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Title: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 21, 2012, 05:50:00 PM
Edit:
I've done almost all of the lists of names I want to do.  Does anyone have any suggestions for more lists?
I ask that suggestions be kept to real-world navies, where there are distinct names (not lists of numbers, e.g. U-boats) and the data is reasonably available.  Modern navies are preferred, but I might go back past the 1880s on request.  I will compile lists of specific types of names that have been used for ships, even if not all of the names of a given type have been used.  US counties (LST names) is an example of this.

I'm going to start making new ship name lists, and I'll post them here as I do so.  To use, download and add them as directed by Aurora.
The first is US Destroyer Escorts/Frigates (DEs).
The second is Modern US Amphibious Warfare Vessels (Post-WWII).
The third is US Navy Transports (including AK-, T-AK-, AP-, T-AP-, APA-, and AKA- types).
The last one is various US Navy Auxiliaries (Ammunition ships, tankers, tugs, etc.)  Type is designated in the file itself.  (I don't want to add a huge number of different files, so I combine types when it makes sense to do so.  If you desire to have the separately, breaking them out should be easy. Sadly, Aurora scrambles some of the list on import.  Steve, is there a way to fix that?)
See next post for more names (due to forum restrictions).
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 21, 2012, 05:50:23 PM
Here are a revised list of US Destroyers, and US Missile Ships.
The destroyer list contains all vessels that were classified as DD-xxx or DL-xx as built.  This remedied the absence of the Spruance class and the Norfolk and Mitscher class DLs.  
The missile ship list includes anything designated DDG-xxx, DLG-xxx, or CG-xx as built.  This includes the Burkes (list was out of date), various DLGs, and Long Beach.
Added on the 23rd:
I've made a list of RN battleships and battlecrusiers, per-dreadnought to Vanguard.
I've also added a list of famous US ships and battles.  These names were originally assigned to carriers, and now are split between the missile cruisers and the big amphibs.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 21, 2012, 05:50:40 PM
Even more name sets!
The first is a list of most of the cities that gave their names to US warships, including patrol vessels.  I've ordered it as Cruisers, Submarines, Amphibs, Patrol Craft, LCS, though Aurora will scramble it some.  Any one with duplicates will only be in the highest category.
The second is a list of the "41 for Freedom" Submarines, which can be thought of as "Great Americans".  I use quotes because several weren't Americans, and Will Rogers hardly qualifies as great (in the way we normally talk of Great Americans.)
The third file is a composite list of all names in the destroyer series.  This includes regular DDs, DDGs, DLGs, DEs, and FFGs.  Basically, anything named after a naval hero.  When you load this one, it will throw errors.  I'm not quite sure why, but it says that syntax operators are missing.  This does load all the names, as confirmed by the DB.
Added on the 26th:
I worked up a list of all RN fleet carriers, either built or ordered.
On the 3rd:
I revised the lists of USN heroes (adding Nimitz, who fits with the theme) and the 41 for Freedom list (adding the presidents who've gotten carriers).  
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Marski on October 23, 2012, 10:38:36 AM
Would be nice to see some USSR or Russian Federation naming as well
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 23, 2012, 11:57:27 AM
Would be nice to see some USSR or Russian Federation naming as well
I'll look into that.  The problem is that my method works better on certain types of lists.  The Wikipedia list of US Destroyers was far easier to clean up than the one for cruisers.  Russian lists are either difficult or nonexistant.

