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General Discussion / Re: What's Going On In Your Empire: C# Edition
« Last post by AlStar on Today at 07:18:21 AM »
I've got some systems like that.  :P

If you want to maximize your potential returns, scan the asteroids with the highest gravity - specifically, from what I've seen, asteroids that don't require LG infrastructure tend to be more likely to have minerals, and if they have minerals, they're more likely to have (very) high concentrations.
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General Discussion / Re: What's Going On In Your Empire: C# Edition
« Last post by skoormit on Today at 07:09:24 AM »
It is the start of year 2046.
After 21 years of exploration, we have discovered 16 new systems.
Those systems contain a total of 2375 bodies.
Of those, 2010 are asteroids.
Of those, 1315 are found in just two systems: Abbey and Coamo.

Abbey is two hops from home (only 6.7bkm from the home star to Abbey-A) and contains 563 asteroids.
Unfortunately, those asteroids have very, very large orbits.
The smallest orbit is 2.6bkm.
The median orbit is 35.65bkm.
The largest orbit is 297.9bkm.

To date we have surveyed 320 of these asteroids.
243 asteroids remain, with orbits starting at 22.8bkm.

If travel time between asteroids were instant, we could survey the remaining asteroids, with a single geo sensor, in about 14 months.

However, travel time is not instant.
In the past year, our three dedicated survey ships in Abbey scanned a total of 21 asteroids.

We are calling off the surveying effort, as the potential discoveries do not justify the resource investment.

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Your fleet is enormous; I can only assume that you can tell what the hell everything's doing by the codes that make up their fleet names.

Indeed. Fleet names tell me exactly what each fleet is doing.
My spreadsheet also relies on the fleet naming convention to tally cargo movements.
I posted a bit about it a while back:

1) Naming conventions for fleets and colonies

I use a consistent naming convention for fleets and colonies.
Names of fleets indicate the fleet composition, as well as the location and/or task and/or capacity and/or needs of the fleet.

Example: FT ANT-A3 infra 245/yr Hlr x12 B
Interpretation:
  • FT:   Freighters. (Just the default hull abbreviation.)
  • ANT-A3 infra 245/yr:   Cycling orders to haul infrastructure to colony ANT-A3, with average throughput of 245 per year (varies somewhat by orbital positions of source and target colony).
  • Hlr x12:   Contains 12 ships of the Hauler class.
  • B:   Appending a unique letter per each fleet with the same hull abbreviation makes it easier to quickly find this fleet when a list contains several fleets with similar (or even otherwise identical) names.


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I'm pretty sure that I'd go insane trying to find any given system with the name's you've used (although, again, it looks like you've got some code bytes at the end of some systems that I assume mark points of interest).

The system naming is straightforward.
The first three letters of each system name are unique.
New systems are named by incrementing the third letter from the previous system in the branch.
First system in a new branch gets a new ??A name.
This way, I can use three-letter abbreviations for system names. The abbreviations will be unique, and they will provide (some) information about where the system is.

And yes, some system names are appended with additional information, either via specific symbols or a short phrase.
This helps remind me of certain problems, like a hostile NPR planet lying directly in the path between JPs.
It also helps me set fleet orders for surveyors directly from the list, without needing to always refer back to the map to see which systems still need geo and/or grav survey work.

Also, by the time you get to this point in a game, your own mental model of the map is very robust. You don't exactly have it memorized, but you know the important places, the major routes, the new and interesting discoveries, etc.
Looking at it cold is far more difficult, since you have no mental model to rely on.


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I'll hold to my position that your galaxy map is a total eyesore, though.

No argument here, but I hold to my position that any map of this 246-system galaxy is going to be an eyesore, no matter how the systems are arranged. There are just too many very long loops for a 2d representation to handle well.
I would love to see an arrangement that proves me wrong.

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Very neat getting a look at how someone else plays this spreadsheet of a game.

 ;D
Whenever I pick up a new game, my kids know I haven't seriously gotten into it until the second monitor contains a spreadsheet.
With Aurora, the second and third monitors contain spreadsheets.
The main one has a couple dozen tabs.
Eleven of those are just to hold the source data from the database (for the other tabs to refer to).
I have almost as much fun developing the spreadsheet as I do playing the game.



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General Discussion / Re: What's Going On In Your Empire: C# Edition
« Last post by vorpal+5 on Today at 05:15:20 AM »


Attention all personnel! Attention all personnel!
The exo is again advising the use of the VR booths for all adults' entertainment. Only movies and 3D scenes without extreme motions are allowed in this area.


(sorry poor humor, I'm tired!)
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C# Bug Reports / Re: v2.5.1 Bugs Thread
« Last post by vorpal+5 on Today at 02:58:10 AM »
On a new session (luckily for me, as I reverted to the previous save) I fiddled with old security formations on Mars, by showing all elements, and grouping 4 formations into a single one. The end result somehow was that I had the remaining formation with a 25k HQ leading another 25k HQ, which seems not very legit to me. But oh well ... Then it went worse.

I closed the window and reopened it, and Mars was only showing the header, and nothing else, although clicking on Mars showed all elements there, but without any formation.

