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Posted by: littleWolf
« on: June 15, 2017, 06:39:38 AM »

new modification Jumper with new engines, pd turrets, sensors & etc. some fuel need to refuel explorers-fighters squadron on Scout-Stealth in long expedition. 

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Jumper Stealth - mk7 class Jump Escort Cruiser    30 000 tons     662 Crew     11101.5 BP      TCS 60  TH 240  EM 0
3333 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 2-86     Shields 0-0     Sensors 900/2/0/0     Damage Control Rating 31     PPV 41.4
Maint Life 0.04 Years     MSP 3231    AFR 7200%    IFR 100%    1YR 87833    5YR 1317488    Max Repair 5000 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 100 months    Spare Berths 0   

J30000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 30000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
1000 EP Inertial Fusion Drive TR12 FC25 EP1.25 (2)    Power 1000    Fuel Use 32.75%    Signature 120    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 000 Litres    Range 183.2 billion km   (636 days at full power)

Twin R9/C3 Meson Cannon PD  r90 Turret (5x2)    Range 90 000km     TS: 40000 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 9    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S02 100-25000 H70 pd (1)    Max Range: 200 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant  P32 (1)     Total Power Output 32    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (70%) ams (1)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH50-900 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
EM Detection Sensor EM0.1-1.8 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 1.8     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1.8m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 10% of normal

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

My millitary FAST fleet:

(maybe need replace 5x2 meson pd turrets  on EWC and JD  to 3x2 gauss pd turrets. Meson pd better vs heavy armored missile, but Gauss pd - vs swarms of small fast missile)

1 Sentry ship 

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Sentry class Early Warning Craft    10 000 tons     302 Crew     6474.5 BP      TCS 200  TH 360  EM 0
15000 km/s     Armour 3-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 41.4
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 2000%    IFR 27.8%    1YR 13705    5YR 205578    Max Repair 1500 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 30 months    Spare Berths 0   

1000 EP Inertial Fusion Drive TR12 FC25 EP1.25 (3)    Power 1000    Fuel Use 32.75%    Signature 120    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 250 000 Litres    Range 68.7 billion km   (53 days at full power)

Twin R9/C3 Meson Cannon PD  r90 Turret (5x2)    Range 90 000km     TS: 40000 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 9    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S02 100-25000 H70 pd (1)    Max Range: 200 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant  P32 (1)     Total Power Output 32    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR2160-R100 (70%) (1)     GPS 120000     Range 2 160.0m km    Resolution 100
Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (70%) ams (1)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
EM Detection Sensor EM0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

1 jumpship:
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Jumper class Jump Destroyer    10 000 tons     309 Crew     5035.5 BP      TCS 200  TH 360  EM 0
15000 km/s    JR 6-50     Armour 2-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 41.4
Maint Life 0.08 Years     MSP 315    AFR 800%    IFR 11.1%    1YR 4013    5YR 60198    Max Repair 1250 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 30 months    Spare Berths 1   

J10000(6-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 10000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 6
1000 EP Inertial Fusion Drive TR12 FC25 EP1.25 (3)    Power 1000    Fuel Use 32.75%    Signature 120    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 250 000 Litres    Range 68.7 billion km   (53 days at full power)

Twin R9/C3 Meson Cannon PD  r90 Turret (5x2)    Range 90 000km     TS: 40000 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 9    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S02 100-25000 H70 pd (1)    Max Range: 200 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant  P32 (1)     Total Power Output 32    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (70%) ams (1)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
EM Detection Sensor EM0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

4-5 destroyers
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Grom class Destroyer    10 000 tons     311 Crew     7873 BP      TCS 200  TH 360  EM 0
15000 km/s     Armour 4-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 48.56
Maint Life 0.1 Years     MSP 492    AFR 800%    IFR 11.1%    1YR 4943    5YR 74147    Max Repair 1875 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 30 months    Spare Berths 1   

1000 EP Inertial Fusion Drive TR12 FC25 EP1.25 (3)    Power 1000    Fuel Use 32.75%    Signature 120    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 250 000 Litres    Range 68.7 billion km   (53 days at full power)

