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No firing
« on: January 09, 2011, 02:44:48 AM »
These ship has been attacking invaders like hell, but they wont fire there missiles... Did I do something wrong in design?
Enemy ships have been from 6000-26000 tons, not a missile have been fired...

Hunt class Fast Attack Craft    1000 tons     47 Crew     364.5 BP      TCS 20  TH 38.4  EM 0
16000 km/s     Armour 5-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control 1     PPV 9
Annual Failure Rate: 24%    IFR: 0.3%    Maintenance Capacity 57 MSP
Magazine 60  

GB Inertial Confinement Fusion Drive E30 (1)    Power 320    Fuel Use 300%    Armour 0    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 6.0 billion km   (4 days at full power)

Size 6 Box Launcher (10)    Missile Size 6    Hangar Reload 45 minutes    MF Reload 7.5 hours
Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 (1)     Range 201.6m km    Resolution 100
ASM "Peasent" (10)  Speed: 80,000 km/s   End: 40m    Range: 192m km   WH: 10    Size: 6    TH: 320 / 192 / 96

ECM 30


There is a scout ship with each group...

Log file
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 021 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 022 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 023 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 024 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 027 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 028 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 020 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 025 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:21,GJ 1002,Hunt 029 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,859k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 029 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 020 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 028 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 027 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 026 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 025 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 024 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 023 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 022 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Hunt 021 - Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Size 24 Box Launcher (x2) reloading.  10800 seconds until next missile launch.
8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Tribal 009 - Missile Fire Control FC90-R20 targeting Xanthe Terra 005 at 8,816k km
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 02:50:04 AM by ExChairman »
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Re: No firing
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 03:33:06 AM »
First, this should probably have been posted into the Academy forum.

Now that this is out of the way, some questions just to make sure.

1) The scout ships do have their sensors active?
2) Your FACs are ordered to open fire?
3) You assigned the launchers to the firecons?
4) You assigned the missiles to the launchers?

Oh, forget 1), you wouldn´t be able to target them without active sensor coverage.
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Re: No firing
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 06:13:36 AM »
1. Yep
2,3 & 4
Missile Fire Control FC201-R100 #1:   Targeting Xanthe Terra 005 - Weapons Firing
Assigned Missiles/Buoys without Shipboard Fire Control Is this the problem?
Size 6 Box Launcher #1 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #2 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #3 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #4 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #5 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #6 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #7 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #8 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #9 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)
Size 6 Box Launcher #10 - ASM "Peasent" (Ready To Fire)

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Re: No firing
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2011, 06:16:17 AM »
oh yes
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Re: No firing
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 06:22:46 AM »
But I got Missile Fire Control.... ???
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Re: No firing
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 06:28:21 AM »
but have you assigned the launchers to a f/c?   Aurora does not assign by default.
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Re: No firing
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 06:34:50 AM »
Yes, all missile launchers to Fire control 1, assigned contact to Fire Control 1 & assigned missile Peasent to all launchers...
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Re: No firing
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2011, 07:01:49 AM »
Just to make this totally clear: The "Weapon and Fire Control Assignment Summary" window on the Battle Control Window (F8) looks something like this:

Clypeum Raketenleitsystem 8,6/1 #1 (2v1 PD Mode 2):   No Target Assignment-----------------------Firecon, in your case, showing Xanthe Terra 005 as target
Sagitta ARR-1 Raum-Raum Raketenwerfer #1 - Cludo IV Anti-Raketen Rakete (Ready To Fire)-----
Sagitta ARR-1 Raum-Raum Raketenwerfer #2 - Cludo IV Anti-Raketen Rakete (Ready To Fire)----- All missile launchers directly below,
Sagitta ARR-1 Raum-Raum Raketenwerfer #3 - Cludo IV Anti-Raketen Rakete (Ready To Fire)----- which shows they are assigned to that FC
Sagitta ARR-1 Raum-Raum Raketenwerfer #4 - Cludo IV Anti-Raketen Rakete (Ready To Fire)----- and the missiles assigned to those lauchers directely behind
Sagitta ARR-1 Raum-Raum Raketenwerfer #5 - Cludo IV Anti-Raketen Rakete (Ready To Fire)-----

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Re: No firing
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 08:22:09 AM »
How can you even stand invader fire for so long?
 

