirole Invincible FFG, I only got one of these out in time for my necessary clearance, but it looked to be the most useful of the three.

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Invincible class Missile Frigate    15 000 tons     313 Crew     2626.48 BP      TCS 300  TH 1360  EM 0
4533 km/s     Armour 3-54     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 18     PPV 65
Maint Life 3.23 Years     MSP 2875    AFR 225%    IFR 3.1%    1YR 416    5YR 6240    Max Repair 289 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 36 months    Spare Berths 0   
Magazine 608   

Titan Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 680    Fuel Use 8.33%    Signature 680    Exp 8%
Fuel Capacity 1 250 000 Litres    Range 180.1 billion km   (459 days at full power)

Buffalo Missile Launcher (2)    Missile Size 50    Rate of Fire 1500
Halibut Missile Launcher (4)    Missile Size 5    Rate of Fire 150
Hoplite Launcher (10)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control m369 (1)     Range 369.6m km    Resolution 100
CounterMissile Fire Control m18 (1)     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (68)  Speed: 57 600 km/s   End: 6.7m    Range: 23m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 326/195/97
Halibut Anti-ship Missile (28)  Speed: 67 200 km/s   End: 25.4m    Range: 102.4m km   WH: 5    Size: 5    TH: 246/147/73
Buffalo Anti-ship Missile (2)  Speed: 38 400 km/s   End: 59.3m    Range: 136.7m km   WH: 36    Size: 50    TH: 192/115/57
Piranha School (6)  Speed: 19 200 km/s   End: 86.5m    Range: 99.9m km   WH: 1    Size: 50    TH: 108/65/32

Search Sensor m154 (1)     GPS 14000     Range 154.0m km    Resolution 100
Missile Sensor m15 (1)     GPS 140     Range 15.4m km    MCR 1.7m km    Resolution 1

ECCM-1 (2)         Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
These were all designed at Reload Rate 5, and I had full reduced-sized launcher tech, but no box launchers.  Engines for all ships and missiles were MPD.  Warhead strength for the missiles was 5 per MSP, Im not sure about the Agility and Sensor techs at design time.

The Piranha school carries 5 Piranhas, and was intended to help strip armor from larger ships or crit smaller ones, as well as handling large groups of ships, where the arrival times of various waves of missiles sometimes left later missiles without targets.  The Buffaloes were obviously intended as heavy hitters if you found a large target, and would be deployed AFTER a salvo of Piranha schools.

In the shipyards, I have underway two other designs that missed the war, the Hound Class Interceptor, 12 of which would be carried inside the Trafalgar-class carriers.

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Hound class Interceptor    3 750 tons     71 Crew     861.96 BP      TCS 75  TH 240  EM 0
6400 km/s     Armour 2-21     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 5
Maint Life 3.18 Years     MSP 287    AFR 56%    IFR 0.8%    1YR 43    5YR 640    Max Repair 210 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 9 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 40   

Small Magneto-plasma Drive (4)    Power 120    Fuel Use 10.96%    Signature 60    Exp 7%
Fuel Capacity 400 000 Litres    Range 175.2 billion km   (316 days at full power)

Halibut Missile Launcher (2)    Missile Size 5    Rate of Fire 150
Missile Fire Control m369 (1)     Range 369.6m km    Resolution 100
Halibut Anti-ship Missile (8)  Speed: 67 200 km/s   End: 25.4m    Range: 102.4m km   WH: 5    Size: 5    TH: 246/147/73

Search Sensor m154 (1)     GPS 14000     Range 154.0m km    Resolution 100

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Trafalgar class Carrier    156 300 tons     1634 Crew     13193.2 BP      TCS 3126  TH 8000  EM 0
2559 km/s     Armour 8-258     Shields 0-0     Sensors 110/110/0/0     Damage Control Rating 35     PPV 20
Maint Life 2.75 Years     MSP 31846    AFR 5583%    IFR 77.6%    1YR 6066    5YR 90984    Max Repair 210 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 36 months    Flight Crew Berths 791   
Hangar Deck Capacity 45000 tons     Magazine 1536   

Commercial Magneto-plasma Drive (25)    Power 320    Fuel Use 1.26%    Signature 320    Exp 4%
Fuel Capacity 10 250 000 Litres    Range 936.8 billion km   (4236 days at full power)

Hoplite Launcher (40)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 30
CounterMissile Fire Control m18 (2)     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (536)  Speed: 57 600 km/s   End: 6.7m    Range: 23m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 326/195/97
Halibut Anti-ship Missile (210)  Speed: 67 200 km/s   End: 25.4m    Range: 102.4m km   WH: 5    Size: 5    TH: 246/147/73

Missile Sensor m15 (2)     GPS 140     Range 15.4m km    MCR 1.7m km    Resolution 1
Search Sensor m154 (1)     GPS 14000     Range 154.0m km    Resolution 100
Thermal Sensor TH10-110 (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  110m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-110 (1)     Sensitivity 110     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  110m km

ECCM-1 (2)         ECM 10


Any commentary would be appreciated.

