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New Players => FAQ => Topic started by: sloanjh on January 23, 2010, 10:07:43 AM

Title: Display Issues
Post by: sloanjh on January 23, 2010, 10:07:43 AM
This is the FAQ for problems with the display in Aurora
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: sloanjh on January 23, 2010, 10:39:02 AM
"I can't see the buttons at the bottom of the XXX screen":
"Some of the screens don't fit on my display":
"Aurora assume a display resolution that my laptop/computer doesn't support"
"I can't resize any of the screens"
"Please put scroll bars on the screens so that I can use them on my laptop":
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These are all different forms of the same issue - the screens in Aurora are designed assuming a minium display resolution of 1280x1024, and do not have scroll bars, due to the way Steve decided to implement SA (Starfire Assistant) many years ago.

The workarounds for this if you have a computer that can't support at least 1280x1024 are:

1)  Run some sort of virtual desktop on your machine, which allows the desktop itself (rather than the Aurora windows) to scroll.  Several such solutions have been posted over the years in the forums - you should be able to find them by doing a forum search (upper right corner) on something like "display resolution".  The first thing to do though is look down this thread for posts about particular, working solutions.  If you've searched the forums, tried the solutions that you've found, and they don't work for you (because, for example, you've got a newer operating system like Vista) then you can post a question to "The Academy" (the thread for new users) asking if anyone else has a scrolling solution for your particular configuration - if it works then please post it to this thread.

2)  Run on a supported configuration/Buy new equipment.  This is not meant to be a facetious suggestion.  It is meant to indicate that this issue has come up repeatedly over the years, and it is non-negotiable.  At present, Steve has no plans to change Aurora to accomodate users who do not use one of the two workarounds listed here.  Aurora is a game that Steve wrote primarily for his own enjoyment, and is provided free and "as-is".  Steve feels no obligation to make changes when he feels that reasonable workarounds are present, nor is gaining a large user base for Aurora one of his primary goals.  Please do not make posts suggesting how easy this would be to fix, complaining that this is an unreasonable or foolish policy, threatening not to play the game if this is not fixed, etc. - they will not produce a policy change on this issue.

The reason I am being so blunt in item #2 above is that this issue has come up repeatedly on the board, with the same answer each time.  I'm trying to get across the point "please don't go there".

CURRENT PLAYERS - Could people who are currently running with some sort of "virtual desktop" (or other) solution please post the details on how to get it working and what OS they're using in replies below?
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Hawkeye on January 23, 2010, 11:19:39 AM
In XP, a "floating desktop" is already built in but it does carry a warning from Microsoft so you will have to decide if this is worth trying. Go to the screen where you set your resolution. Select the Advanced button and then select the Monitor tab. There is a checkbox which reads "Hide modes that this monitor cannot display". If you uncheck this box, you can set resolution to anything your graphics card can handle. If this resolution is higher than what your monitor can display, whenever your mouse pointer reaches the edge of your screen, the whole screen will scroll in that direction.

I am using this since I discovered Aurora with no problems at all
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: sloanjh on January 23, 2010, 11:40:20 AM
"One of my screens has disappeared!! Help!!!!":
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Aurora remembers the position of some of the screens in its DB.  This can lead to problems when the remembered screen is off the screen (or minimized in older versions).  To fix it:

1)  Close all windows (or restart Aurora)
2)  Use the Reset Window Positions option on the Miscellaneous menu on the main menu bar
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Father Tim on January 24, 2010, 06:32:25 AM
"Help, I'm running Aurora on Linix through Wine, and the font on some windows, such as the (F9) System window, is illegibly tiny."

Aurora use the Tahoma (tahoma.ttf) font, which in Wine displays much smaller than intended.  Download a larger copy (~200KB) from a trusted site.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: welchbloke on January 25, 2010, 05:55:06 AM
For both Vista and Windows 7 a program called Resize Enable can be used.  This allows you to grab the edges of the windows and drag them to a suitable size. Resize Enable then tries to move allow the objects in the window so that they are all visible.  This can cause so odd display effects but with a little practise usable configurations are possible. For both Vista and Windows 7 Resize Enable has to be run using the 'Run as Administrator' option.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Erik L on February 02, 2010, 02:13:44 PM
Updated download link for sdesk.

http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.asp ... ntent;col1 (http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?scname=Virtual+Desktop+Managers&docid=678063&tag=content;col1)
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: niabaAurora on February 22, 2010, 12:12:37 PM
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I also have a 1440x900 monitor and I can play (quite) well using resize enable and SDesk. On WinXP.