25cm C8 X-Ray Laser ROF2 PR8 R1.1m (4)    Range 800 000km     TS: 15000 km/s     Power 16-8     RM 7    ROF 10        16 16 16 16 16 16 16 13 12 11
Twin R9/C3 Meson Cannon PD  r90 Turret (2x2)    Range 90 000km     TS: 40000 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 9    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S08 400-25000 H70 (1)    Max Range: 800 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     99 98 96 95 94 92 91 90 89 88
Fire Control S02 100-25000 H70 pd (1)    Max Range: 200 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     95 90 85 80 75 70 65 60 55 50
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant  P32 (2)     Total Power Output 64    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR8-R1 (70%) ams (1)     GPS 48     Range 8.6m km    MCR 941k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
EM Detection Sensor EM0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km

ECM 40

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Posted by: Barkhorn
« on: June 14, 2017, 11:32:25 AM »

You've got practically no missile defense.  Also your fire control's speed doesn't match your turrets' tracking speed.
Posted by: Iranon
« on: June 14, 2017, 07:54:50 AM »

Yes, much too thirsty.

Take the Jumper Stealth:
4x 0.8 power engines and 100HS fuel fits on the same tonnage, has the same speed, uses 18% as much fuel, and has several times the range.

4x1.2 power engines and 100HS fuel has slightly more range than the original, uses 49% as much fuel, and is 50% faster.

Overstressed engines compensated by excessive fuel load is the easiest way to ruin a design. Even if you want the design to refuel others, it's too much.
Posted by: littleWolf
« on: June 14, 2017, 03:55:48 AM »

Use military uprated engines, 1.6x power  3.24x consumption.   Base FC tech 0.3 litres
Posted by: Detros
« on: June 14, 2017, 03:40:37 AM »

For the level of other techs, those are some thirsty engines.
Posted by: littleWolf
« on: June 14, 2017, 02:27:53 AM »

Recon carrier:

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Scout Stealth - mk6 class Carrier    30 000 tons     747 Crew     14681.5 BP      TCS 60  TH 320  EM 0
3333 km/s     Armour 2-86     Shields 0-0     Sensors 900/900/0/0     Damage Control Rating 11     PPV 36.98
Maint Life 0.01 Years     MSP 1306    AFR 7200%    IFR 100%    1YR 124450    5YR 1866755    Max Repair 5000 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 100 months    Flight Crew Berths 66   
Hangar Deck Capacity 2000 tons     

1000 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive low IR (2)    Power 1000    Fuel Use 72.86%    Signature 160    Exp 16%
Fuel Capacity 5 350 000 Litres    Range 44.1 billion km   (152 days at full power)

Quad 20cm C5 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (1x4)    Range 600 000km     TS: 30000 km/s     Power 40-20     RM 6    ROF 10        10 10 10 10 10 10 8 7 6 5
Fire Control S08 400-25000 H70 (1)    Max Range: 800 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     99 98 96 95 94 92 91 90 89 88
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 5s40w (1)     Total Power Output 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR9-R1 AMR (1)     GPS 84     Range 9.2m km    MCR 1.0m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor MR1155-R100 (1)     GPS 105000     Range 1 155.0m km    Resolution 100
Thermal Sensor TH50-900 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
EM Detection Sensor EM50-900 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 10% of normal

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Jumpship/tanker for escort:

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Jumper Stealth - mk6 class Jump Escort Cruiser    30 000 tons     639 Crew     12557.5 BP      TCS 60  TH 320  EM 0
3333 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 2-86     Shields 0-0     Sensors 900/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 11     PPV 36.98
Maint Life 0.01 Years     MSP 2262    AFR 7200%    IFR 100%    1YR 203850    5YR 3057743    Max Repair 5000 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 100 months    Spare Berths 0   

J30000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 30000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
1000 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive low IR (2)    Power 1000    Fuel Use 72.86%    Signature 160    Exp 16%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 000 Litres    Range 82.3 billion km   (285 days at full power)

Quad 20cm C5 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (1x4)    Range 600 000km     TS: 30000 km/s     Power 40-20     RM 6    ROF 10        10 10 10 10 10 10 8 7 6 5
Fire Control S08 400-25000 H70 (1)    Max Range: 800 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     99 98 96 95 94 92 91 90 89 88
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 5s40w (1)     Total Power Output 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR9-R1 AMR (1)     GPS 84     Range 9.2m km    MCR 1.0m km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH50-900 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 10% of normal

