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Trento Class Light Cruiser - 16 for 1 against the AI so far
undercovergeek:
She was originally designed to patrol Alpha Centauri and keep down unrest but some unruly neighbours took out my destroyers and killed 20 million miners by destroying Ark habitats above Venus (undefended, i know, i know)
But having been dispatched to Sol to help out theyve taken down 16 7500 Zanzibar class baddies and some 750 tonne weird ones that dont seem to fire much - apart from some weirdness not firing missiles until very very late and only 3 of the 4 beams firing shes doing alright - the one was lost because she got to Venus first on her own amongst the 16
Enemy so far is only using energy weapons so i hoped to take advantage of the huge range difference
Trento class Light Cruiser 21,693 tons 485 Crew 3,959.2 BP TCS 434 TH 2,880 EM 0
6638 km/s Armour 5-69 Shields 0-0 HTK 98 Sensors 0/0/0/0 DCR 2-0 PPV 99
Maint Life 0.06 Years MSP 228 AFR 1882% IFR 26.1% 1YR 3,936 5YR 59,037 Max Repair 607.2 MSP
Magazine 791 / 0
Commander Control Rating 1 BRG
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months Morale Check Required
Macrinus Aeromarine Magneto-plasma Drive EP960.00 (3) Power 2880 Fuel Use 82.67% Signature 960 Explosion 15%
Fuel Capacity 5,000,000 Litres Range 50.2 billion km (87 days at full power)
Pertinax Armaments Particle Beam-3 (4) Range 100,000km TS: 6,638 km/s Power 7-1 ROF 35
Grizmund & Ardias Beam Fire Control R128-TS2000 (1) Max Range: 128,000 km TS: 2,000 km/s ECCM-0 46 42 38 34 30 27 23 19 15 11
Agna-Verus Marine Stellarator Fusion Reactor R202 (2) Total Power Output 404.8 Exp 5%
Damiel Precision Arms Size 10 Missile Launcher (50.0% Reduction) (15) Missile Size: 10 Rate of Fire 255
Saphrax Sensor Systems Missile Fire Control FC21-R120 (1) Range 21.1m km Resolution 120
Salvin Armaments Sidewinder Anti-ship Missile (79) Speed: 33,769 km/s End: 23.1m Range: 46.9m km WH: 10 Size: 9.95 TH: 112/67/33
Vitellus-Baelanos Warning & Control Active Search Sensor AS44-R120 (1) GPS 3840 Range 44.5m km Resolution 120
and the missile
Missile Size: 9.95 MSP (24.875 Tons) Warhead: 10 Radiation Damage: 10
Speed: 33,769 km/s Fuel: 7,500 Flight Time: 23 minutes Range: 46.89m km
ATG: 25% Retarget Capable
Cost Per Missile: 11.65 Development Cost: 539
Chance to Hit: 1k km/s 422.1% 3k km/s 140.7% 5k km/s 84.4% 10k km/s 42.2%
ive read about the 3:1 ratio for fuel but i dont understand what parameters i should be looking at for 3 and for 1 - this seems a bit fuel heavy to me
Andrew:
You seem to have fairly advanced technology but then have Capacitor 1 particle beams. Giving you a tremendously slow rate of fire. If you want decent beam weapons get your capacitor tech up.
undercovergeek:
Thank you - the beams were an afterthought because the ships were pretty much useless after the missiles ran out and if they were chased home they had no plan b
I know there will be other enemies but for now this one has no missile tech so I hadn’t concentrated on an energy alternative - I hadn’t drawn the link between capacitor and fire rate - that’s next round of research then
Ulzgoroth:
The beam fire control with a tracking speed of 'dead snail' is also going to be a problem if you ever try to use those weapons against anything but a hulk, planet, or space station.
The missiles seem to have more range than they can use with more than double the MFC range. Might be worth trading fuel for engine and/or increasing boost?
Not necessarily combat-relevant, but I have a dread of flying around without a fine-resolution sensor. Your ship should have a lot of difficulty detecting those 750 ton targets, I think, or anything smaller like missiles, since they're 1/8th the size the sensor is made for. And you have no on-board passives to even partially cover the gap. This can, of course, be covered by a separate ship instead of adding hardware to the one you have. (And for system defense, shipboard passives might be redundant to a strong colony sensor setup.)
--- Quote from: undercovergeek on March 06, 2024, 09:15:55 AM ---ive read about the 3:1 ratio for fuel but i dont understand what parameters i should be looking at for 3 and for 1 - this seems a bit fuel heavy to me
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Size: 3 ton engine to 1 ton fuel.
It assumes you can and will use engine boost if needed to get your range to the range you want. Also, the originator tends to note that having more engine is defensible - doing so makes your ship not as high performance as it could be for its size, but reduces fuel usage. Having more fuel than the ratio calls for, OTOH, is wasteful compared to using reduced-power engines. (Unless you're a tanker planning to treat that fuel as payload, presumably.)
Also that ratio might not be correct for missiles in the upper boost range? I'm not sure, the fuel economy formula is different (when boost is above your boost tech) and I didn't see a treatment (or attempt my own).
Droll:
What is with the reactor set up? You only need 4 power to fully power all your beam weapons (more if you upgrade the capacitors like already suggested) but you've got reactors that are putting out 404.8 (!) power.
I would downsize that, not just because it saves space but because it also makes any potential secondary reactor explosions less devastating as well.
Also, and I realise this was designed as a patrol ship, but even then your maintenance life is awful, this thing will constantly experience failures the moment it leaves port. Add some engineering, it'll also help with damage control for when you get hit. It's also worth noting that your deployment time is very close to your ships fuel endurance. Usually I like to have the deployment noticeably higher so that the ship can actually afford to hold position at it's destination if need be, though you might also choose to reduce the range to save space, though with some breathing room if this is going to be patrolling around.
The missiles firing very late doesn't surprise me, they've got 40+ million km of range but their FC can only lock targets at 21 million km. For those 750 ton baddies it's even worse since the FC has a resolution of 120 HS - 120 HS x 50 tons = 6000 tons. Things that are smaller than the resolution of your sensor will be detected at exponentially closer ranges than the stated distance. That is why your missiles were only firing at very close range. I like to add a res 1 active sensor to every warship for this reason, as that allows them to deal with fighter/FAC sized craft like those 750 ton "weird ones". I realise this has already been pointed out but I hope the extra context helps.
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