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Re: No firing
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 11:55:19 AM »
Did you notice the line

8th June 2034 02:32:26,GJ 1002,Size 24 Box Launcher (x2) reloading.  10800 seconds until next missile launch.

in your original post?  This looks like you've already fired a salvo, and the box launchers won't be reloaded for another 3 hours.  OTOH, the sizes look wrong.  Could this be related.

John

PS - On Hawkeye's observation that this (and your previous one about civilian mining stations, actually) belong in The Academy, moderators can move them there if you want.  Please post here or PM me if you want them moved....
 

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Re: No firing
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 01:12:11 PM »
The Size 24 missile is on a second type of  FAC, those fired as they should..

Tribal class Fast Attack Craft    1,000 tons     44 Crew     356.3 BP      TCS 20  TH 38.4  EM 0
16000 km/s     Armour 6-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 7.2
Annual Failure Rate: 32%    IFR: 0.4%    Maint Capacity 56 MSP    Max Repair 200 MSP    Est Time: 0.87 Years
Magazine 48    

GB Inertial Confinement Fusion Drive E30 (1)    Power 320    Fuel Use 300%    Signature 38.4    Armour 0    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range 30.0 billion km   (21 days at full power)

Size 24 Box Launcher (2)    Missile Size 24    Hangar Reload 180 minutes    MF Reload 30 hours
Missile Fire Control FC90-R20 (1)     Range 90.2m km    Resolution 20
ASM "Paladin" (2)  Speed: 80,000 km/s   End: 20.8m    Range: 100m km   WH: 50    Size: 24    TH: 453 / 272 / 136

Active Search Sensor MR67-R100 (1)     GPS 2800     Range 67.2m km    Resolution 100

Thaught it might have something to to with the Tribal, so I detached it, still no missiles away  :(

About the Invaders, I thinks they are survey ships or they have very short ranged plasma torps... No fire at mee yet ;D
And please transfer to Academy. ;)
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Re: No firing
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2011, 01:16:45 AM »
Moved to The Academy.
 

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Re: No firing
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2011, 01:18:09 AM »
Hmmm - all I can think of is to post a screen-shot of the fire-control screen, in case someone notices something missing....

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Re: No firing
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2011, 07:46:51 AM »
ExChairman are you still having an issue with missile launch?  In reply #2 you appear to not have any launchers assigned to the fire control while the FC does have an assigned target. 

To help illilstrate using 1 of my CLE's (data from F8 combat assignments overview screen / weapon and fire control assignment summary)

2 missile FC's and 1 beam FC, 10 size 1 missile launchers and 2 meson cannons.

With no weapons assigned to FC's but FC's do have PD assignments:

Code: [Select]
Missile Fire Control FC3-R1 #1 (5v1 PD Mode 260):   No Target Assignment

Missile Fire Control FC3-R1 #2 (5v1 PD Mode 260):   No Target Assignment

Fire Control S01 32-4000 #1 (Point Blank PD Mode 1):   No Target Assignment


Assigned Missiles/Buoys without Shipboard Fire Control
Size 1 Missile Launcher #1 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #2 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #3 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #4 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #5 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #6 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #7 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #8 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #9 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #10 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)


Active Sensors Off

With 5 launchers assigned to each missile FC and both meson cannons assigned to the beam FC.

Code: [Select]
Missile Fire Control FC3-R1 #1 (5v1 PD Mode 260):   No Target Assignment
Size 1 Missile Launcher #1 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #2 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #3 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #4 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #5 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)

Missile Fire Control FC3-R1 #2 (5v1 PD Mode 260):   No Target Assignment
Size 1 Missile Launcher #6 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #7 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #8 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #9 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)
Size 1 Missile Launcher #10 - CM-1-4 (Ready To Fire)

Fire Control S01 32-4000 #1 (Point Blank PD Mode 1):   No Target Assignment
R15/C4 Meson Cannon #1 (Ready To Fire)
R15/C4 Meson Cannon #2 (Ready To Fire)



Active Sensors Off
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Re: No firing
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2011, 01:22:47 PM »
Yes!! Problem was that I had Synchronous Fire an all ships... :-[ So no one could Fire, waiting for the others... :(
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