[sublight]

My brain keeps freezing up on the difference between "moderately low-tech" and "156 300 tons." The largest millitary ship I've ever built at this tech level was only 15,000 tons! How long does it take to make that kind of expansions?

[NihilRex (OP)]

I had a naval yard on continual expansion for a LONG time... kinda forgot about it... at least 10-20yrs.

Low-Tech does not mean small

[TheDeadlyShoe]

The main trouble i see is that there's no point to the Trafalgar, the Hound isn't a warship design that needs support outside of rearmament that could be done by colliers.

I'd suggest the following:

*Scale up a sensor for mounting on the Trafalgar, something with 300-400mkm+ range (or more) to take advantage of the Hound fire control
*Reduce the active sensor on the Hound to a small backup at best
*Reduce the Hound's deployment time to 0.1 months
*Design a new engine for the Hound that has increased rather than decreased output multipliers

*Figure out a way to increase the Hound's throw weight, ideally by adding on more high-reduction launchers.

[NihilRex (OP)]

The problem I was having with the Hounds was that their MSP\Deployment time was short enough to make getting them to the war problematic.  AFR is an average, not an absolute.

I had to restart my campaign due to some SM stupidity on my part, and in the reboot I only have 2 extrasolar systems colonized, and they are nowhere near the battle lines.  Was hoping the Trafalgar could work as a Fleet Tanker\Collier\Supply ship as well as carrying the Hounds.

Here is my new Arsenal Armed Collier design, and the updated Hounds.  I haven't actually built any Arsenals yet, no yards free large enough.  Im constantly updating the design as I go.  As of now, there are no yards large enough to build a CV Trafalgar either, so I'll take a closer look at that design.

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Hound class Interceptor    3 500 tons     84 Crew     1155.3 BP      TCS 70  TH 800  EM 300
11428 km/s     Armour 1-20     Shields 10-500     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 8
Maint Life 4.31 Years     MSP 413    AFR 49%    IFR 0.7%    1YR 36    5YR 537    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 2 months    Spare Berths 3    
Magazine 205    

Small Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 400    Fuel Use 254.56%    Signature 400    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 835 000 Litres    Range 16.9 billion km   (17 days at full power)
Shields 5/R500 (2)   Total Fuel Cost  50 Litres per hour  (1 200 per day)

Halibut Launcher (2)    Missile Size 5    Rate of Fire 125
Size 5 Box Launcher (4)    Missile Size 5    Hangar Reload 37.5 minutes    MF Reload 6.2 hours
Missile Fire Control M518 (1)     Range 518.4m km    Resolution 100
Halibut Anti-ship Missile (41)  Speed: 56 000 km/s   End: 52.5m    Range: 176.3m km   WH: 6    Size: 5    TH: 280/168/84

Active Search Sensor MR432 (1)     GPS 24000     Range 432.0m km    Resolution 100

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Arsenal class Ammunition Transport    50 250 tons     540 Crew     7156.4 BP      TCS 1005  TH 3000  EM 0
2985 km/s     Armour 1-121     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 42     PPV 26.5
Maint Life 8.18 Years     MSP 13716    AFR 483%    IFR 6.7%    1YR 365    5YR 5468    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Spare Berths 0    
Magazine 2588    
Fuel Harvester: 1 modules producing 60000 litres per annum

Commercial Internal Fusion Drive (6)    Power 500    Fuel Use 4.42%    Signature 500    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 16 655 000 Litres    Range 1349.7 billion km   (5233 days at full power)

Hoplite Launcher (Slow) (3)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 25
Buffalo Missile Launcher (1)    Missile Size 50    Rate of Fire 1250
Missile Fire Control M518 (1)     Range 518.4m km    Resolution 100
CounterMissile Fire Control M51 (1)     Range 51.8m km    Resolution 1
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (1090)  Speed: 52 000 km/s   End: 7.1m    Range: 22.3m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 485/291/145
Halibut Anti-ship Missile (180)  Speed: 56 000 km/s   End: 52.5m    Range: 176.3m km   WH: 6    Size: 5    TH: 280/168/84
Piranha School (10)  Speed: 24 000 km/s   End: 49m    Range: 70.7m km   WH: 3    Size: 50    TH: 80/48/24
Buffalo Anti-ship Missile (2)  Speed: 40 000 km/s   End: 77.1m    Range: 185.2m km   WH: 65    Size: 50    TH: 160/96/48

Active Search Sensor MR432 (1)     GPS 24000     Range 432.0m km    Resolution 100
Missile Search Sensor MR43 (1)     GPS 240     Range 43.2m km    MCR 4.7m km    Resolution 1
EDIT :: Also, the new Piranha schools carry 6 Piranhas, and I reduced the fuel in the Piranha's to make their sensors and agility better. Ive found them  to be pretty awesome against current spoiler targets.