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Parasites for RC

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Gravi MK5 class Fighter    500 tons     16 Crew     278 BP      TCS 10  TH 5.12  EM 0
3200 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/3/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 100%    IFR 1.4%    1YR 65    5YR 979    Max Repair 200 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 15 months    Spare Berths 0   

32 EP Inertial Fusion Drive LiR 0.16 p1.0 (1)    Power 32    Fuel Use 29.7%    Signature 5.12    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 70 000 Litres    Range 84.8 billion km   (306 days at full power)

Thermal Sensor TH0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
EM Detection Sensor EM0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
Advanced Gravitational Sensors (1)   3 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

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Geolog MK5 class Fighter    500 tons     16 Crew     278 BP      TCS 10  TH 5.12  EM 0
3200 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/3     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 100%    IFR 1.4%    1YR 65    5YR 979    Max Repair 200 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 15 months    Spare Berths 0   

32 EP Inertial Fusion Drive LiR 0.16 p1.0 (1)    Power 32    Fuel Use 29.7%    Signature 5.12    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 70 000 Litres    Range 84.8 billion km   (306 days at full power)

Thermal Sensor TH0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
EM Detection Sensor EM0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
Advanced Geological Sensors (1)   3 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Ships for escort:
(nice work vs Fighters and FAC)
Destroyer Leader:
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Kiev mk3 class Destroyer Leader    10 000 tons     303 Crew     6657 BP      TCS 200  TH 480  EM 0
15000 km/s     Armour 1-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 48.98
Maint Life 0.09 Years     MSP 416    AFR 800%    IFR 11.1%    1YR 4889    5YR 73331    Max Repair 1875 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 30 months    Spare Berths 2   

1000 EP Magnetic Fusion Drive low IR (3)    Power 1000    Fuel Use 72.86%    Signature 160    Exp 16%
Fuel Capacity 1 250 000 Litres    Range 30.9 billion km   (23 days at full power)

20cm C5 Soft X-ray Laser (2)    Range 600 000km     TS: 15000 km/s     Power 10-5     RM 6    ROF 10        10 10 10 10 10 10 8 7 6 5
Quad 20cm C5 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (1x4)    Range 600 000km     TS: 30000 km/s     Power 40-20     RM 6    ROF 10        10 10 10 10 10 10 8 7 6 5
Fire Control S08 400-25000 H70 (1)    Max Range: 800 000 km   TS: 25000 km/s     99 98 96 95 94 92 91 90 89 88
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 5s40w (1)     Total Power Output 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR73-R10 AFtr (1)     GPS 2100     Range 73.0m km    Resolution 10
Thermal Sensor TH0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km
EM Detection Sensor EM0.2-1 (1)     Sensitivity 1     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1m km

ECM 20

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Posted by: obsidian_green
« on: June 13, 2017, 11:09:53 PM »

In my first and current game, my sole battle group consists of two missile cruisers armed with ASMs and AMMs, two area-defense cruisers designed almost exclusively for PD, and a frigate as my long-range sensor platform.     I intended a 20,000t carrier as well, but I'm waiting until I achieve a next generation of weapons, defense, and sensor systems.   The wiki and a couple of youtube vids made me scared to death of missile attacks, so I designed (I hope) accordingly.   The only real threat I've faced came at me with a large fleet of railgun-armed fast-attackers against earlier designs organized to the same doctrine, but this battle group can handle them with its missiles in a running engagement. 

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Agamemnon B class Missile Cruiser    15 200 tons     375 Crew     2703.6 BP      TCS 304  TH 1520  EM 540
5000 km/s     Armour 6-54     Shields 18-300     Sensors 28/80/0/0     Damage Control Rating 30     PPV 23
Maint Life 4.78 Years     MSP 2168    AFR 94%    IFR 1.3%    1YR 156    5YR 2341    Max Repair 380 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 18 months    Spare Berths 0   
Magazine 675   

760 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 760    Fuel Use 18.6%    Signature 760    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 750 000 Litres    Range 47.8 billion km   (110 days at full power)
Delta (2.5) R300/180 Shields (7)   Total Fuel Cost  53 Litres per hour  (1 260 per day)