I did not save as it was feeling very buggy. So my question is probably, do people encounter these organizational bugs in land units or not? This was the first time I did some reorg, and bam a bug, so I guess it's not ultra-rare?
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C# Bug Reports / Re: v2.5.1 Bugs Thread
« Last post by nuclearslurpee on Yesterday at 09:45:18 PM »
Hello, I was using a somewhat old version of Aurora 4x, and having a fine game, until I decided to create another Race during my playthrough.  I started getting errors every time I tried to change the time, so I had to uninstall and reinstall the game, with the latest patch.

Unfortunately, every time I open up the game, every time I uninstall and reinstall it, I get the error messages: "2. 5. 1 Function #141: Column "Eldar" does not belong to table Record Set", and then

"2. 5. 1 Function #139: Object Reference not set to an instance of an object"
Im allowed to open the game, but every time I click something that second error pops up, including to when I try starting a new game, which gives two errors
"2. 5. 1 Function #1709: Object Reference, etc"
and
"2. 5. 1 Function #1697: Object Reference not set to an instance of an object"

No matter how many times I uninstall, and reinstall, ive been getting the same errors ever since I created that new race in that old save (which is now gone).  I am confused and would like to ask for help on this.

Thank you

This sounds like a mismatch between the executable version and the database version, which is probably due to a bad install. I recommend trying a fresh install in a different location, following the installation instructions very, very closely.

For reference, that means to install the full 1.13 distribution, then the 2.5.0 distribution, then the 2.5.1 distribution in that order, following the instructions in each linked thread.
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C# Bug Reports / Re: v2.5.1 Bugs Thread
« Last post by areyoufrustrated? on Yesterday at 07:57:14 PM »
Hello, I was using a somewhat old version of Aurora 4x, and having a fine game, until I decided to create another Race during my playthrough.  I started getting errors every time I tried to change the time, so I had to uninstall and reinstall the game, with the latest patch.

Unfortunately, every time I open up the game, every time I uninstall and reinstall it, I get the error messages: "2. 5. 1 Function #141: Column "Eldar" does not belong to table Record Set", and then

"2. 5. 1 Function #139: Object Reference not set to an instance of an object"
Im allowed to open the game, but every time I click something that second error pops up, including to when I try starting a new game, which gives two errors
"2. 5. 1 Function #1709: Object Reference, etc"
and
"2. 5. 1 Function #1697: Object Reference not set to an instance of an object"

No matter how many times I uninstall, and reinstall, ive been getting the same errors ever since I created that new race in that old save (which is now gone).  I am confused and would like to ask for help on this.

Thank you
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C# Bug Reports / Re: v2.5.1 Bugs Thread
« Last post by Kurt on Yesterday at 06:15:26 PM »
I have discovered a bug, I think.  I went through the bug posts for 2.51 and couldn't find anything like it, but who knows?

To start I am using a fresh install of 2.51.  No mods or anything unusual. 

I started a single-player race campaign with limited starting tech featuring a humanity that had been conquered and oppressed by aliens for quite a while, before they mysteriously left just as the human resistance was close to defeating their human proxy troops. The humans get their act together and begin exploring the solar system, looking for the aliens, and expanding and building a fleet in case they find them.  I pushed this campaign about twelve years down the road, from 2400 to 2412, before stopping because I was considering starting a different campaign with multiple player races. 

I created the second game in the same database and played around with it for a bit, but never got much beyond the start phase, mostly due to a crippling Fallout 4 addiction, as my son helped me mod the base game and add a lot of new content. 

Either before I created the second campaign or just after I noticed Steve's campaign that comes with the database and I deleted it. 

After the Fallout 4 addition abated a bit I felt the need to get back to Aurora, so I opened up the game and decided to go back to my single-race game, as it was farther along and better developed.  However, the dates are now screwed up.  As noted above, the campaign started at 2400, and went out to March of 2412 before I quit.  My log document verifies this.  When I opened up the campaign, the dates in the Events window are in August 2068.  I checked the image I had made of the starting conditions and that verifies that the campaign started on the year 2400 as well. 

I don't know where this date came from.  The other campaign I created, with multiple player races, started in the year 1, so it doesn't seem to be cross contamination from that. 

I don't know how this happened, and the campaign is essentially unusable because the dates don't match my log document (potential campaign write-up). 

Kurt   
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General Discussion / Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Last post by AlStar on Yesterday at 04:34:51 PM »
DB Attached.
Note: this is game version 1.13. Probably will not work with the current executable.
Ooh, a March 2021 vintage - good choice! (For reasons unknown, I never got around to deleting any of the old install files - I've got all the way back to aurora110).

Wow. You've definitely gone with a totally different way of organizing your stuff than I do. Your fleet is enormous; I can only assume that you can tell what the hell everything's doing by the codes that make up their fleet names.

I'm pretty sure that I'd go insane trying to find any given system with the name's you've used (although, again, it looks like you've got some code bytes at the end of some systems that I assume mark points of interest).

I'll hold to my position that your galaxy map is a total eyesore, though.

Very neat getting a look at how someone else plays this spreadsheet of a game.
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General Discussion / Re: Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread: C# Edition
« Last post by skoormit on Yesterday at 12:04:32 PM »
...I noticed that this situations are most common in non Real System starts or if you mess around local systems connections.

The settings for this game were 75% local, 30 spread, which is now my standard game setup.
It gives plenty of interesting loops, and relatively few short/boring loops.
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