Naval Ships of Pyke's Republic

[strych90 (OP)]

So this is the first game that I'm really trying to take seriously. I made a custom start with a moderately nice system with 3-5 planets that could be terraformed.  I waited for Ion before even starting to explore. There are my naval ships 25 years in (I'm about to seriously upgrade engines to MPD with much higher efficiency tech to boot).

Any comments, concerns or thoughts?

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DD Aegis class Destroyer Escort    9,000 tons     171 Crew     1571 BP      TCS 180  TH 720  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 3-38     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 9
Maint Life 2.62 Years     MSP 545    AFR 129%    IFR 1.8%    1YR 112    5YR 1680    Max Repair 280 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 3    
Magazine 489    

Longo Mil-1 IE-180 (4)    Power 180    Fuel Use 51%    Signature 180    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,650,000 Litres    Range 64.7 billion km   (187 days at full power)

Shotgun AMML-1 (9)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
AMMFC 3hs 3mkm (3)     Range 27.7m km    Resolution 1
Shrike-1 AMM-1 (489)  Speed: 28,800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 3.2m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 172/103/51

AMMSR 10hs 3.3mkm (1)     GPS 280     Range 30.8m km    Resolution 1

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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DD Legatus class Destroyer Leader    9,000 tons     202 Crew     1567 BP      TCS 180  TH 720  EM 0
4000 km/s    JR 5-50     Armour 3-38     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 0
Maint Life 2.4 Years     MSP 544    AFR 129%    IFR 1.8%    1YR 130    5YR 1943    Max Repair 280 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1    

J9000(5-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 9000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 5
Longo Mil-1 IE-180 (4)    Power 180    Fuel Use 51%    Signature 180    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,700,000 Litres    Range 66.7 billion km   (192 days at full power)

AMMSR 10hs 3.3mkm (1)     GPS 280     Range 30.8m km    Resolution 1
ASR 300mkm 10hs 100hsm (1)     GPS 28000     Range 308.0m km    Resolution 100

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

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DD Trident class Missile Destroyer    9,000 tons     184 Crew     1237 BP      TCS 180  TH 720  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 3-38     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 24
Maint Life 2.91 Years     MSP 430    AFR 129%    IFR 1.8%    1YR 75    5YR 1124    Max Repair 90 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1    
Magazine 504    

Longo Mil-1 IE-180 (4)    Power 180    Fuel Use 51%    Signature 180    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 1,700,000 Litres    Range 66.7 billion km   (192 days at full power)

Ballista ASML-4 (6)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
ASMFC 1.4hs 91mkm (2)     Range 91.5m km    Resolution 50
Javelin-1 LRASM-4 (126)  Speed: 12,000 km/s   End: 121.6m    Range: 87.5m km   WH: 9    Size: 4    TH: 56/33/16

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Those 3 operate in squadrons of 5, 1 Legatus, 2 Trident, 2 Aegis

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CVE Nimitz class Escort Carrier    30,000 tons     372 Crew     3862.4 BP      TCS 600  TH 1800  EM 0
3000 km/s     Armour 3-86     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 0
Maint Life 3.75 Years     MSP 11644    AFR 900%    IFR 12.5%    1YR 1296    5YR 19434    Max Repair 560 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 51    
Hangar Deck Capacity 5000 tons     Magazine 1200    

Longo Mil-1 IE-180 (10)    Power 180    Fuel Use 51%    Signature 180    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 6,700,000 Litres    Range 78.8 billion km   (304 days at full power)

Asagai-1 SRFBASM (300)  Speed: 12,000 km/s   End: 20.3m    Range: 14.6m km   WH: 9    Size: 4    TH: 64/38/19

Carrier ASR 600mkm 2hHS (1)     GPS 56000     Range 616.0m km    Resolution 100

Strike Group
10x FTR Cobra Fighter-bomber   Speed: 10105 km/s    Size: 9.5

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
Carrying:

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FTR Cobra class Fighter-bomber    475 tons     5 Crew     93 BP      TCS 9.5  TH 96  EM 0
10105 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3.6
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 95%    IFR 1.3%    1YR 3    5YR 50    Max Repair 12 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.5 months    Spare Berths 1    
Magazine 24    

Longo Fighter Engine 1 IE-24 (4)    Power 24    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 24    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 40,000 Litres    Range 4.5 billion km   (5 days at full power)

Wraith Box Launcher (6)    Missile Size 4    Hangar Reload 30 minutes    MF Reload 5 hours
FRTMFC 17mkm (1)     Range 17.5m km    Resolution 40
Asagai-1 SRFBASM (6)  Speed: 12,000 km/s   End: 20.3m    Range: 14.6m km   WH: 9    Size: 4    TH: 64/38/19

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
Escorted By 1:

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CE Scipio class Escort Cruiser    30,000 tons     654 Crew     5035 BP      TCS 600  TH 1800  EM 0
3000 km/s    JR 5-50     Armour 2-86     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 10     PPV 93.96
Maint Life 2.06 Years     MSP 2049    AFR 720%    IFR 10%    1YR 645    5YR 9670    Max Repair 307 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1    
Magazine 753    

J9000(5-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 9000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 5
Longo Mil-1 IE-180 (10)    Power 180    Fuel Use 51%    Signature 180    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 6,550,000 Litres    Range 77.1 billion km   (297 days at full power)