CIWS-160/8 (4x8)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
ML-S6-Mk2 Missile Launcher (ASM/45s) (3)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 45
ML-S1-50t Missile Launcher (AMM-1) (5)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
MFC-19m/2m-Res1t (AMM-1) (1)     Range 19.1m km    Resolution 1
MFC-201mk-R3000t (ASM-1) (1)     Range 201.3m km    Resolution 60
ASM-1 (42)  Speed: 33 700 km/s   End: 49.9m    Range: 100.9m km   WH: 12    Size: 6    TH: 191/114/57
AMM-1 R2.5mk (423)  Speed: 61 200 km/s   End: 0.7m    Range: 2.5m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 489/293/146

Active Search MR206mk-R4000t (1)     GPS 16800     Range 206.6m km    Resolution 80
Active Search (PD) MR2mk-R50 (1)     GPS 32     Range 2.6m km    MCR 279k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH2-28 (SR) (1)     Sensitivity 28     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  28m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-80 (1)     Sensitivity 80     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  80m km

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Salamis class Area Defence Cruiser    15 200 tons     461 Crew     3881 BP      TCS 304  TH 1520  EM 540
5000 km/s     Armour 6-54     Shields 18-300     Sensors 28/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 30     PPV 84. 14
Maint Life 5. 32 Years     MSP 3192    AFR 92%    IFR 1. 3%    1YR 189    5YR 2831    Max Repair 384 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 18 months    Spare Berths 0   

760 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 760    Fuel Use 18. 6%    Signature 760    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 750 000 Litres    Range 47. 8 billion km   (110 days at full power)
Delta (2. 5) R300/180 Shields (7)   Total Fuel Cost  53 Litres per hour  (1 260 per day)

Quad 15cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (2x4)    Range 300 000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 24-24     RM 5    ROF 5        6 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 3 3
Twin Gauss Cannon R4-100 Turret (3x8)    Range 40 000km     TS: 16000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 4    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S08 160-16000 (UL12cmT) (2)    Max Range: 320 000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Fire Control S02 R32-TS16000 (GCT) (3)    Max Range: 64 000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0
Tokamak Fusion Reactor P8-50t (6)     Total Power Output 48    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search (PD) MR2mk-R50 (1)     GPS 32     Range 2. 6m km    MCR 279k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH2-28 (SR) (1)     Sensitivity 28     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  28m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Albatross class Recon Frigate    8 000 tons     217 Crew     1738 BP      TCS 160  TH 800  EM 540
5000 km/s     Armour 6-35     Shields 18-300     Sensors 700/80/0/0     Damage Control Rating 9     PPV 0
Maint Life 3. 21 Years     MSP 1222    AFR 56%    IFR 0. 8%    1YR 179    5YR 2686    Max Repair 700 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 18 months    Spare Berths 0   

400 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 400    Fuel Use 24%    Signature 400    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 500 000 Litres    Range 46. 9 billion km   (108 days at full power)
Delta (2. 5) R300/180 Shields (7)   Total Fuel Cost  53 Litres per hour  (1 260 per day)

Thermal Sensor TH50-700 (1)     Sensitivity 700     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  700m km
EM Detection Sensor EM10-80 (1)     Sensitivity 80     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  80m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Posted by: Detros
« on: June 08, 2017, 03:53:17 PM »

Quote from: Jonathan.Joestar on June 08, 2017, 09:39:02 AM
I find Detros's designs a little bit more interresting because he use mostly energy weapons , (i use kinetic weapons as main weapons so i'm pretty much a noob in that area of weapon) wich i want to try with heavy ships long-ranged energy weapons with a lot of shields but my designs in that area is always a failure so i used until now kinetic weapons , now with Detros's designs as a base i'm going to try another game. Thanks
Thanks. Missiles at first seemed too complicated to me and everyone was saying they are so OP against AI so I have hardly used them at all (in my total of two games :D ).

For the previous fleet of multiple early designs with only lasers you can see Sun Fleet (Near-Ultra Laser, Magneto-Plasma) thread. In the end I didn't build any Sunstorms and ended with two fleets of 10x Sunbeam, 5x Sunstone, 1x Sunshine, 1x Sunsteed. Combined they managed to get through multiple streams of AAM, each at 60 missiles / 5s while losing like 2 ships. Slower ASMs at only 15 / 5s didn't manage to scratch the paint job, then.
Posted by: Jonathan.Joestar
« on: June 08, 2017, 09:39:02 AM »

Quote from: Tree on June 07, 2017, 03:41:03 PM
Made these for a new game.
I found the three civs to have interestingly different techs, that was nice (I always let the game spend the research points). Randomly decided only one had figured out engines small enough to fit on missiles. Think they should handle fine against each others if it comes down to it.

