Aurora 4x

VB6 Aurora => VB6 Mechanics => Topic started by: gamemonger56 on December 01, 2016, 04:43:13 PM

Title: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: gamemonger56 on December 01, 2016, 04:43:13 PM

is it possible?
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: Kytuzian on December 01, 2016, 07:02:38 PM
No.
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: linkxsc on December 01, 2016, 07:11:10 PM
Effectively, all missiles after being fired that dont find a target, auto self destruct. (Something real missiles do mind you)
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: alex_brunius on December 02, 2016, 02:13:29 AM
Effectively, all missiles after being fired that dont find a target, auto self destruct. (Something real missiles do mind you)

Indeed. If your enemy could get their hands on an unexploded missile it would be worth alot to them, and allow them to figure out exactly how to defeat it. This would be even more of a risk in space then here on Earth where the missile would probably crash quite violently and be in a pretty bad shape even if it didn't properly explode.
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: linkxsc on December 02, 2016, 06:02:59 PM
Indeed. If your enemy could get their hands on an unexploded missile it would be worth alot to them, and allow them to figure out exactly how to defeat it. This would be even more of a risk in space then here on Earth where the missile would probably crash quite violently and be in a pretty bad shape even if it didn't properly explode.

Tru story. US took a long time to deploy proximity fused anti aircraft rounds to ships, as they were sfraid some might get captured, or one might not go off and be imbedded in an aircraft that RTBed.

Actually happened with the sidewinder missile. One got stuck in a mig 15 i think. Pilot flew it back to base landed. Missile got shipped to Russia, reverse engineered it, and deployed a near perfect replica as their realy heat seeking a2a missile.
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: GodEmperor on December 03, 2016, 07:58:25 AM
Indeed. If your enemy could get their hands on an unexploded missile it would be worth alot to them, and allow them to figure out exactly how to defeat it. This would be even more of a risk in space then here on Earth where the missile would probably crash quite violently and be in a pretty bad shape even if it didn't properly explode.

In Aurora ( and space warfare in general ) context its not reverse engineering per se but more that once fuel runs out, you have virtually undetectable fast moving live warhead that will slam into something eventually. Seeing how even small battle in Aurora end up with dozens of missiles "wasted" its a really good security precaution to have them self destruct ;>

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Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: alex_brunius on December 09, 2016, 09:07:39 AM
In Aurora ( and space warfare in general ) context its not reverse engineering per se but more that once fuel runs out, you have virtually undetectable fast moving live warhead that will slam into something eventually.

I thought aurora ships (and missiles) would just stop moving when they ran out of fuel instead of following the newtonian laws of physics? That's why we call it Trans-Newtonian, no?
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: TCD on December 09, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
I thought aurora ships (and missiles) would just stop moving when they ran out of fuel instead of following the newtonian laws of physics? That's why we call it Trans-Newtonian, no?
I think you're right as well. But I guess they'd still move under gravity at least? So not exactly fast-moving in Auroran terms, but still with an unpleasant chance of being caught up in a planetary gravity well.
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: 83athom on December 09, 2016, 04:20:13 PM
They do completely stop when they run out of fuel. They self destruct because they are useless without fuel. You can't recover them as the fuel storage are built within the missiles, and getting to the tank would mean taking the missiles apart. Some nasty things could happen when you take one apart. I think the "fluff" here is similar to which the UNSC can't really take apart slipspace drives, because they could go critical and some strange things occur (including people vanishing from existence when playing around with one).
Title: Re: Recovering Fired (and unexploded) missiles.
Post by: MarcAFK on December 10, 2016, 12:33:07 AM
I'm more inclined to believe they self destruct at end of range to prevent falling into enemy hands, or leaving dangerous unexploded ordnance in potentially future friendly space.