Triple 10cm C4 Ultraviolet Laser Turret (4x3)    Range 120,000km     TS: 30000 km/s     Power 9-12     RM 4    ROF 5        3 3 3 3 2 2 1 1 1 1
Fire Control S16 128-16000 (2)    Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
24 EOP GCFRT (2)     Total Power Output 54    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Shotgun AMML-1 (9)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Ballista ASML-4 (6)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
ASMFC 1.4hs 91mkm (2)     Range 91.5m km    Resolution 50
AMMFC 3hs 3mkm (3)     Range 27.7m km    Resolution 1
Javelin-1 LRASM-4 (123)  Speed: 12,000 km/s   End: 121.6m    Range: 87.5m km   WH: 9    Size: 4    TH: 56/33/16
Shrike-1 AMM-1 (260)  Speed: 28,800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 3.2m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 172/103/51

AMMSR 10hs 3.3mkm (1)     GPS 280     Range 30.8m km    Resolution 1
ASR 300mkm 10hs 100hsm (1)     GPS 28000     Range 308.0m km    Resolution 100

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
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CA Mythic class Heavy Cruiser    29,550 tons     567 Crew     4845.6 BP      TCS 591  TH 1800  EM 0
3045 km/s     Armour 5-85     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 10     PPV 82.48
Maint Life 2.28 Years     MSP 2025    AFR 698%    IFR 9.7%    1YR 528    5YR 7923    Max Repair 307 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0    
Magazine 1252    

Longo Mil-1 IE-180 (10)    Power 180    Fuel Use 51%    Signature 180    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 6,550,000 Litres    Range 78.2 billion km   (297 days at full power)

Triple 10cm C4 Ultraviolet Laser Turret (2x3)    Range 120,000km     TS: 30000 km/s     Power 9-12     RM 4    ROF 5        3 3 3 3 2 2 1 1 1 1
Fire Control S16 128-16000 (1)    Max Range: 256,000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
24 EOP GCFRT (1)     Total Power Output 27    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Ballista ASML-4 (10)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Shotgun AMML-1 (12)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
ASMFC 1.4hs 91mkm (2)     Range 91.5m km    Resolution 50
AMMFC 3hs 3mkm (4)     Range 27.7m km    Resolution 1
Javelin-1 LRASM-4 (223)  Speed: 12,000 km/s   End: 121.6m    Range: 87.5m km   WH: 9    Size: 4    TH: 56/33/16
Shrike-1 AMM-1 (360)  Speed: 28,800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 3.2m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 172/103/51

AMMSR 10hs 3.3mkm (1)     GPS 280     Range 30.8m km    Resolution 1
ASR 300mkm 10hs 100hsm (1)     GPS 28000     Range 308.0m km    Resolution 100

And 1 or 2 DDE Aegis.

I currently have one CarrierRon and 3 DesRon, and have yet to run into any NPR or Spoilers. No plans to expand my navy without running into something, excepting maybe a couple of yet-to-be-designed fast frigate problems

[Shaitan]

My first thought would be to use the 450 tons below jump capacity on the Mythic to squeeze in some passive sensors. I notice the fleet seems to lack them entirely, do you just run hot as standard or is there another platform providing passive sensor coverage for when you want to keep things quiet?

[Jumpp]

I'd look at reducing their fuel loads.  You've got 1,700 tons of fuel on those 9,000-ton destroyers.  If you cut your range to 1/3 of what it is now, you could carry a lot more payload.  If you find yourself operating more than a jump or two from home, you can easily extend your range with fuel depots at key systems.

[strych90 (OP)]

My first thought would be to use the 450 tons below jump capacity on the Mythic to squeeze in some passive sensors. I notice the fleet seems to lack them entirely, do you just run hot as standard or is there another platform providing passive sensor coverage for when you want to keep things quiet?

I actually have to update the mythic because I got some new armor that made it a lot lighter between that build and posting it, and forgot to update it like I did the others. And I dislike passives. The mythic rides along, as of now, with my carriers, which have huge 800mkm range actives that I keep hot whenever entering uncertain systems. It makes me a lot less stealthy (infinitely less...) but I've never been snuck up on. I think I might do a stealthier version of the Mythic and Scipio with big passives and stealth engines and slightly less armor to run heavy force recon in hostile systems.

I'd look at reducing their fuel loads.  You've got 1,700 tons of fuel on those 9,000-ton destroyers.  If you cut your range to 1/3 of what it is now, you could carry a lot more payload.  If you find yourself operating more than a jump or two from home, you can easily extend your range with fuel depots at key systems.

The reason I went so heavy on the fuel is because I'm operating without tankers right now. I'm currently building some HUGE tankers to create fuel dumps in key systems, and am planning to reduce the fuel loads when I do my engine redesigns for MPD.
I also learned that one of my shortfalls as a commander is remembering to refuel my military units while they're on/in between maneuvers, So I decided to pad the fuel bunkers on my first designs to buffer my forgetfulness.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

[clement]

The Scipio cruiser is equipped with a jump drive capable of handling only a 9000 ton ship, it will not be able to jump itself or the carrier.

[strych90 (OP)]

ahhhh crap. I added the wrong one X.x I had wondered why it took up suspiciously little space

[Shininglight]

I have to agree with the third poster, remove a bunch of fuel storage, i usually give ALL of my military ships larger than a FAC a total of 1,000,000 litres, usually gives me about 64 days of movement at top speed with the number of engines i cram into all of my ships ( at Ion tech my escort destroyers had a max accel of 5495 Kp/s).

 Otherwise the designs seem nice, though i advise designing a class of destroyer with pure energy anti-missile armament to double as a close range combatant while still retaining anti-missile weapons capability. I used that method and it's saved my fleet a few times, usually when i go up against  Starspoilerswarm and it's served me well.