ATO:

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Napoleon class Cruiser    12 500 tons     370 Crew     2290.5 BP      TCS 250  TH 1125  EM 0
6000 km/s     Armour 5-47     Shields 0-0     Sensors 32/32/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 48
Maint Life 1.37 Years     MSP 802    AFR 178%    IFR 2.5%    1YR 459    5YR 6889    Max Repair 468.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   

750 EP Ion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 562.5    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres    Range 20.6 billion km   (39 days at full power)

15cm Railgun V3/C3 (8x4)    Range 90 000km     TS: 6250 km/s     Power 9-3     RM 3    ROF 15        3 3 3 2 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S02 96-6250 (2)    Max Range: 192 000 km   TS: 6250 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 27    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR90-R20 (1)     GPS 5040     Range 90.2m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km
EM Detection Sensor EM4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Nelson class Escort Cruiser    12 500 tons     288 Crew     2341 BP      TCS 250  TH 1125  EM 0
6000 km/s     Armour 5-47     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 6     PPV 67
Maint Life 1.3 Years     MSP 790    AFR 185%    IFR 2.6%    1YR 495    5YR 7422    Max Repair 468.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0   

750 EP Ion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 562.5    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres    Range 20.6 billion km   (39 days at full power)

Twin Gauss Cannon R4-100 Turret (4x8)    Range 40 000km     TS: 12500 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 4    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 48-12500 (2)    Max Range: 96 000 km   TS: 12500 km/s     90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0

Active Search Sensor MR17-R1 (1)     GPS 224     Range 17.9m km    MCR 2.0m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

GPA:

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Kongo class Missile Destroyer    10 000 tons     204 Crew     1716.4 BP      TCS 200  TH 900  EM 0
4500 km/s     Armour 5-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 32/32/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 30
Maint Life 1.35 Years     MSP 536    AFR 160%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 316    5YR 4739    Max Repair 450 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 483   

900 EP Ion Drive (1)    Power 900    Fuel Use 110.23%    Signature 900    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 1 350 000 Litres    Range 22.0 billion km   (56 days at full power)

Size 3 Missile Launcher (50% Reduction) (20)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 150
Missile Fire Control FC82-R20 (2)     Range 82.6m km    Resolution 20
Size 3 Anti-ship Missile v3 (160)  Speed: 23 900 km/s   End: 17.9m    Range: 25.7m km   WH: 4    Size: 3    TH: 103/62/31

Active Search Sensor MR80-R20 (1)     GPS 4480     Range 80.1m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km
EM Detection Sensor EM4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

USR:

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Moskva class Armoured Cruiser    15 000 tons     479 Crew     2918 BP      TCS 300  TH 750  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 6-54     Shields 0-0     Sensors 77/77/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 80
Maint Life 1.4 Years     MSP 973    AFR 225%    IFR 3.1%    1YR 543    5YR 8144    Max Repair 562.5 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   

750 EP Ion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 375    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 250 000 Litres    Range 21.5 billion km   (49 days at full power)

Particle Beam-6 (10)    Range 150 000km     TS: 5000 km/s     Power 15-3    ROF 25        6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Fire Control S02 96-5000 (2)    Max Range: 192 000 km   TS: 5000 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 31.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR106-R20 (1)     GPS 4320     Range 106.3m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH7-77 (1)     Sensitivity 77     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  77m km
EM Detection Sensor EM7-77 (1)     Sensitivity 77     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  77m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Kaifeng class Destroyer Escort    7 500 tons     170 Crew     1428 BP      TCS 150  TH 375  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 5-34     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 52.64
Maint Life 1.24 Years     MSP 458    AFR 116%    IFR 1.6%    1YR 311    5YR 4663    Max Repair 562.5 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0   

750 EP Ion Drive (1)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 375    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 625 000 Litres    Range 21.5 billion km   (49 days at full power)

Triple Gauss Cannon R3-100 Turret (2x9)    Range 30 000km     TS: 15000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S03 48-15000 (1)    Max Range: 96 000 km   TS: 15000 km/s     90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0

Active Search Sensor MR7-R1 (1)     GPS 72     Range 7.9m km    MCR 863k km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
So what's the formations of your TG ? I mean how many ships of that kind you use in like a squadron or small fleet , it is good to know the designs of the ships but without understanding how they complement each other it is a little bit hard to understand the designs if they are independant or dependant on other ships to be fully effective
And here are for you Detros's designs (for the lazy guys)
Quote from: Detros on June 06, 2017, 08:55:19 AM
New Paths of Trisabria game plays bit weird because I started with two SF scientist and even with lev3 academy got EW one only after like 20 years. So when 33 years after conventional start first ships of magneto-pulse navy are ready, their fire controls are bit ahead.

