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Offline Bwizz245 (OP)

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Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« on: December 13, 2023, 01:38:30 AM »
I managed to get some colony ships stranded with no fuel, so I made a small tanker to go rescue them.  For some reason though, it's just not doing anything.  It's in the fleet and set to Refuel Own Fleet, but nothing is happening.  They're not moving, given that they're completely empty, but even if they were, I've already researched Underway Replenishment.  Any idea why this isn't working?

Here are both of the ship designs, and I've also attached an image of the fleet overview.

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Caduceus class Emergency Refueller      500 tons       7 Crew       50.6 BP       TCS 10    TH 12    EM 0
1202 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 6      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 0
Maint Life 3.58 Years     MSP 6    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 1    5YR 11    Max Repair 20 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 1 months    Morale Check Required   

Nuclear Gas-Core Engine  EP12.00 (1)    Power 12.0    Fuel Use 43.65%    Signature 12.00    Explosion 6%
Fuel Capacity 244,000 Litres    Range 201.6 billion km (1941 days at full power)
Refuelling Capability: 10,000 litres per hour     Complete Refuel 24 hours

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Celt Mk2 (Colony) class Colony Ship      39,360 tons       250 Crew       1,551.1 BP       TCS 787    TH 1,200    EM 0
1524 km/s      Armour 1-103       Shields 0-0       HTK 50      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 0
MSP 24    Max Repair 100 MSP
Cryogenic Berths 100,000    Cargo Shuttle Multiplier 4   
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months   

Newland-Aker NT300 Gas-Core Engine (4)    Power 1200    Fuel Use 5.05%    Signature 300    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 250,000 Litres    Range 22.6 billion km (171 days at full power)
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2023, 01:57:28 AM »
I managed to get some colony ships stranded with no fuel, so I made a small tanker to go rescue them.  For some reason though, it's just not doing anything.  It's in the fleet and set to Refuel Own Fleet, but nothing is happening.  They're not moving, given that they're completely empty, but even if they were, I've already researched Underway Replenishment.  Any idea why this isn't working?

Here are both of the ship designs, and I've also attached an image of the fleet overview.

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Caduceus class Emergency Refueller      500 tons       7 Crew       50.6 BP       TCS 10    TH 12    EM 0
1202 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 6      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 0
Maint Life 3.58 Years     MSP 6    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 1    5YR 11    Max Repair 20 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 1 months    Morale Check Required   

Nuclear Gas-Core Engine  EP12.00 (1)    Power 12.0    Fuel Use 43.65%    Signature 12.00    Explosion 6%
Fuel Capacity 244,000 Litres    Range 201.6 billion km (1941 days at full power)
Refuelling Capability: 10,000 litres per hour     Complete Refuel 24 hours

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Celt Mk2 (Colony) class Colony Ship      39,360 tons       250 Crew       1,551.1 BP       TCS 787    TH 1,200    EM 0
1524 km/s      Armour 1-103       Shields 0-0       HTK 50      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 0
MSP 24    Max Repair 100 MSP
Cryogenic Berths 100,000    Cargo Shuttle Multiplier 4   
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months   

Newland-Aker NT300 Gas-Core Engine (4)    Power 1200    Fuel Use 5.05%    Signature 300    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 250,000 Litres    Range 22.6 billion km (171 days at full power)
Check the minimum fuel on the emergency refueller, what is that set to? Its under the Priorities/misc tab in ship designer. Also make sure that the tanker checkbox on the class design screen is checked
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2023, 02:07:16 AM »
The tanker box is indeed checked and I set the minimum fuel to 25,000
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2023, 02:19:26 AM »
Your 'Emergency Refueller' is using a Small Craft Refuelling System, which can only be used to refuel small craft (up to 1000t). The ship you're trying to refuel is above 1000t.

https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=12523.msg158379#msg158379
 
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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2023, 02:31:12 PM »
I resume this topic because I cannot make the refuel system work in this specific case:

I have a 990t shuttle out of fuel and not moving
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ST-01 OV America  (Challenger class Shuttle)      990 tons       23 Crew       105 BP       TCS 20    TH 1    EM 0
50 km/s      Armour 1-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 5      Sensors 0/0/0/0.2      DCR 1-10      PPV 0
Maint Life 8.13 Years     MSP 66    AFR 8%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 2    5YR 27    Max Repair 50 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 6 months    Morale Check Required   

Giberson-Harb Conventional Engine  EP1.00 (1)    Power 1    Fuel Use 39.53%    Signature 1    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 2,000 Litres    Range 0.9 billion km (210 days at full power)

Hibshman Electronic Systems Active Search Sensor AS8-R100 (1)     GPS 200     Range 8.3m km    Resolution 100
Conventional Geological Survey Sensors (1)   0.2 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Survey Ship for auto-assignment purposes

Then I have a 470t fighter size tanker which cannot refuel the shuttle, why? Is it because it is designated as fighter?
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UTS-01 USS Carrabasset  (Bannock class Utility Shuttle)      470 tons       17 Crew       53.7 BP       TCS 9    TH 1    EM 0
106 km/s      Armour 1-5       Shields 0-0       HTK 5      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 1-21      PPV 0
Maint Life 39.10 Years     MSP 71    AFR 2%    IFR 0.0%    1YR 0    5YR 1    Max Repair 20 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Morale Check Required   

Giberson-Harb Conventional Engine  EP1.00 (1)    Power 1    Fuel Use 39.53%    Signature 1    Explosion 5%
Fuel Capacity 55,000 Litres    Range 53.1 billion km (5797 days at full power)
Refuelling Capability: 10,000 litres per hour     Complete Refuel 5 hours

Hibshman Electronic Systems Active Search Sensor AS8-R100 (1)     GPS 200     Range 8.3m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction
This design is classed as a None for auto-assignment purposes
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2023, 02:39:42 PM »
I resume this topic because I cannot make the refuel system work in this specific case:


What command are you using for refuel? Is UTS-01 USS Carrabasset designated as tanker?

Try to give the ST-01 OV America command to refuel from stationary tanker. That is the command that will most likely work.

Fighter designation is automatic, so that has no effect on refueling in this case.
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2023, 03:21:03 PM »
Make sure you've designated the refuelling fighter as a Tanker, by ticking the appropriate box in the top right of the class design window.
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2023, 03:45:40 PM »
The fighter tanker is designated as a tanker, what I noticed is that once it got constructed, it did not have the 10% tank level but it remained full.
When it comes to the order, I tried everything and from both ships.
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2023, 04:19:51 PM »
The fighter tanker is designated as a tanker, what I noticed is that once it got constructed, it did not have the 10% tank level but it remained full.
When it comes to the order, I tried everything and from both ships.
What's its minimum fuel?
 

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Re: Tanker Won't Refuel Fleet
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2023, 12:20:24 PM »
The fighter tanker is designated as a tanker, what I noticed is that once it got constructed, it did not have the 10% tank level but it remained full.
When it comes to the order, I tried everything and from both ships.
What's its minimum fuel?

Thank you It was the minimum fuel that misleaded me. It was automatically set to 28750 that is the 47% of 55000, usually the tankers are set to 10%, here it is where I got misleaded.