Post by: Steve Walmsley on February 23, 2010, 10:26:16 AM
It is very simple to use. You simply designate a system as being in a Space-Time Bubble by clicking a checkbox. Because of the powerful nature of the Space-Time Bubble this box will uncheck if you change systems or close the map. While a system is in the Space-Time Bubble, everything else in the universe will freeze in place and the only activity in the universe will take place in the Bubble. Elsewhere, ships will remain in place, so will missiles and mass driver packets and system bodies, etc. No detection will take place and no fuel will be used. The universe is reduced to the single system in the bubble. Time still passes in the universe as a whole but no one is aware of it. The time that passes does not count against fuel use, or reactor endurance, or even the 5-day increment clock. Contacts won't be lost outside the bubble because no one is checking to see if they are lost. No 5-day increment can happen while a bubble is in effect. When a 5-day increment it does happen, any time that passed while a bubble is active will not count toward production time. All transit orders will fail if a fleet tries to leave the bubble.
Obviously this should be used with extreme care. The intended situation for which you should use the bubble is when the game is running slow for some reason and you are fighting a battle with tiny increments. The amount of time for the battle isn't going to matter in the great scheme of things so isolating that system from the rest of the universe while you quickly resolve the immediate action should have minimal impact.
If you do encounter any strange bugs after using this function, please, please mention you used it when reporting the bug.
Steve
Post by: welchbloke on February 24, 2010, 06:31:33 AM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
My current campaign is running slow at the moment, primarily because the Sol system has well over two hundred ships all being detected by five different races. Also because there is a huge number of civilian ships in the game, including NPRs, and because a lot of them have nothing to do, they are being checked for possible trade runs and contracts every increment. Most of the time this isn't really a problem but at the moment I am fighting a battle and even a 5 second increment is taking 10-20 seconds. Therefore I have introduced a very powerful but easily abused SM tool for the next version (currently v5.02) - the Space-Time Bubble!Wow, now that is some seriously impressive quantum mechanical manipulation!
It is very simple to use. You simply designate a system as being in a Space-Time Bubble by clicking a checkbox. Because of the powerful nature of the Space-Time Bubble this box will uncheck if you change systems or close the map. While a system is in the Space-Time Bubble, everything else in the universe will freeze in place and the only activity in the universe will take place in the Bubble. Elsewhere, ships will remain in place, so will missiles and mass driver packets and system bodies, etc. No detection will take place and no fuel will be used. The universe is reduced to the single system in the bubble. Time still passes in the universe as a whole but no one is aware of it. The time that passes does not count against fuel use, or reactor endurance, or even the 5-day increment clock. Contacts won't be lost outside the bubble because no one is checking to see if they are lost. No 5-day increment can happen while a bubble is in effect. When a 5-day increment it does happen, any time that passed while a bubble is active will not count toward production time. All transit orders will fail if a fleet tries to leave the bubble.
Obviously this should be used with extreme care. The intended situation for which you should use the bubble is when the game is running slow for some reason and you are fighting a battle with tiny increments. The amount of time for the battle isn't going to matter in the great scheme of things so isolating that system from the rest of the universe while you quickly resolve the immediate action should have minimal impact.
If you do encounter any strange bugs after using this function, please, please mention you used it when reporting the bug.
Steve
Post by: Beersatron on February 24, 2010, 09:21:20 AM
"In the middle of my back-swing!?"
Post by: Shinanygnz on February 24, 2010, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: "Beersatron"
That is my all time favourite Staragate Epsiode :D
Mine too. I might have to go and watch it again now. Win!
Stephen
Post by: sloanjh on February 24, 2010, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: "Shinanygnz"
Quote from: "Beersatron"That is my all time favourite Staragate Epsiode :D
Mine too. I might have to go and watch it again now. Win!
Especially the part where he looks at his watch, turns in his retirement papers, then ....
John
Post by: ShadoCat on February 24, 2010, 05:54:34 PM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
My current campaign is running slow at the moment, primarily because the Sol system has well over two hundred ships all being detected by five different races. Also because there is a huge number of civilian ships in the game, including NPRs, and because a lot of them have nothing to do, they are being checked for possible trade runs and contracts every increment. Most of the time this isn't really a problem but at the moment I am fighting a battle and even a 5 second increment is taking 10-20 seconds. Therefore I have introduced a very powerful but easily abused SM tool for the next version (currently v5.02) - the Space-Time Bubble!