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Surgat class Destroyer    7,500 tons     200 Crew     1647.56 BP      TCS 150  TH 345.5  EM 300
4606 km/s     Armour 4-34     Shields 10-300     Sensors 11/11/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 29.7
Maint Life 4.55 Years     MSP 961    AFR 64%    IFR 0.9%    1YR 75    5YR 1131    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 13 months    Spare Berths 2   

Pritchard-Lloyd 345.6 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 345.6    Fuel Use 40.88%    Signature 172.8    Exp 9%
Fuel Capacity 1,100,000 Litres    Range 64.6 billion km   (162 days at full power)
Woods & Warner Gamma R300/336 Shields (5)   Total Fuel Cost  70 Litres per hour  (1,680 per day)

Twin Hartley Syndicate 15cm C3 Near Ultraviolet Laser Turret RG23.75 (3x2)    Range 180,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 12-6     RM 3    ROF 10        6 6 6 4 3 3 2 2 2 1
Moran-Cunningham Fire Control S04 160-10000 (2)    Max Range: 320,000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tomlinson & Watts Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 P6 (3)     Total Power Output 18    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Jordan-Ahmed Active Search Sensor MR2-R1 AAS21-110 (1)     GPS 21     Range 2.3m km    MCR 252k km    Resolution 1
Pugh-Green Thermal Sensor TH1-11 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  11m km
Pugh-Green EM Detection Sensor EM1-11 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  11m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
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Tarthanac class Cruiser    15,000 tons     423 Crew     2765.62 BP      TCS 300  TH 691  EM 300
4606 km/s     Armour 6-54     Shields 10-300     Sensors 11/11/0/0     Damage Control Rating 19     PPV 60
Maint Life 6.23 Years     MSP 2189    AFR 94%    IFR 1.3%    1YR 97    5YR 1450    Max Repair 233.28 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 15 months    Spare Berths 2   

Pritchard-Lloyd 345.6 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (4)    Power 345.6    Fuel Use 40.88%    Signature 172.8    Exp 9%
Fuel Capacity 2,050,000 Litres    Range 60.2 billion km   (151 days at full power)
Woods & Warner Gamma R300/336 Shields (5)   Total Fuel Cost  70 Litres per hour  (1,680 per day)

Hartley Syndicate 15cm C3 Near Ultraviolet Laser (15)    Range 180,000km     TS: 5000 km/s     Power 6-3     RM 3    ROF 10        6 6 6 4 3 3 2 2 2 1
Hyde & North Kinetics CIWS-200 (1x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Moran-Cunningham Fire Control S02 160-5000 (3)    Max Range: 320,000 km   TS: 5000 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tomlinson & Watts Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1.05 P2.52 (1)     Total Power Output 2.52    Armour 0    Exp 7%
Tomlinson & Watts Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 P6 (7)     Total Power Output 42    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Jordan-Ahmed Active Search Sensor MR2-R1 AAS21-110 (1)     GPS 21     Range 2.3m km    MCR 252k km    Resolution 1
Pugh-Green Thermal Sensor TH1-11 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  11m km
Pugh-Green EM Detection Sensor EM1-11 (1)     Sensitivity 11     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  11m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

For 30k km range band that BFC goes
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Moran-Cunningham Fire Control S02 160-5000 (3)    Max Range: 320,000 km   TS: 5000 km/s     91 81 72 62 53 44 34 25 16 6
These two attackers will be accompanied by few Area Defense Destroyers and some frigates but those are still in the planning. Not yet updated, so far my only active ship (2x):
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Merenra class Area Defence Destroyer    8,100 tons     222 Crew     1066.5 BP      TCS 162  TH 486  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 3-35     Shields 0-0     Sensors 8/8/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 54
Maint Life 4.49 Years     MSP 658    AFR 65%    IFR 0.9%    1YR 53    5YR 793    Max Repair 182.25 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 10 months    Spare Berths 0   