I found a relatively decent source, and have added a list of the post-war Russian destroyers named after virtues.
I've also added a list of post-war cruisers (including the Kirov-class).
Some renamings and such might not be taken into account.
On the 26th:
I've updated the Destroyers file, adding in the Kirivak-class frigates (which had virtue names).
On the 2nd:
I've added all of the DDs back through about WWII, including the ones named after Admirals.
I also added a list of Russians Battleships.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 27, 2012, 12:57:27 PM
I've worked up three sets of RN destroyer names.  The first, labeled as RNDestroyers, is all of the destroyer names through the Daring-class of 1949, excluding the River, Hunt, and Tribal classes (the Tribals are already in, and the Rivers will be listed separately, as will the newer, themed destroyers).
The second, RNClassicDDs, goes from Ambuscade (beginning of interwar standards) through Daring, excluding any themed classes (Tribal, Hunt, Weapon, etc).  This is a more manageable list (the total list runs to 704 names, this one to 234).  
The third list is the various Hunt-classes.  This is one class of destroyers and two of minesweepers, all named on the same scheme.
The last list is just a list of the 88 constellations.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 27, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
More names from the RN.
First, various bodies of water (Rivers, Locs, and Bays).
Second, cruisers of all types.
Third, Flower-class names.
Added on the 2nd:
Added a list of RN ships named after towns.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Marski on October 31, 2012, 09:52:50 AM
I'll look into that.  The problem is that my method works better on certain types of lists.  The Wikipedia list of US Destroyers was far easier to clean up than the one for cruisers.  Russian lists are either difficult or nonexistant.

I found a relatively decent source, and have added a list of the post-war Russian destroyers named after virtues.
I've also added a list of post-war cruisers (including the Kirov-class).
Some renamings and such might not be taken into account.
On the 26th:
I've updated the Destroyers file, adding in the Kirivak-class frigates (which had virtue names).

Many thanks, the current "USSR" naming type for ships is consists nothing more than literal russian names that go from A to Z. These files will come in handy.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 02, 2012, 07:29:04 PM
I've put together lists of Japanese battleships, carriers, cruisers, and destroyers.  There is some overlap, particularly because the Japanese have named lots of postwar destroyers after WWII ships.  Also, none of the merchant ship (Maru) carriers were added to the list.

The French, German, and Italian navies will get a similar treatment at some point.  Past that, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.  Suggestions?
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 03, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
I've done the basic ships for the French navy.  Only three lists this time, battleships, cruisers, and destroyers.  I folded carriers in with battleships because there weren't enough to make a separate list.  
The cruiser and destroyer files will throw errors when you load them, but they actually load just fine.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Icecoon on November 03, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
And exactly how should I install these files? I did not found any instructions. I suppose these files are meant to be installed somewhere and when I want to design a ship they'll show up on the DAC/Rank/Info tab. Or should I just open the txt and pick a name of my liking?   :)
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 03, 2012, 03:36:16 PM
And exactly how should I install these files? I did not found any instructions. I suppose these files are meant to be installed somewhere and when I want to design a ship they'll show up on the DAC/Rank/Info tab. Or should I just open the txt and pick a name of my liking?   :)
Drop the file you want in the Aurora instal directory, name it ShipNames.  When you open up a game, under the tab labeled Game, there is an option to "Add Ship Names".  (This is on the menu that opens up when you first select the game you want.)  Select it, and follow the instruction.  You can of course open up the .txt and type in a name if you so choose.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Icecoon on November 04, 2012, 03:15:48 AM
Oh, thanks. And keep up the good work.  ;)
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 04, 2012, 02:48:33 PM
I'm going to start making new ship name lists, and I'll post them here as I do so.  To use, download and add them as directed by Aurora.
The first is US Destroyer Escorts/Frigates (DEs).
The second is Modern US Amphibious Warfare Vessels (Post-WWII).
The third is US Navy Transports (including AK-, T-AK-, AP-, T-AP-, APA-, and AKA- types).
The last one is various US Navy Auxiliaries (Ammunition ships, tankers, tugs, etc.)  Type is designated in the file itself.  (I don't want to add a huge number of different files, so I combine types when it makes sense to do so.  If you desire to have the separately, breaking them out should be easy. Sadly, Aurora scrambles some of the list on import.  Steve, is there a way to fix that?)
See next post for more names (due to forum restrictions).

I've added all these. Try to avoid names with apostrophes as the import routine will strip them out. SQL doesn't deal very well with apostophes.

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 04, 2012, 02:53:41 PM
Here are a revised list of US Destroyers, and US Missile Ships.
The destroyer list contains all vessels that were classified as DD-xxx or DL-xx as built.  This remedied the absence of the Spruance class and the Norfolk and Mitscher class DLs.  
The missile ship list includes anything designated DDG-xxx, DLG-xxx, or CG-xx as built.  This includes the Burkes (list was out of date), various DLGs, and Long Beach.
Added on the 23rd:
I've made a list of RN battleships and battlecrusiers, per-dreadnought to Vanguard.
I've also added a list of famous US ships and battles.  These names were originally assigned to carriers, and now are split between the missile cruisers and the big amphibs.