It is very simple to use. You simply designate a system as being in a Space-Time Bubble by clicking a checkbox. Because of the powerful nature of the Space-Time Bubble this box will uncheck if you change systems or close the map. While a system is in the Space-Time Bubble, everything else in the universe will freeze in place and the only activity in the universe will take place in the Bubble. Elsewhere, ships will remain in place, so will missiles and mass driver packets and system bodies, etc. No detection will take place and no fuel will be used. The universe is reduced to the single system in the bubble. Time still passes in the universe as a whole but no one is aware of it. The time that passes does not count against fuel use, or reactor endurance, or even the 5-day increment clock. Contacts won't be lost outside the bubble because no one is checking to see if they are lost. No 5-day increment can happen while a bubble is in effect. When a 5-day increment it does happen, any time that passed while a bubble is active will not count toward production time. All transit orders will fail if a fleet tries to leave the bubble.
Obviously this should be used with extreme care. The intended situation for which you should use the bubble is when the game is running slow for some reason and you are fighting a battle with tiny increments. The amount of time for the battle isn't going to matter in the great scheme of things so isolating that system from the rest of the universe while you quickly resolve the immediate action should have minimal impact.
If you do encounter any strange bugs after using this function, please, please mention you used it when reporting the bug.
Steve
Just a thought but you could make the time bubble effect somewhat automatic.
If you designate a combat pulse that is shorter than the normal time increment, then it only checks the current system (and combat events) at each combat pulse. It only checks for other stuff if the combat runs over a normal time increment.
Thus, things like civilian activities don't need to be checked every 5 seconds, they can be checked every normal time pulse. No organization can make decisions that fast anyway.
The main issue will be deciding which activities need to be checked during combat.
Post by: waresky on February 25, 2010, 05:46:28 AM
:mrgreen:
Post by: Steve Walmsley on February 25, 2010, 05:59:04 AM
Quote from: "ShadoCat"
Just a thought but you could make the time bubble effect somewhat automatic.I like this idea in principle, although I might have to give some serious thought to how to implement it. I don't think it can be as simple as combat related because I would have to load everything and check it to find out if combat was going to happen. Once everything is loaded I may as well run the increment. I also don't want some things moving in a system but not others.
If you designate a combat pulse that is shorter than the normal time increment, then it only checks the current system (and combat events) at each combat pulse. It only checks for other stuff if the combat runs over a normal time increment.
Thus, things like civilian activities don't need to be checked every 5 seconds, they can be checked every normal time pulse. No organization can make decisions that fast anyway.
The main issue will be deciding which activities need to be checked during combat.
However, the point about civilian activities is a very good one. One simple option might be no checks for trade runs if the increment unless the increment is above a certain size, say an hour. I'll implement this right away. Another time saver would be no default order checks (for civ colonization, etc) for short increments but that is tricker because I will often set a survey ship default order then increment time by 5 seconds, so I don't think this woud work. Idea! Perhaps I only check civilian and NPR fleets for default orders if the increment is greater than 1 hour but player race default orders get checked on every increment. That would save some time.
Steve
Post by: Steve Walmsley on February 25, 2010, 06:00:54 AM
Quote from: "Beersatron"
That is my all time favourite Staragate EpsiodeAlso my favourite episode!
"In the middle of my back-swing!?"
Anyone watched Stargate Universe? I don't know about anyone else but all I keep thinking is "What did they cancel a great series like Atlantis for this dreadful attempt to emulate Battlestar Galactica?" It doesn't even feel like Stargate.
Steve
Post by: boggo2300 on February 25, 2010, 03:41:04 PM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
Am I alone hoping that all the characters remain stuck out there, because they're all bastards?? (except for the one played by a certain Scottish Guy, I like him)Quote from: "Beersatron"That is my all time favourite Staragate EpsiodeAlso my favourite episode!
"In the middle of my back-swing!?"
Anyone watched Stargate Universe? I don't know about anyone else but all I keep thinking is "What did they cancel a great series like Atlantis for this dreadful attempt to emulate Battlestar Galactica?" It doesn't even feel like Stargate.
Steve
Matt
Post by: welchbloke on March 01, 2010, 08:59:22 AM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
I agree, not my favourite SF series by a long chalk. It appears to have been picked up for a second season though. The season break before Christmas really killed any enthusiasm I might have had for SG:U.Quote from: "Beersatron"That is my all time favourite Staragate EpsiodeAlso my favourite episode!
"In the middle of my back-swing!?"
Anyone watched Stargate Universe? I don't know about anyone else but all I keep thinking is "What did they cancel a great series like Atlantis for this dreadful attempt to emulate Battlestar Galactica?" It doesn't even feel like Stargate.
