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New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: undercovergeek on March 05, 2024, 05:32:31 PM

Title: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: undercovergeek on March 05, 2024, 05:32:31 PM

I’m having a border dispute with some baddies and in the past have been able to target the ships as they enter the sensor range - about 18m km

This last batch of baddies under the same classification managed to close to 250k km before my sensors would let me target them and then I fell within their energy weapon range

Is this new ability to close the distance untargetted likely to be a fancy new system they have - stealth or jammers - and is there a way to counter this

Title: Re: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: AlStar on March 05, 2024, 08:48:15 PM

Silly question, but you've got your active sensors up and running? I can't think of anything else that would reduce your targeting range by 99.98%

Title: Re: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: undercovergeek on March 05, 2024, 10:03:09 PM

yep range perimeter is up

after salvaging a wreck thye have sensor jammers and cloaking - is this going to be it?

Title: Re: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: AlStar on March 05, 2024, 10:49:00 PM

What resolution are your active sensors/missile fire control set for? I suppose if you were running sensors with a resolution of, say, 25,000 tons (the maximum), and their cloaking made them significantly smaller than they actually are (plus the disruption of jammers, if you don't have ECCM), I could potentially see your target resolution range suffering... although I'd still question how 18m sensors failed to lock on until 250k.

Title: Re: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: undercovergeek on March 05, 2024, 11:50:15 PM

I have resolution 120 which is 6k tons?

I see now a few of their new ships are 750 tons

Title: Re: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: Steve Walmsley on March 06, 2024, 03:44:42 AM

Quote from: undercovergeek on March 05, 2024, 11:50:15 PM

I have resolution 120 which is 6k tons?

I see now a few of their new ships are 750 tons

If your sensors are 18m range with resolution 120, you will detect a 750 ton target (resolution 15) at: 

(15/120) * (15/120) * 18m km = 281,250 km

Title: Re: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: undercovergeek on March 06, 2024, 07:15:35 AM

That would be about right

Would having 7500 ton ships mixed in with the 750 ones affect the sensors adversely

Title: Re: Unable to target enemy despite being in range
Post by: Andrew on March 06, 2024, 08:13:20 AM

You will detect the 7500 ton ships at the normal active detection range and then the smaller ships on actives as they get closer and reach their detection threshold. You may well see all contacts sooner if they are also being tracked by passive sensors, you just won't get active sensort detction giving you tonnage and fire control solutuins until they reach the active sensor threshold