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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #555 on: March 22, 2020, 02:22:05 PM »


No, I am dumb and checking every sensor against every ship :)


and here I was, trying to carefully word my previous question to be the least confrontational as possible, but apparently someone is very territorial so I'll leave you be
 

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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #556 on: March 22, 2020, 02:31:26 PM »
Just as well I am still testing. 3 years into the game and I was wondering why I wasn't detecting any NPR ground forces. So I went into designer mode to check and the NPRs didn't have any ground forces - aagh!

Ground forces generation was working for auto-create NPRs, but not those manually created. Fixed now and I will add the ground forces retrospectively to the current campaign.
 
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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #557 on: March 22, 2020, 02:38:49 PM »
No, I am dumb and checking every sensor against every ship :)

and here I was, trying to carefully word my previous question to be the least confrontational as possible, but apparently someone is very territorial so I'll leave you be

Sorry, I've answered the same question, or variations of it, many times so I got a little snippy. I've been working with the detection code for about sixteen years, four of those in C#, so I have tried to optimise it during that time.
 
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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #558 on: March 22, 2020, 08:04:33 PM »
Regarding sensors, while thermal/em/active sensors all tell you something specific and separate, transponders could tell all those things at the same time, and thus be run first and then let the transponder using ship skip the thermal/em/active sensor steps.
 
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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #559 on: March 22, 2020, 09:26:09 PM »
Honestly, I never figured out the point of transponders.
 
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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #560 on: March 22, 2020, 11:29:15 PM »
Honestly, I never figured out the point of transponders.

To advertise one's presence.  To be polite.  To avoid antagonizing others.  To not be mistaken for 'sneaking around'.  Traffic control.  Anti-smuggling & -piracy operations.  Keeping track of commercial shippping.
 

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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #561 on: March 23, 2020, 04:35:53 AM »
Honestly, I never figured out the point of transponders.
Just watch „The Expanse“ 😁
 
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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #562 on: March 24, 2020, 02:32:25 AM »
They're for transponding obviously. Transponders gotta transpond.
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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #563 on: March 24, 2020, 03:25:36 AM »
So that you can feel sneaky when you turn them off.
 

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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #564 on: March 24, 2020, 09:42:47 AM »
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Honestly, I never figured out the point of transponders.
Just watch „The Expanse“ 😁

Or better still, read the books :)
 

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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #565 on: March 24, 2020, 11:45:54 AM »
Or better still, read the books :)

The books are great, but so is the show. I love both.
 

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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #566 on: March 24, 2020, 12:27:41 PM »
Hmmm, transponders, does this make us able to "Cheat", lika a civillian transponder on a warship/Q-ship?
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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #567 on: March 24, 2020, 01:55:25 PM »
Hmmm, transponders, does this make us able to "Cheat", lika a civillian transponder on a warship/Q-ship?

No.

But yes, though probably not in the way you mean.  But no.

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Currently there's no way to hide your class, or broadcast a different class, with your Transponder.  It's a flashlight in a dark room.

But it is a great way to tell everyone where you are, so it can be used to sucker folks into an ambush.  Just be sure you brought a big enough fleet that it's the other folks who get ambushed, not you.
 

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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #568 on: March 25, 2020, 05:55:56 AM »
A ship without transponder activated can't be confirmed to be anyone without accurate sensor reading. It could be potentially abused to strike at a rival faction without revealing yourself, thus leaving the culprit of the attack to remain unconfirmed. You'd have to be really, really careful about it thought, because if the ship used in the attack is identified and then seen flying your colours, the gig is up.
 

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Re: Update on Progress
« Reply #569 on: March 25, 2020, 11:27:35 AM »
A ship without transponder activated can't be confirmed to be anyone without accurate sensor reading. It could be potentially abused to strike at a rival faction without revealing yourself, thus leaving the culprit of the attack to remain unconfirmed. You'd have to be really, really careful about it thought, because if the ship used in the attack is identified and then seen flying your colours, the gig is up.
So like old school privateers.