Steve
Post by: Shadow on March 12, 2010, 04:46:11 PM
Post by: Steve Walmsley on March 18, 2010, 06:12:07 AM
Quote from: "Shadow"
So, did this feature make it into 5.02? Can't find it there.It is well hidden at the bottom of the Contacts tab. I put it there temporarily when I added it and forgot to move it someone more obvious
Steve
Post by: Shadow on March 18, 2010, 07:09:29 AM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
Quote from: "Shadow"So, did this feature make it into 5.02? Can't find it there.It is well hidden at the bottom of the Contacts tab. I put it there temporarily when I added it and forgot to move it someone more obvious :cry:
Post by: Steve Walmsley on March 18, 2010, 07:19:28 AM
Quote from: "Shadow"
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"Quote from: "Shadow"So, did this feature make it into 5.02? Can't find it there.It is well hidden at the bottom of the Contacts tab. I put it there temporarily when I added it and forgot to move it someone more obvious :cry: :) My son and I are getting my Paladin and his Warrior to 80. Pal is 79.5 at the moment :)
Steve
Post by: UnLimiTeD on March 18, 2010, 07:43:38 AM
Post by: Erik L on March 18, 2010, 08:19:29 AM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
Distracted at the moment by WoW :). I also mess around with trade skills. Blacksmithing 428, Mining 450, Cooking 431 so far. It's a cheesy game but a lot of fun ;)
Post by: Another on March 18, 2010, 08:58:17 AM
Post by: Shadow on March 18, 2010, 12:06:47 PM
Contacts tab on the System Map, right? Bottom? There's nothing under Show Tac Intelligence.
Post by: Steve Walmsley on March 18, 2010, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: "Shadow"
Uhhh, hold on. Still can't find it.That's odd. You definitely have version 5.02?
Contacts tab on the System Map, right? Bottom? There's nothing under Show Tac Intelligence.
Steve
Post by: Journier on March 18, 2010, 12:57:50 PM
I turn it on but then none of my construction in system continues.
Post by: Shadow on March 18, 2010, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
I do. But I started my current game on 5.01. Might be related to this issue.Quote from: "Shadow"Uhhh, hold on. Still can't find it.That's odd. You definitely have version 5.02?
Contacts tab on the System Map, right? Bottom? There's nothing under Show Tac Intelligence.
Steve
Post by: Steve Walmsley on March 18, 2010, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: "Journier"
my space time bubble doesnt seem to work right.From my original post in this thread:
I turn it on but then none of my construction in system continues.
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
No 5-day increment can happen while a bubble is in effect. When a 5-day increment it does happen, any time that passed while a bubble is active will not count toward production time. All transit orders will fail if a fleet tries to leave the bubble.With no 5-day increment, there can be no production. This bubble is intended for use during battles that last minutes or hours, not for days or weeks. If construction were allowed, you would be able to build a fleet while everyone else in the universe was frozen in place
Steve
Post by: Steve Walmsley on March 18, 2010, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: "Shadow"
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"I do. But I started my current game on 5.01. Might be related to this issue.Quote from: "Shadow"Uhhh, hold on. Still can't find it.That's odd. You definitely have version 5.02?
Contacts tab on the System Map, right? Bottom? There's nothing under Show Tac Intelligence.
Steve
No, you should still be able to see it. I assume it must be there as other players have commented on the effects of the bubble. Open the F12 window and see if there is an Assign MS button on the Naval Organization tab (it should be on the second row of buttons on the right-hand side of the tab), This is just to confirm you have the v5.02 additions.
Steve
Post by: Shadow on March 18, 2010, 02:16:17 PM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
No, you should still be able to see it. I assume it must be there as other players have commented on the effects of the bubble. Open the F12 window and see if there is an Assign MS button on the Naval Organization tab (it should be on the second row of buttons on the right-hand side of the tab), This is just to confirm you have the v5.02 additions.Yeah, that's there. Care to post a screenshot of wherever the time bubble button's supposed to be?
Steve
Post by: Steve Walmsley on March 18, 2010, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: "Shadow"
Here is a screenshotQuote from: "Steve Walmsley"No, you should still be able to see it. I assume it must be there as other players have commented on the effects of the bubble. Open the F12 window and see if there is an Assign MS button on the Naval Organization tab (it should be on the second row of buttons on the right-hand side of the tab), This is just to confirm you have the v5.02 additions.Yeah, that's there. Care to post a screenshot of wherever the time bubble button's supposed to be?
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Steve
Post by: Shadow on March 18, 2010, 04:13:11 PM
Thanks for the screenshot, anyway.
Post by: UnLimiTeD on March 19, 2010, 03:14:27 PM
^^