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Posted by: boggo2300
« on: November 19, 2019, 02:57:00 PM »

Sorry.  Aurora Mass Drivers can't move 'rock'.  The trans-newtonian physics they operate on can only hurl TN elements.  You'll have to bombard your enemy with expensive minerals, not free dirt.

why?

'Cause them's the rules.

Presumably because it was considered unbalancing to allow cheap dirt.

That's not the reason they only do TN-Minerals
Posted by: Tikigod
« on: November 19, 2019, 11:49:54 AM »

Sorry.  Aurora Mass Drivers can't move 'rock'.  The trans-newtonian physics they operate on can only hurl TN elements.  You'll have to bombard your enemy with expensive minerals, not free dirt.

And if you have a human meatbag encased in a single occupant sized TN element composed space coffin?

Given the number of tons of TNE in a mass driver packet, the human (or other species) meatbag is a rounding error.

Mass driver packet sizes when launching minerals have nothing to do with anything in this scenario.
Posted by: Father Tim
« on: November 18, 2019, 09:50:02 PM »

Sorry.  Aurora Mass Drivers can't move 'rock'.  The trans-newtonian physics they operate on can only hurl TN elements.  You'll have to bombard your enemy with expensive minerals, not free dirt.

And if you have a human meatbag encased in a single occupant sized TN element composed space coffin?

Given the number of tons of TNE in a mass driver packet, the human (or other species) meatbag is a rounding error.
Posted by: Father Tim
« on: November 18, 2019, 09:46:45 PM »

Sorry.  Aurora Mass Drivers can't move 'rock'.  The trans-newtonian physics they operate on can only hurl TN elements.  You'll have to bombard your enemy with expensive minerals, not free dirt.

why?

'Cause them's the rules.

Presumably because it was considered unbalancing to allow cheap dirt.
Posted by: Tikigod
« on: November 18, 2019, 08:06:57 PM »

Sorry.  Aurora Mass Drivers can't move 'rock'.  The trans-newtonian physics they operate on can only hurl TN elements.  You'll have to bombard your enemy with expensive minerals, not free dirt.

And if you have a human meatbag encased in a single occupant sized TN element composed space coffin?
Posted by: boggo2300
« on: November 18, 2019, 03:00:51 PM »

Sorry.  Aurora Mass Drivers can't move 'rock'.  The trans-newtonian physics they operate on can only hurl TN elements.  You'll have to bombard your enemy with expensive minerals, not free dirt.

why?
Posted by: Bughunter
« on: November 18, 2019, 07:49:43 AM »

Good point, but as long as the minerals can be recovered again after there are no more aliens infesting the planet that is still a way better investment than building ships & missiles out of them to do the same job.
Posted by: Father Tim
« on: November 17, 2019, 06:32:34 PM »

Sorry.  Aurora Mass Drivers can't move 'rock'.  The trans-newtonian physics they operate on can only hurl TN elements.  You'll have to bombard your enemy with expensive minerals, not free dirt.
Posted by: boggo2300
« on: November 17, 2019, 03:16:43 PM »

My first reaction to the idea is why exactly would they need to be missiles with their own propulsion and other guidance system launched at destinations?

We're already launching thousands upon thousands of tons of minerals at a time from mass drivers from one planet to another and having them arrive safely at the destination. So if a civilisation was so inclined why wouldn't they simply develop more sturdy shipping coffins that hold 1 person with enough internal systems just to keep the occupant alive. And then the planetary mass drivers could launch thousands of colonists at a time at the destination.

At the end of the day, solving the 'surviving launching people in space coffins from mass drivers' engineering problem would probably be more efficient and practical then developing a consumable one-use intelligent human missile system approach.

Well without another mass driver to catch them, mass driver packets are orbital bombardment...

Hmmm an option to just launch packets of rock from mass drivers,  use them for Actual Moon is a Harsh Mistress style bombardment...
Posted by: Tikigod
« on: November 16, 2019, 09:33:15 PM »

My first reaction to the idea is why exactly would they need to be missiles with their own propulsion and other guidance system launched at destinations?

We're already launching thousands upon thousands of tons of minerals at a time from mass drivers from one planet to another and having them arrive safely at the destination. So if a civilisation was so inclined why wouldn't they simply develop more sturdy shipping coffins that hold 1 person with enough internal systems just to keep the occupant alive. And then the planetary mass drivers could launch thousands of colonists at a time at the destination.

At the end of the day, solving the 'surviving launching people in space coffins from mass drivers' engineering problem would probably be more efficient and practical then developing a consumable one-use intelligent human missile system approach.
Posted by: boggo2300
« on: October 13, 2019, 05:14:01 PM »

You'd need a damn lot of missiles is all I'll say.

Though a nifty way to get intelligence teams onto an enemy colony...
Posted by: Rabid_Cog
« on: October 08, 2019, 07:13:37 AM »

Now you are making me imagine ways one could weaponize Cryogenic Transport Modules.

Stasis missile, anyone?
Posted by: QuakeIV
« on: October 05, 2019, 01:45:21 PM »

I mean, insofar as you don't have as much control over those as you do missiles.
Posted by: xenoscepter
« on: October 05, 2019, 02:26:28 AM »

@Tree

I was just about to say that.

@All

Yeah, I thought it was a nifty idea for an after-project, once Steve finishes C#. I like the idea of a giant orbital MLRS that launches these to budding planets, it's pretty cool. As for a use-case, Missile Tubes are weapons, Cryogenic Transport Modules are not. From colonizing to ass-kicking with the swap of a mag.
Posted by: Tree
« on: October 05, 2019, 01:42:06 AM »

I question the actual usefulness, but the idea of an opposed colonization effort does sound vaguely hilarious to me.

e: so it just hit me, what about missile drop pods for infantry and such? that could be pretty cool, thematically speaking.  huge launch tubes filled with mechs and tanks and troops and stuff.

https://youtu.be/kyIMegaOxyg?t=42

I assume that's just the combat drop pod modules.