Military Training for begginers

[Xkill (OP)]

Hey guys, I'm back. After months of wait I finally got my new computer, and I've been thinking of something that can train the minds of new people to Aurora on the 'Combat Topic'.

It's very simple; Make two different empires, give them tech, design some ships, make fleets, then pit the two against each other. (They have to be Human Controlled thought)

I'm trying to test this teory right now. They have maximum tech since I'm too lazy to manually put it all together.

I made two empires, the Combat Race 1 and Combat Race 2, (Hum, very original eh?) Comrace 1 is on Earth and Comrace 2 on Mars I made three ship designs (2 For Comrace 1 and 1 for Comrace 2. I'll put the designs on the end of the post.)

Comrace 1 is mostly focused on Lasers and Shields, (Even thought I designed no shields yet) and Comrace 2 is focused on Plasma Carronades. I made everything so simple both because I'm lazy and because its more simple to make, Missiles are way too complex for a test this young thought I plan on making something more complex soon. It's kinda a must anyway.

The ship designs for Comrace 1:

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Messo class Frigate    2.450 tons     364 Crew     5150,5 BP      TCS 49  TH 1000  EM 0
20408 km/s     Armour 4-16     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 24
Maint Life 7,49 Years     MSP 2628    AFR 24%    IFR 0,3%    1YR 82    5YR 1235    Max Repair 1969 MSP

Photonic Drive E1 (M) (2)    Power 500    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 500    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100.000 Litres    Range 734,7 billion km   (416 days at full power)

20cm C3 Far Gamma Ray Laser (4)    Range 1.050.000km     TS: 25000 km/s     Power 10-3     RM 12    ROF 20        10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10
Fire Control S03 525-25000 (2)    Max Range: 1.050.000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Note: Frigate, main brawler, nothing special.


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Sesoss class Command Ship    5.050 tons     606 Crew     7646 BP      TCS 101  TH 2500  EM 0
24752 km/s     Armour 2-26     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 46,26
Maint Life 1,44 Years     MSP 946    AFR 204%    IFR 2,8%    1YR 503    5YR 7538    Max Repair 1312 MSP

Photonic Drive E1 (M) (5)    Power 500    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 500    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 200.000 Litres    Range 712,9 billion km   (333 days at full power)

Twin 10cm C3 Far Gamma Ray Laser (PD) Turret (6x2)    Range 350.000km     TS: 75000 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 12    ROF 5        3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Fire Control S02 175-50000 (PD) (2)    Max Range: 350.000 km   TS: 50000 km/s     97 94 91 89 86 83 80 77 74 71
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR4792-R140 (1)     GPS 75600     Range 4.792,0m km    Resolution 140
Active Search Sensor MR1207-R20 (1)     GPS 7200     Range 1.207,5m km    Resolution 20
Active Search Sensor MR270-R1 (1)     GPS 360     Range 270,0m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor MR661-R6 (1)     GPS 2160     Range 661,4m km    Resolution 6
Active Search Sensor MR7636-R200 (1)     GPS 144000     Range 7.636,8m km    Resolution 200
Active Search Sensor MR2414-R80 (1)     GPS 28800     Range 2.415,0m km    Resolution 80

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Note: The Sensor ship. Obviously they aren't going to the main fight, and are only needed to get the other ships to... well... fight.



Now for the Comrace 2:

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Gomalol  class Destroyer    8.700 tons     1360 Crew     11230,5 BP      TCS 174  TH 2500  EM 0
14367 km/s     Armour 10-37     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 108
Maint Life 0,42 Years     MSP 807    AFR 605%    IFR 8,4%    1YR 1919    5YR 28790    Max Repair 1477 MSP

Photonic Drive E1 (M) (5)    Power 500    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 500    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 300.000 Litres    Range 620,7 billion km   (500 days at full power)

40cm C25 Plasma Carronade (9)    Range 400.000km     TS: 25000 km/s     Power 40-25     RM 1    ROF 10        40 20 13 10 8 6 5 5 4 4
Fire Control S01,5 262,5-25000 H50 (3)    Max Range: 525.000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     98 96 94 92 90 89 87 85 83 81
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 (6)     Total Power Output 240    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR4050-R100 (1)     GPS 54000     Range 4.050,0m km    Resolution 100
Active Search Sensor MR330-R6 (1)     GPS 1080     Range 330,7m km    Resolution 6
Active Search Sensor MR2863-R50 (1)     GPS 27000     Range 2.863,8m km    Resolution 50
Active Search Sensor MR135-R1 (1)     GPS 180     Range 135,0m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Note: The Comrace 2 main brawler, atleast for now. Looking for simplicity I made these ships to carry theyr own sensors and they are generally more powerful than the Comrace 1 ships.


Tell me what you guys think.

[Xkill (OP)]

Well, I tested this first battle. And I learned three things: that distance and armor are VERY important things, that Plasma Carronades are total overkill and why everyone always say that Beam Weapons put you on some very vulnerable ground. It may come obvious to everyone that Comrace 1 lost. Badly.

The Gomagols took more time to charge their guns, (Mostly because I forgot to assign the weapons to all of the ships even thought I assigned to one of them.) and in that time the Messos inflicted some damage to the Gomagols. But when the Gomagols got their guns back up... oh man.

No Gomagols were destroyed but the 6 Messos were. The entire battle probably took around 30-40 seconds of Gametime. The armor of the Gomagols took around 15 seconds of continuous laser fire and, everything got absorbed. but after that they started to take damage, then secondary explosions ensued and Gomagol 001 got detached from the main fleet. Then just as the other 3 Gomagols locked on their targets, BOOM! The 6 guys got blasted.

Atleast now I know that I should put more armor on my next ships, and distance myself from anyone that comes too near.

[Elouda]

What you say is true; however, if the ships from Comrace 1 manage to keep Comrace 2's ships at around 700-800,000km, they can pick them apart and remain out of reach due to their faster speed and longer range weapons.

My general impression is that plasma carronades need to be mounted on a ship that is faster than its oponents, or else they loose their usefulness except in warp point defence.

[Vanigo]

What you say is true; however, if the ships from Comrace 1 manage to keep Comrace 2's ships at around 700-800,000km, they can pick them apart and remain out of reach due to their faster speed and longer range weapons.

My general impression is that plasma carronades need to be mounted on a ship that is faster than its oponents, or else they loose their usefulness except in warp point defence.

This is true of beam weapons in general, really.

[Steve Walmsley]

Tactical games will probably teach that missiles are generally superior to beams. For campaigns, that isn't always the case because of the logistical constraints on missiles.

Steve