Update on Progress

[SultanPepper]

Any chance all forum users can get a mass email celebrating the release when it happens? In case I forget to check the forums that day haha.

[Erik L]

Any chance all forum users can get a mass email celebrating the release when it happens? In case I forget to check the forums that day haha.

Are you trying to break my mail server?

[Tikigod]

Any chance all forum users can get a mass email celebrating the release when it happens? In case I forget to check the forums that day haha.

Are you trying to break my mail server?

Well we already know the first sign that C# is released will be that the forums are down.

[QuakeIV]

A mass email plus torrent link might be the best way to get things distributed reasonably efficiently given the fairly good point that the forums might get taken out by the feeding frenzy.

[SultanPepper]

Any chance all forum users can get a mass email celebrating the release when it happens? In case I forget to check the forums that day haha.

Are you trying to break my mail server?

IT'S FOR A GOOD CAUSE!! Haha

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Quick performance update. About 2.5 years into my latest test campaign. Five races in Sol and all five are active in Alpha Centauri as well. In VB6, this has such an impact on turn times that there is an option to turn off sensor checks in a system. The 1-day increments (which including 48 separate detection phases) are running in about 2.2 seconds.

[Frick]

Quick performance update. About 2.5 years into my latest test campaign. Five races in Sol and all five are active in Alpha Centauri as well. In VB6, this has such an impact on turn times that there is an option to turn off sensor checks in a system. The 1-day increments (which including 48 separate detection phases) are running in about 2.2 seconds.

Some questions: About how long would that increment take in VB6? How normal is that load? Is there a difference to performance when races operate in the same system or different systems?

[Garfunkel]

It's not the NPRs themselves that cause slowdowns in VB6, it's the constant detection between all ships and the more NPRs you have, the more ships you have flying around in same systems, needing to do detection checks.

So 2.2 seconds for 6 races that all have ships in 2 systems is really, really, really good time.

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Quick performance update. About 2.5 years into my latest test campaign. Five races in Sol and all five are active in Alpha Centauri as well. In VB6, this has such an impact on turn times that there is an option to turn off sensor checks in a system. The 1-day increments (which including 48 separate detection phases) are running in about 2.2 seconds.

Some questions: About how long would that increment take in VB6? How normal is that load? Is there a difference to performance when races operate in the same system or different systems?

No idea, because I haven't run this same game and situation in VB6. However, it would be considerably longer. In VB6 games with several races in Sol, I usually turn off sensor checks in busy systems unless there is conflict.

The performance is hit for multiple races is exponential because of the sensor checks. If you assume all races are the same size and have similar number of ships then two races just check each other (2 checks). Three races is 6 checks (each race checking two others). Five races is 20 checks, so my current campaign has ten times more sensor checks than a normal game.

[Frick]

Ahh, hadn't thought about the sensor thing. Thanks!

[QuakeIV]

Is that time with or without disabling the sensors?  If 2.2 is with sensors disabled, whats it like without?

[Frick]

Is that time with or without disabling the sensors?  If 2.2 is with sensors disabled, whats it like without?

He specified the sensor checks, so I assume they are enabled.

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Is that time with or without disabling the sensors?  If 2.2 is with sensors disabled, whats it like without?

2.2 seconds is with sensors on.

[Shuul]

I remember I had a game in VB with 3 different NPRs ships in one system, around 20 systems discovered by me, bot only that one with NPRs in there.
It took around 3-5 minute for a 5-day pulse.

[Ultimoos]

I've been playing recently and I noticed that civilian ships contribute severely in worsening game performance. 
Is this still an issue in new version? Or is impact considerably smaller?