All added.

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 04, 2012, 02:57:37 PM
Even more name sets!
The first is a list of most of the cities that gave their names to US warships, including patrol vessels.  I've ordered it as Cruisers, Submarines, Amphibs, Patrol Craft, LCS, though Aurora will scramble it some.  Any one with duplicates will only be in the highest category.
The second is a list of the "41 for Freedom" Submarines, which can be thought of as "Great Americans".  I use quotes because several weren't Americans, and Will Rogers hardly qualifies as great (in the way we normally talk of Great Americans.)
The third file is a composite list of all names in the destroyer series.  This includes regular DDs, DDGs, DLGs, DEs, and FFGs.  Basically, anything named after a naval hero.  When you load this one, it will throw errors.  I'm not quite sure why, but it says that syntax operators are missing.  This does load all the names, as confirmed by the DB.
Added on the 26th:
I worked up a list of all RN fleet carriers, either built or ordered.
On the 3rd:
I revised the lists of USN heroes (adding Nimitz, who fits with the theme) and the 41 for Freedom list (adding the presidents who've gotten carriers).  

All added. Please avoid putting several lists in the same file. Otherwise you risk having the titles as names if I don't spot them.

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 04, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
I'll look into that.  The problem is that my method works better on certain types of lists.  The Wikipedia list of US Destroyers was far easier to clean up than the one for cruisers.  Russian lists are either difficult or nonexistant.

I found a relatively decent source, and have added a list of the post-war Russian destroyers named after virtues.
I've also added a list of post-war cruisers (including the Kirov-class).
Some renamings and such might not be taken into account.
On the 26th:
I've updated the Destroyers file, adding in the Kirivak-class frigates (which had virtue names).
On the 2nd:
I've added all of the DDs back through about WWII, including the ones named after Admirals.
I also added a list of Russians Battleships.

All Added.

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 04, 2012, 03:06:18 PM
More names from the RN.
First, various bodies of water (Rivers, Locs, and Bays).
Second, cruisers of all types.
Third, Flower-class names.
Added on the 2nd:
Added a list of RN ships named after towns.

Added the files from this and the previous RN-related post.

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 04, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
I've done the basic ships for the French navy.  Only three lists this time, battleships, cruisers, and destroyers.  I folded carriers in with battleships because there weren't enough to make a separate list.  
The cruiser and destroyer files will throw errors when you load them, but they actually load just fine.

French and Japanese names added - thanks for all the work on these!

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 04, 2012, 04:03:29 PM
All added. Please avoid putting several lists in the same file. Otherwise you risk having the titles as names if I don't spot them.

Steve
Will do so in the future.  I was trying to avoid list bloat, particularly given the four file per post limit.

I've added all these. Try to avoid names with apostrophes as the import routine will strip them out. SQL doesn't deal very well with apostophes.

Steve
That would explain some of the errors.  Most of them are traceable to dashes, but the names usually load just fine.  Sometimes they don't, though.  Still not sure why.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 04, 2012, 04:16:20 PM
I've gotten the names for German Battleships, Cruisers, Destroyers, and FACs ready.  The destroyer (and frigate/corvette/sloop) names are all post-War (and thus often overlap with the battleship names) because traditionally (WWI and WWII) the Germans did not give their destroyers names. They were given numbers instead.  I've also added German FACs, primarily to get a good set of non-overlapping names for smaller vessels.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 04, 2012, 05:10:52 PM
I've gotten the names for German Battleships, Cruisers, Destroyers, and FACs ready.  The destroyer (and frigate/corvette/sloop) names are all post-War (and thus often overlap with the battleship names) because traditionally (WWI and WWII) the Germans did not give their destroyers names. They were given numbers instead.  I've also added German FACs, primarily to get a good set of non-overlapping names for smaller vessels.