Chandler-Cross 324 EP Ion Drive (2)    Power 324    Fuel Use 37.65%    Signature 243    Exp 9%
Fuel Capacity 550,000 Litres    Range 32.5 billion km   (93 days at full power)

George Syndicate Gauss Cannon R1-100 ROF2 (9x2)    Range 10,000km     TS: 5000 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 100%     RM 1    ROF 5        0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Chapman-Clayton Corporation Fire Control S00.2 16-4000 (9)    Max Range: 32,000 km   TS: 4000 km/s     6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Cross-Thorpe Active Search Sensor MR1-R1 ASS16-80 (1)     GPS 16     Range 1.3m km    MCR 139k km    Resolution 1
Brown-Wallace Thermal Sensor TH1-8 (1)     Sensitivity 8     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  8m km
Brown-Wallace EM Detection Sensor EM1-8 (1)     Sensitivity 8     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  8m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
After using only lasers last game I am quite enjoying the differentiation now: BFC with not much speed but max range for lasers and speed but possibly even range malus to gauss point defence. Having both 4x speed and 4x range is sooo costly, otherwise. C# Aurora should bring cheaper BFCs beside other things.
I find Detros's designs a little bit more interresting because he use mostly energy weapons , (i use kinetic weapons as main weapons so i'm pretty much a noob in that area of weapon) wich i want to try with heavy ships long-ranged energy weapons with a lot of shields but my designs in that area is always a failure so i used until now kinetic weapons , now with Detros's designs as a base i'm going to try another game. Thanks
Posted by: Barkhorn
« on: June 07, 2017, 05:50:48 PM »

Detros,

I do play with maintenance off.  I think maintenance is more of a head-ache than its worth.

I wanted the low-power engines so I could have long ranges without bringing a tanker.  I guess next game I'll put a jump drive on my tankers so I can bring them along.
Posted by: Tree
« on: June 07, 2017, 04:52:15 PM »

Quote from: Detros on June 07, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
* Kaifeng even has MSP less than Max repair - it can't itself even maintain its prices component
Oh damn, missed that one. Usually I go for more MSP than max repair, yes.
And otherwise, yeah, they spend a lot of time in overhaul when not training or fighting.
Posted by: Detros
« on: June 07, 2017, 04:44:27 PM »

My problems with Barkhorn's design are:
* Annual Failure Rate is through the roof - do you use maintenance OFF?
* only one engine, you lose it, you are a sitting duck
* if those two classes are meant to be used mostly together why not to use those 1000t more on Donitz, bringing it to the same size and speed?
* range is also widely different, especially if Blutcher is sometimes meant to sit on one spot while Donitzes rushes forward
* unless you are low on fuel it may be worth to use stronger engines for faster ships, 14 % seems maybe too fuel-conservant - note Tree's ships are faster with 2 techs lower Ion drives

My problems with Barkhorn's design are:
* quite low maintenance life and high AFR
* MSP is less than double Max repair - if something big breaks you can't repair it yourself even if some other ship donates you supplies
* Kaifeng even has MSP less than Max repair - it can't itself even maintain its prices component

My designs are at Ships thread next door. Feel free to raise your objections against my style of having reserves of all systems.
Posted by: Tree
« on: June 07, 2017, 03:41:03 PM »

Made these for a new game.
I found the three civs to have interestingly different techs, that was nice (I always let the game spend the research points). Randomly decided only one had figured out engines small enough to fit on missiles. Think they should handle fine against each others if it comes down to it.

ATO:

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Napoleon class Cruiser    12 500 tons     370 Crew     2290.5 BP      TCS 250  TH 1125  EM 0
6000 km/s     Armour 5-47     Shields 0-0     Sensors 32/32/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 48
Maint Life 1.37 Years     MSP 802    AFR 178%    IFR 2.5%    1YR 459    5YR 6889    Max Repair 468.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   

750 EP Ion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 562.5    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres    Range 20.6 billion km   (39 days at full power)