  • Open both programs, set SDesk to 1 desktop wide by 2 desktops tall.
  • Any maximized windows should be locked or they'll misbehave (win+down arrow).
  • Any windows that are too large to fit on the screen can be viewed by moving the desktop up and down with SDesk (middle mouse on the "toolwin").
  • Any windows that automatically resized and have their bottoms cut off can be fixed by grabbing the bottom edge and pulling UP by a few pixels and and back down again. The more pixels you move it the less the window contents will be resized (real funky I know) - you'll have to practice this yourself and judge how much movement each window needs.
  • This trick only works once for each window so if you mucked it up close and try again.
  • Windows that you resize will look odd. Text boxes resize but labels don't, they'll be mismatched and some wont show.


I hope this helps.

Reposted by request. Hopefully in the right place.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2010, 02:30:08 PM
When I start up the game, no graphics are displayed in the window. I see the toolbar, but the window is empty.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Nabobalis on February 25, 2010, 03:37:27 PM
Quote from: "gamegreen33"
When I start up the game, no graphics are displayed in the window. I see the toolbar, but the window is empty.

Press F3.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Anonymous on February 25, 2010, 11:53:24 PM
Quote from: "Nabobalis"
Quote from: "gamegreen33"
When I start up the game, no graphics are displayed in the window. I see the toolbar, but the window is empty.

Press F3.
Thanks for the help, man! That fixed it.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: ShadoCat on August 08, 2010, 02:30:11 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
Updated download link for sdesk.

http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.asp ... ntent;col1 (http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?scname=Virtual+Desktop+Managers&docid=678063&tag=content;col1)

Erik,

I just got a Win7 laptop with a 1366x768 display.

I'm trying out SDesk but it doesn't seem to do anything but sitting there (no scrolling, etc.).

Moving the mouse to an edge doesn't do anything.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Erik L on August 08, 2010, 05:50:29 PM
Quote from: "ShadoCat"
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
Updated download link for sdesk.

http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.asp ... ntent;col1 (http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?scname=Virtual+Desktop+Managers&docid=678063&tag=content;col1)

Erik,

I just got a Win7 laptop with a 1366x768 display.

I'm trying out SDesk but it doesn't seem to do anything but sitting there (no scrolling, etc.).

Moving the mouse to an edge doesn't do anything.

I only ever got sdesk to scroll side to side, which is not very useful for Aurora.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: ShadoCat on August 09, 2010, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
I only ever got sdesk to scroll side to side, which is not very useful for Aurora.

That's better than me but still not helpful.  In fact there seem to be a lot of side scrollers out there.  I haven't found any that do vertical scrolling.  <sigh>

I guess that there's a reason to keep my old, 15 minutes to fully boot, computer around.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Zorgn on August 09, 2010, 06:01:58 PM
I found a combination of Resize Enable (http://www.digitallis.co.uk/pc/downloads.html) and GiMeSpace (http://sites.google.com/site/gimespace/home/desktop-extender-edition) allowed me to scroll up and down on my 1280x800 monitor. It's a bit awkward at times, but it beats hooking my laptop to my CRT monitor.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: ShadoCat on September 27, 2010, 03:19:08 PM
I found a combination of Resize Enable (http://www.digitallis.co.uk/pc/downloads.html) and GiMeSpace (http://sites.google.com/site/gimespace/home/desktop-extender-edition) allowed me to scroll up and down on my 1280x800 monitor. It's a bit awkward at times, but it beats hooking my laptop to my CRT monitor.

I just tried GiMeSpace and my AV flagged the dll as infected.

Now, their site seems to be down.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Nistenf on December 08, 2010, 07:21:24 PM
I can't seem to make it work.  I can scroll down with GiMe Space and sdesk but when I resize the window it will just get bigger and the icons inside reorganized, now allowing me to see the icons on the bottom of the screen
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: oleg on January 28, 2011, 03:06:56 PM
Hi,

Just tried to install a copy of Aurora on a win 7 64 bit system, resolution is 1680 x 1050.  Textsize is set to smaller (in appearance and personalization -> display).

I have been browsing through posts and checking settings but I can't get rid of the texts not fitting to buttons or frames.  (see attachment).

Anybody any ideas? (No problem to use "obviously" when replying ;D)

Thanks,

Oleg
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Erik L on January 28, 2011, 04:06:22 PM
I'm on Win7 64bit also, and don't have that issue.

Check under Control Panel -> Display, Set Custom text size (DPI). See if it's greater than 100%
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: oleg on January 29, 2011, 12:34:32 PM
It's set at 100% and "use windows xp style dpi scaling" is checked.  Unchecking does not make a difference.