All added for v6.2

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 04, 2012, 05:14:03 PM
And the last batch of the current plan is ready for 6.2.  Italian Battleships, Cruisers, and Destroyers.  I didn't get the post-war Frigates, but there are still enough names to be very useful.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 10, 2012, 03:34:26 PM
I've made three new lists: British post-war frigates/destroyers, British Submarines, and US Counties (LSTs were named after counties).
Another new list is various British tankers (RFA ships).
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 10, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
A list of various RN replenishment ships.  
Also, a list of US minesweeper names.  These do not include various destroyer conversions, which kept their original names.  These names break down into two types, bird names and virtue names.  These names were used interchangeably between types, although classes usually stuck with one or the other.
The last two lists are US surveillance ships (AGR and T-AGOS types) and US research and survey ships (T-AGOR and AGS types).
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 10, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
I've worked up a list of RN survey ships.  Also, as a note, I've revised the list of Hunt-class destroyers to include the various Hunt-class minesweepers as well.  It's posted where the original Hunt list was, simply to save space.
I've added lists of various RN minesweepers.  The general (miscellaneous) list and the lists for the Ton and Ham classes.  Those two are broken out because they are both distinct and have large numbers of names.

At this point, I'm running out of ideas.  Requests, anyone?  (See the first post for standards for requests.)
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 11, 2012, 03:56:33 PM
More ships, this time civilian ones.  I've got naming lists for Liberty Ships, Victory Ships, Empire Ships, and T2 tankers.
Also, I added a French submarine list, which is posted with the other French ships for space reasons.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 15, 2012, 12:29:17 AM
Three more lists.  First, the various Liberty ships transferred to Britain, which were given names starting with Sam.
Second, RN and RFA Amphibs.
Third, a partial list of Russian research and survey vessels.

Also, an updated list of Russian cruisers has been posted.  This covers all cruisers going back to the Imperial Russian Navy.  It replaces the old Russian Cruiser list on the previous page.

On November 24th:
Added a partial list of RN trawlers from WWII.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 24, 2012, 12:20:14 AM
I've worked up four lists of Royal Canadian Navy vessels.
First, cruisers and carriers. This list is small (11 names) and they were combined for that reason.
Secondly, destroyers, including the Halifax-class frigate.
Thirdly, patrol vessels, including WWII frigates, corvettes, and other assorted patrol vessels.
Fourth, minesweepers.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 24, 2012, 05:01:30 AM
And the last batch of the current plan is ready for 6.2.  Italian Battleships, Cruisers, and Destroyers.  I didn't get the post-war Frigates, but there are still enough names to be very useful.

Added for v6.2

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 24, 2012, 05:03:45 AM
I've made three new lists: British post-war frigates/destroyers, British Submarines, and US Counties (LSTs were named after counties).
Another new list is various British tankers (RFA ships).

Added for v6.2

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 24, 2012, 05:06:46 AM
A list of various RN replenishment ships.  
Also, a list of US minesweeper names.  These do not include various destroyer conversions, which kept their original names.  These names break down into two types, bird names and virtue names.  These names were used interchangeably between types, although classes usually stuck with one or the other.
The last two lists are US surveillance ships (AGR and T-AGOS types) and US research and survey ships (T-AGOR and AGS types).

Added for v6.2

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 24, 2012, 05:11:32 AM
More ships, this time civilian ones.  I've got naming lists for Liberty Ships, Victory Ships, Empire Ships, and T2 tankers.
Also, I added a French submarine list, which is posted with the other French ships for space reasons.

Added all these and from the post above it.

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 24, 2012, 05:16:03 AM
I've worked up four lists of Royal Canadian Navy vessels.
First, cruisers and carriers. This list is small (11 names) and they were combined for that reason.
Secondly, destroyers, including the Halifax-class frigate.
Thirdly, patrol vessels, including WWII frigates, corvettes, and other assorted patrol vessels.
Fourth, minesweepers.

Added these and the lists from the previous post

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 24, 2012, 10:52:37 AM
And now, the Royal Australian Navy:
Cruisers (also including carriers for numbers reasons)
Destroyers (and modern frigates)
Escorts (including minesweepers)
Amphibious ships
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 24, 2012, 10:56:05 AM
And now, the Royal Australian Navy:
Cruisers (also including carriers for numbers reasons)
Destroyers (and modern frigates)
Escorts (including minesweepers)
Amphibious ships

Added for v6.2

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 24, 2012, 10:57:06 AM
And two more.  RCN and RAN submarines.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Steve Walmsley on November 24, 2012, 11:02:43 AM
And two more.  RCN and RAN submarines.