15cm Railgun V3/C3 (8x4)    Range 90 000km     TS: 6250 km/s     Power 9-3     RM 3    ROF 15        3 3 3 2 1 1 1 1 1 0
Fire Control S02 96-6250 (2)    Max Range: 192 000 km   TS: 6250 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 27    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR90-R20 (1)     GPS 5040     Range 90.2m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km
EM Detection Sensor EM4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Nelson class Escort Cruiser    12 500 tons     288 Crew     2341 BP      TCS 250  TH 1125  EM 0
6000 km/s     Armour 5-47     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 6     PPV 67
Maint Life 1.3 Years     MSP 790    AFR 185%    IFR 2.6%    1YR 495    5YR 7422    Max Repair 468.75 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0   

750 EP Ion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 562.5    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres    Range 20.6 billion km   (39 days at full power)

Twin Gauss Cannon R4-100 Turret (4x8)    Range 40 000km     TS: 12500 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 4    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 48-12500 (2)    Max Range: 96 000 km   TS: 12500 km/s     90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0

Active Search Sensor MR17-R1 (1)     GPS 224     Range 17.9m km    MCR 2.0m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

GPA:

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Kongo class Missile Destroyer    10 000 tons     204 Crew     1716.4 BP      TCS 200  TH 900  EM 0
4500 km/s     Armour 5-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 32/32/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 30
Maint Life 1.35 Years     MSP 536    AFR 160%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 316    5YR 4739    Max Repair 450 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 483   

900 EP Ion Drive (1)    Power 900    Fuel Use 110.23%    Signature 900    Exp 15%
Fuel Capacity 1 350 000 Litres    Range 22.0 billion km   (56 days at full power)

Size 3 Missile Launcher (50% Reduction) (20)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 150
Missile Fire Control FC82-R20 (2)     Range 82.6m km    Resolution 20
Size 3 Anti-ship Missile v3 (160)  Speed: 23 900 km/s   End: 17.9m    Range: 25.7m km   WH: 4    Size: 3    TH: 103/62/31

Active Search Sensor MR80-R20 (1)     GPS 4480     Range 80.1m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km
EM Detection Sensor EM4-32 (1)     Sensitivity 32     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  32m km

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Moskva class Armoured Cruiser    15 000 tons     479 Crew     2918 BP      TCS 300  TH 750  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 6-54     Shields 0-0     Sensors 77/77/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 80
Maint Life 1.4 Years     MSP 973    AFR 225%    IFR 3.1%    1YR 543    5YR 8144    Max Repair 562.5 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   

750 EP Ion Drive (2)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 375    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 250 000 Litres    Range 21.5 billion km   (49 days at full power)

Particle Beam-6 (10)    Range 150 000km     TS: 5000 km/s     Power 15-3    ROF 25        6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Fire Control S02 96-5000 (2)    Max Range: 192 000 km   TS: 5000 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 31.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor MR106-R20 (1)     GPS 4320     Range 106.3m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH7-77 (1)     Sensitivity 77     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  77m km
EM Detection Sensor EM7-77 (1)     Sensitivity 77     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  77m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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Kaifeng class Destroyer Escort    7 500 tons     170 Crew     1428 BP      TCS 150  TH 375  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 5-34     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 52.64
Maint Life 1.24 Years     MSP 458    AFR 116%    IFR 1.6%    1YR 311    5YR 4663    Max Repair 562.5 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0   

750 EP Ion Drive (1)    Power 750    Fuel Use 69.88%    Signature 375    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 625 000 Litres    Range 21.5 billion km   (49 days at full power)

Triple Gauss Cannon R3-100 Turret (2x9)    Range 30 000km     TS: 15000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S03 48-15000 (1)    Max Range: 96 000 km   TS: 15000 km/s     90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0

Active Search Sensor MR7-R1 (1)     GPS 72     Range 7.9m km    MCR 863k km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Posted by: Jonathan.Joestar
« on: June 07, 2017, 03:17:56 PM »

Oh ! thanks for sharing your designs !
Posted by: Barkhorn
« on: June 07, 2017, 02:03:12 PM »

I think its more important to keep the Blucher at a safe distance so you don't lose your only search sensor.

Each Donitz puts out 32 shots every 10 seconds, meaning a single squadron can do 48 shots every tick.  I think that even with poor tracking speed they could kill fighters pretty quickly.  Especially since fighters have such anemic beam weapon range.  My accuracy will be higher, and my damage improves.  At close range, a single hit is enough to kill a fighter.

I think a bigger threat is missile fighters spamming small, very high speed missiles.  Or worst of all, beam ships with better range and speed.