It's like the text can't be resized to less pixels per inch although the application and the window sizes are.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: oleg on January 29, 2011, 01:03:11 PM
Just set it to 125% and now the windows/ frames are increased and the text is fitting again.  Doesn't make me happy but okay.

It looks like the text can't be downsized any further although the aurora windows can!
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Zerox on March 13, 2011, 05:18:00 PM
Aaaaargh
Window resizing doesn't work for me.
I have it set to resize windows but they always open with buttons cut off anyway.
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: deMangler on December 27, 2011, 02:00:10 PM
Tried the solutions suggested here but not a lot of Joy (Win7 x64 on one of those 1366x768 Laptops).   ResizeEnable works but just kind of moves the problem around. 
A solution, which I am sure must have been tried by others, but I have not seen mentioned in this thread, which works perfectly for me, is to run XP in a virtual machine on VMWare and set the screen resolution to something useful.   
I don't know if other virtual machines work as haven't tried it.   I did not find any usable virtual desktop software, so a VM it is. 

So, My workaround - VMWare VM with useful resolution, works perfectly, no issues. 
 
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Trent on January 18, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
I just try Sdesk with Resize enable, but I can't resize windows beyond my standard screen size (which is also 1366x768).   

I will try your solution, deMangler, which seem to be the best.    (I will edit my post to tell you if it work for me or not).   

EDIT : I download VMware player and tried it.   The problem is that, I don't know which virtual appliance to use, and I have no ovf version of xp, just a CD of a old version of windows xp (and I think that there is no ovf version).   Can you tell me how you made your virtual machine with VMware ?
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: deMangler on January 20, 2012, 04:38:01 AM
Quote from: Trent link=topic=2033.   msg45576#msg45576 date=1326929097
I just try Sdesk with Resize enable, but I can't resize windows beyond my standard screen size (which is also 1366x768).      

I will try your solution, deMangler, which seem to be the best.       (I will edit my post to tell you if it work for me or not).      

EDIT : I download VMware player and tried it.      The problem is that, I don't know which virtual appliance to use, and I have no ovf version of xp, just a CD of a old version of windows xp (and I think that there is no ovf version).      Can you tell me how you made your virtual machine with VMware ?

Hi,
I installed mine from an iso of an xp installation disk I had kept as a backup.    I remember it being pretty straight-forward.    A physical disk would work just as well.  
If my memory serves, there are sites that have scripts to help you make a vmx file for your machine, then make or download a vmdk (virtual hdd) and boot up your VM with an xp iso in the virtual cd drive set to boot and install as you would with a physical machine.  
I just googled and found some good howtos, but I can't post links here yet.    Just go for it - looks like not having a bootable copy of xp would be your biggest problem.  

Good luck - I would be happy to help more but I am no expert.  
:)
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: Trent on March 06, 2012, 04:39:51 PM
Thank you for your help deMangler, but I use an other virtual machine call "Microsoft virtual machine" available freely here : hxxp: www. clubic. com/lancer-le-telechargement-256894-0-microsoft-virtual-pc-sp1-2007. html  (sorry, I am french, so I have a french link, but it's quite simple, click on "lancé le téléchargement" which mean "launch the downloader", then you just have to instal it as an other software).  It's totaly free.

It propose you to create a virtual machine which will have characteristics near the exploitation system you want (for exemple, if you want windows xp, you will nead at least 128 Mo of RAM and 60 Go of hard drive (I think not necessary, it's just an advice.  I use only 20 Go, and it's quite enough)).  After it, you have to instal your system in it.  No need to create a vmd or ISO or something else if you have a CD.

I thought it's easier, but it's just my feeling.  It depend on what is more intuitive or not, for you.

Now, it work very well.  1280x1080 (somthing like this) with a beautifull scroll bar (not really, but it was what I waited for, and this solution give me it, so I am happy about it) which allow me to see what I could not see before.   I had just a problem with a dll forgotten (error 743, if I remember.  I was not able to use the F9 windows), but I solve it here with a strange way, but it work well now (thank you, you are a really good community, it's pleasant to have such help like this ^^)

So, it'll be good for people who will have the same problem to have multiple solutions.  If one doesn't work, maybe an other will work, and if one is too difficult, an other will be easier.

Thank you again.

P. S.  : just one question.  Is it important to have protection on the virtual machine (I mean firewall and antivirus), without direct connection on internet ? (I mean, the only way is my real PC which have these protection with the connection)
Title: Re: Display Issues
Post by: xeryon on March 06, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
If you are connecting to the internet from within the VM then you will need antivirus.  The built in windows XP firewall will be sufficient as long as your XP updates are current and you are not opening a browser or email within the VM.