Added for v6.2

Steve
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 03, 2013, 11:06:29 AM
I've recently made a few new lists, and found a problem with one of the old ones.  Due to insufficient cleanup, the Victory-class list had indents after most of the names, which I've removed.  I also attached a list of the various C1, C2, C3 and C4 cargo ships of WW2.  The last two lists are of US Army and US Air Force Bases, primarily intended for PDC use.  RAF bases are in the next post.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on October 03, 2013, 11:07:12 AM
RAF bases attached.  I may do more of this type in the future, but finding names is tricky.
Edited:
I've added a partial list of US Army transport ships.  (At one point during WWII, the Army controlled more tonnage than the Navy).  That list may well be added to.  Also, a very incomplete list of American forts, which won't be added to because it's 550 names.  Also, a list of various British coastal fortifications.  It started as a list of the batteries of Gibraltar, and is named thus, but it also contains various permutations on 'fort'.  It's been cleaned up a bit, and the names standardized to make sense in Aurora.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: TheDeadlyShoe on October 03, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Ahh cool, can always use PDC names.

Here's a recent one:

Prime numbers between 1000 and 9999, randomized.  I planned to use it for a machine race, but I found the 3 factions i'm already running more than enough of a headache. 

Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on November 13, 2013, 09:13:07 AM
One more, this one a list of numbers between 1 and 1000, intended for cases where you want to number ships of a type sequentially.  The list is currently formatted as XXX-###, with the intent that you'll do a find and replace on the XXX, then import it.  Steve, don't add this one to the database.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Darksan on November 25, 2013, 07:59:52 AM
I have been involved in Killer Bee Software's release of Empire Deluxe Internet Edition [EDIE] and am now involved in the upcoming Mobile Edition [EDME].  In EDIE you can replace City, Ship and Leader names.  Here is my leader name file.

You will find names like Berk, Chadwick, Dalgliesh, Dunnigan, Gygax and Zocchi.

[hxxp: killerbeesoftware. com/]
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on January 22, 2014, 01:46:10 PM
I've returned to this, and worked on the two largest navies currently unlisted, China and India. 
This post contains the files I've made for China.  There may be errors, as I still have no clue how the PLAN names its ships.  However, for those of us who aren't Chinese, these should help. 
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on January 22, 2014, 01:48:03 PM
And now for India.  Nothing special to report.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on January 22, 2014, 01:48:33 PM
And one last file for India.
Also, three files for Korea, as labeled.  Other contains amphibs, mine warfare, and other auxiliaries. 
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on January 27, 2014, 11:46:19 AM
I've decided to move to doing one file per navy at this point, both to ensure lists of reasonable length and to cut down on the amount of work required.  Here are lists for Brazil and Spain.
However, when I went to do Turkey, I found the data more or less pre-sorted, so I did two, one containing combatants (I know it says surface combatants, but due to the amount of overlap, submarines were also included) and the other one other vessels.
Also, I'm still taking requests if anyone wants a specific navy done.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: TheDeadlyShoe on February 27, 2014, 01:44:41 PM
Cheers, the navy lists are helpful :D
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Rich.h on October 07, 2015, 05:01:13 PM
I'm currently using Star Trek Federation style naming for my ships and the classes, every time I design a new class I chuck it into a name file with as many canon/non canon instances I can find. Currently the classes included are.

Akira
Apollo
Constitution
Defiant
Hermes
Monach
Nova
Steamrunner

Anytime I add to this list I will put update the zip for anyone who wants it. I have got all these ships with the USS prefix simply because in my current game I tend to only name the class & ship of military ships, thus it makes things easy when looking down a list.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: Garfunkel on December 06, 2015, 08:38:25 PM
I wonder if Steve could be convinced to add all these of in the next version of Aurora by default.
Title: Re: Ship Name Sets
Post by: bean on February 17, 2016, 10:42:41 AM
I wonder if Steve could be convinced to add all these of in the next version of Aurora by default.
Most of the ones I did are included.  I'm not sure if the ones from 2013 and later got added in.