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Offline Canaris (OP)

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Vessels of the Terran Union
« on: January 21, 2010, 11:38:37 PM »
Nothing too flashy here - these are just the first craft (designed in 2025) of the Terran Union, built by real-world contractors and operated by the United Nations Aerospace Agency - the defense arm of the eminent world government of earth.

All of the following were designed by a consortium of the following contractors: BAE Systems, EADS, Finmeccania, General Dynamics, L-3 Communications, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Northrop Grumman, NPO Molniya, SAIC, Siemens AG, Raytheon, and the Thales Group.

First, a dedicated long-range cargo hauler, envisioned to carry materiel to other worlds and return with useful minerals:
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335 class Cargo Ship    33500 tons     249 Crew     402.5 BP      TCS 670  TH 310  EM 0
462 km/s     Armour 1-92     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maintenance Capacity 1008 MSP    Max Repair 16 MSP
Cargo 25000    Cargo Handling Multiplier 25    

UNE-NT62.1/62 C (5)    Power 62    Fuel Use 10%    Signature 62    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 400,000 Litres    Range 214.6 billion km   (5376 days at full power)

This design is classed as a commercial vessel for maintenance purposes

Second, the primary vessel of the Terran Union, named in honor of the first successful re-usable manned launch and re-entry system:
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Enterprise class Science Vessel    5000 tons     342 Crew     702 BP      TCS 100  TH 75  EM 0
750 km/s     Armour 1-26     Shields 0-0     Sensors 5/5/2/0     Damage Control Rating 12     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 16%    IFR: 0.2%    Maintenance Capacity 2053 MSP    Max Repair 100 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 2000 tons    

UNE-NT25.5/25 M (3)    Power 25    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 25    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 250,000 Litres    Range 90.0 billion km   (1388 days at full power)

UNAS-A1.10/100 (1)     GPS 1000     Range 10.0m km    Resolution 100
UNTS-A1.5 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  5m km
UNES-A1.5 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  5m km
Gravitational Survey Sensors (2)   2 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

Thirdly, we have a personnel shuttle, intended to bring security contractors to hot spots wherever they arise - it is often carried by the Enterprise class:
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Trammel class Shuttle    900 tons     35 Crew     43.5 BP      TCS 18  TH 25  EM 0
1388 km/s     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 12%    IFR: 0.2%    Maintenance Capacity 15 MSP    Max Repair 12 MSP
Troop Capacity: 1 Company    

UNE-NT25.5/25 M (1)    Power 25    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 25    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 20.0 billion km   (166 days at full power)

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

Finally, the craft responsible for all geological survey operations, carried for the duration of it's missions and deployed by the Enterprise class:
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Aspire class Scout    900 tons     83 Crew     238.5 BP      TCS 18  TH 25  EM 0
1388 km/s     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/2     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 12%    IFR: 0.2%    Maintenance Capacity 83 MSP    Max Repair 100 MSP

UNE-NT25.5/25 M (1)    Power 25    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 25    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres    Range 20.0 billion km   (166 days at full power)

Geological Survey Sensors (2)   2 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

There's more to come, to be sure. I didn't offer much to critique on, but keep in mind these craft are designed from a roleplaying standpoint.

Either way, comments welcome!
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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 11:45:14 PM »
Nice, closely matches my survey method, though I use a mothership carrying both grav and geo parasites, and leave my mothership at the entrance jump point, to act as a refueling depot for my survey craft.

Your Enterprise class is very slow though, and carrying a huge amount of fuel and maint, maybe a trade off will help, because at 742km/s its going to take a loooong time to move across systems from Jump Gate to Jump Gate, I try to keep my survey motherships up around 1500-2500 km/s

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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 12:02:59 AM »
Quote from: "boggo2300"
Nice, closely matches my survey method, though I use a mothership carrying both grav and geo parasites, and leave my mothership at the entrance jump point, to act as a refueling depot for my survey craft.

Your Enterprise class is very slow though, and carrying a huge amount of fuel and maint, maybe a trade off will help, because at 742km/s its going to take a loooong time to move across systems from Jump Gate to Jump Gate, I try to keep my survey motherships up around 1500-2500 km/s

Matt

I probably should make another parasite for grav survey - good idea.

It is slow - but I'm using it as a fueler and maintainer for it's parasites, and 5000 tons is the maximum at the moment.

I like giving myself design goals such as: not exceeding a certain tonnage or having a minimum number of engines.

The next science vessel will have the next generation of technology, it looks like, so many of those problems will be alleviated.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 12:13:36 AM »
Thats what I do as well, I hace a tender, that acts holds fuel and maint for the parasites, however, you have a very low failure rate on your parasite so you wont need a lot of maint.  amd at that speed you might hit another tech level or 2 by the time it gets anywhere :)

I generally hit one of my yards with an add 10000 capacity straight off, so I can make a nice comfy sized mothership by the time i've finished surveying the home system.  I'm impressed with how much you managed to cram into 5000 tons!

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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 12:58:05 AM »
Quote from: "boggo2300"
Nice, closely matches my survey method, though I use a mothership carrying both grav and geo parasites, and leave my mothership at the entrance jump point, to act as a refueling depot for my survey craft.

Your Enterprise class is very slow though, and carrying a huge amount of fuel and maint, maybe a trade off will help, because at 742km/s its going to take a loooong time to move across systems from Jump Gate to Jump Gate, I try to keep my survey motherships up around 1500-2500 km/s

Matt

Seems like a really -low- amount of fuel to me =P

It only has 90 billion km range!

I like to have my survey vessels to have at least 5 times that. But then my survey ships tend to be giant ships with enough stuff to survey 4-10 systems before having to return all by their lonesome.

Granted he just started the game....I usually strap 500km/s-1000km/s worth of engines 3 fuel tanks and 1 grav sensor and a few engineering ports to start. Ditto for geo except they have no engineering.

I also notice my geo survey ships run out of fuel long before my grav survey ships do. I think I'll go increase their fuel tanks.
 

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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 07:27:43 AM »
Nice start.  Only real suggestion I've got is to add 1 more engineering section to the Aspire.  If the Geo sensor goes down you'll have to bring it back to the yards for repair.
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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2010, 11:36:38 AM »
Months and testing lead on a "specialized" Ships.

Am use a Single Scout Carriers,with onboard 5 parassites-800tons each: 2 Geo 2 Grav and 1 little tanker 800tons.
Plus 2 JumpTanker for refuel Carrier.
And,my Carriers have 20000 spare parts and r setting on "Suppply Ships"..
so my little Scout Squadroon have supply and tankers.

Carriers got maintenance 800-tons hangar so my parassite NOT need overhaul return on Colony BUT use the Carriers spare parts.

And now design:
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HMS Alaska Mk2 class Scout Carrier    30000 tons     2904 Crew     13989 BP      TCS 600  TH 1500  EM 0
5000 km/s    JR 4-100     Armour 1-86     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1120/960/0/0     Damage Control Rating 150     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 102%    IFR: 1.4%    Maintenance Capacity 23398 MSP    Max Repair 3360 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 5000 tons    
Maintenance Modules: 4 module(s) capable of supporting ships of 800 tons

J30000(4-100) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 30000 tons    Distance 100k km     Squadron Size 4
M-TYPE Solid Core Anti-matter Drive E3 (12)    Power 250    Fuel Use 30%    Signature 125    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 2,400,000 Litres    Range 480.0 billion km   (1111 days at full power)

Active Search Sensor S2240-R18 (50%) (1)     GPS 40320     Range 403.2m km    Resolution 18
Thermal Sensor TH35-1120 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 1120     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1120m km
EM Detection Sensor EM30-960 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 960     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  960m km

ECM 60

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
 

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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 02:38:47 PM »
In response to initial mission and trial reports in 2027, UNAsA ordered the evaluation of improved scientific platforms, resulting in the following re-designs.

The new Endeavor class is slated to take over exploration and survey missions from the Enterprise when it is completed in 2028:
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Endeavor class Science Vessel    5000 tons     344 Crew     532 BP      TCS 100  TH 125  EM 0
1250 km/s     Armour 1-26     Shields 0-0     Sensors 5/5/0/0     Damage Control Rating 12     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 16%    IFR: 0.2%    Maintenance Capacity 1798 MSP    Max Repair 12 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 2000 tons    

UNE-NT25.5/25 M (5)    Power 25    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 25    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 270,000 Litres    Range 97.2 billion km   (900 days at full power)

UNAS-A1.10/100 (1)     GPS 1000     Range 10.0m km    Resolution 100
UNTS-A1.5 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  5m km
UNES-A1.5 (1)     Sensitivity 5     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  5m km

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

The current Enterprise is already scheduled to be refit to take advantage of the new, more efficient design.

The Aspire class performed admirably in 2026 and early 2027, completing all of it's mission parameters among the inner planets and Jupiter.

However, although fears of equipment failure were never realized, a slight change in design direction was made in late 2026, resulting in the Aim class:
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Aim class Scout    950 tons     89 Crew     246.5 BP      TCS 19  TH 25  EM 0
1315 km/s     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/2     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 7%    IFR: 0.1%    Maintenance Capacity 162 MSP    Max Repair 100 MSP

UNE-NT25.5/25 M (1)    Power 25    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 25    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 20,000 Litres    Range 37.9 billion km   (333 days at full power)

Geological Survey Sensors (2)   2 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

With the removal of gravitational survey equipment from the Enterprise when it went under refit to the Endeavor, a replacement was needed.

The Hope class fulfills the requirement for gravitational anomaly exploration, with greater range at it's disposal:
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Hope class Scout    950 tons     89 Crew     246.5 BP      TCS 19  TH 25  EM 0
1315 km/s     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/2/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 7%    IFR: 0.1%    Maintenance Capacity 162 MSP    Max Repair 100 MSP

UNE-NT25.5/25 M (1)    Power 25    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 25    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 20,000 Litres    Range 37.9 billion km   (333 days at full power)

Gravitational Survey Sensors (2)   2 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

Now, none of these designs have any new technology in them - I mainly altered them just to fit the suggestions some of you made without changing them drastically.
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Re: Vessels of the Terran Union
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 03:46:05 PM »
Nice!

hmm I'd missed the Maint that Charlie raised, good thing I'm restarting for 4.9, need to revamp my own survey boats!

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