Prussian Navy - good enough for WH spoilers?

[CharonJr (OP)]

Hi,

in my resent game I have already meet a couple of WH-spoiler race ships, but always just two of them at a time was basically able to beat them by expending all of the missiles of one of my (carrier) task forces against them.

Now one of my jumpships entered a new system and was promptly blown to pieces by 7 WH-spoiler ships (mainly missile based it seems, the previous once were beam beased which surely did help in getting rid of them).

Any idea if my current navy (shown below) should be able to handle 7 of those spoiler ships?


The Königlich Preussische Marine (KPM - Royal Prussian Navy) is largely carrier based, but essentially the carriers are just glorified mobile hangars.  The only exception is the flagship of each taskforce (currently there are 2 taskforces with a 3rd under construction).

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Bismarck Mk2 class Flugzeugträger    20 000 tons     334 Crew     3237.8 BP      TCS 400  TH 1600  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 4-65     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.3 Years     MSP 708    AFR 457%    IFR 6.3%    1YR 442    5YR 6635    Max Repair 216 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 67   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 7000 tons     Magazine 960   

200 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (8)    Power 200    Fuel Use 110.05%    Signature 200    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 2 085 000 Litres    Range 17.1 billion km   (49 days at full power)

Hellfire6-32/67 (160)  Speed: 32 000 km/s   End: 57.4m    Range: 110.2m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 224/134/67

Active Search Sensor MR300-R160 (1)     GPS 34560     Range 300.5m km    Resolution 160
Active Search Sensor MR18-R1 (1)     GPS 168     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor MR100-R18 (1)     GPS 3888     Range 100.8m km    Resolution 18

Strike Group
14x Ju-87C Bomber   Speed: 6400 km/s    Size: 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Each Bismarck is accompanied by 2 Graf Zeppelin class carriers

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Graf Zeppelin Mk4 class Flugzeugträger    15 000 tons     241 Crew     2105.2 BP      TCS 300  TH 1200  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 4-54     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.16 Years     MSP 439    AFR 360%    IFR 5%    1YR 334    5YR 5005    Max Repair 150 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 49   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 6000 tons     Magazine 720   

200 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (6)    Power 200    Fuel Use 110.05%    Signature 200    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 330 000 Litres    Range 14.5 billion km   (41 days at full power)

Hellfire6-32/67 (160)  Speed: 32 000 km/s   End: 57.4m    Range: 110.2m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 224/134/67

Strike Group
11x Ju-87C Bomber   Speed: 6400 km/s    Size: 10
1x Fi-156A Mk2 Aufklärer   Speed: 7272 km/s    Size: 8.8

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

and 2 Seydlitz class escort carriers

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Seydlitz Mk3 class Begleitträger    10 000 tons     157 Crew     1339.1 BP      TCS 200  TH 800  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 3-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.4 Years     MSP 314    AFR 213%    IFR 3%    1YR 174    5YR 2612    Max Repair 100 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 43   
Hangar Deck Capacity 5000 tons     Magazine 240   

200 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (4)    Power 200    Fuel Use 110.05%    Signature 200    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 785 000 Litres    Range 12.8 billion km   (37 days at full power)

Hellfire6-32/67 (40)  Speed: 32 000 km/s   End: 57.4m    Range: 110.2m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 224/134/67

Strike Group
7x FW-190B Fighter   Speed: 10322 km/s    Size: 9.3
1x Fi-156AS Mk2 Aufklärer   Speed: 7272 km/s    Size: 8.8
1x Fi-156AK Mk2 Aufklärer   Speed: 7272 km/s    Size: 8.8
2x Drone Mk2 Fighter   Speed: 15238 km/s    Size: 8.4

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Only one of the Seydlitz escorts has the strike craft mentioned above, the second one has 10 Me-109C fighters (more about those later) and no recon craft - the missiles are resupplies for the bombers/missile cruisers.

In addition each taskforce has 2 Scharnhorst missile cruisers

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Scharnhorst Mk4 class Raketenkreuzer    10 000 tons     317 Crew     1812.6 BP      TCS 200  TH 800  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 4-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 3     PPV 72
Maint Life 1.42 Years     MSP 340    AFR 266%    IFR 3.7%    1YR 185    5YR 2778    Max Repair 144 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 552   

200 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (4)    Power 200    Fuel Use 110.05%    Signature 200    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 880 000 Litres    Range 14.4 billion km   (41 days at full power)

Size 6 Missile Launcher (12)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 45
Missile Fire Control FC201-R18 (2)     Range 201.6m km    Resolution 18
Hellfire6-32/67 (92)  Speed: 32 000 km/s   End: 57.4m    Range: 110.2m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 224/134/67

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

2 Kobra missile based anti-missile destroyers (mostly unused till now, but they hopefully will be able to thin out the large number of spoiler missiles)

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Kobra Mk3 class Anti-Raktenzerstörer    5 000 tons     150 Crew     817.9 BP      TCS 100  TH 400  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 3-26     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 30
Maint Life 1.33 Years     MSP 128    AFR 160%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 77    5YR 1153    Max Repair 100 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 2   
Magazine 270   

200 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 200    Fuel Use 110.05%    Signature 200    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 395 000 Litres    Range 12.9 billion km   (37 days at full power)

Size 1 Missile Launcher (30)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC21-R1 (2)     Range 21.1m km    Resolution 1
Sidewinder1-32/96 (270)  Speed: 32 000 km/s   End: 5.1m    Range: 9.7m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 320/192/96

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

and finally 2 Mungo gauss based anti-missile destroyers

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Mungo Mk2 class Anti-Raktenzerstörer    5 000 tons     111 Crew     859.6 BP      TCS 100  TH 400  EM 0
4000 km/s     Armour 2-26     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 58
Maint Life 1.32 Years     MSP 161    AFR 133%    IFR 1.9%    1YR 98    5YR 1468    Max Repair 100 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0   

200 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 200    Fuel Use 110.05%    Signature 200    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 405 000 Litres    Range 13.2 billion km   (38 days at full power)

Quad Gauss Cannon R3-33 Turret (5x16)    Range 30 000km     TS: 25000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 20-20000 (1)    Max Range: 40 000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
(currently working on the next level of tracking speed at the moment, but it will take a while before Mk3 will be ready)

Carrier based fighters:

Since only the Bismarcks have active sensors (which are usually turned off) the KPM relies on small recon craft to provide target information.  Depending on the enemy they will either stay on their carriers or join/follow the fighters/bombers towards the enemy.  Currently there are 3 different recon planes (based on range).

Short range (Res 1):

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Fi-156AK Mk2 class Aufklärer    440 tons     9 Crew     209.8 BP      TCS 8.8  TH 64  EM 0
7272 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.52 Years     MSP 30    AFR 15%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 15    5YR 220    Max Repair 168 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0   

32 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 32    Fuel Use 392.02%    Signature 32    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.0 billion km   (39 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR18-R1 (1)     GPS 168     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Medium range (Res 18):

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Fi-156AS Mk2 class Aufklärer    440 tons     9 Crew     257.8 BP      TCS 8.8  TH 64  EM 0
7272 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.49 Years     MSP 37    AFR 15%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 19    5YR 280    Max Repair 216 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0   

32 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 32    Fuel Use 392.02%    Signature 32    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.0 billion km   (39 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR100-R18 (1)     GPS 3888     Range 100.8m km    Resolution 18

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Long range (Res 160):

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Fi-156A Mk2 class Aufklärer    440 tons     9 Crew     257.8 BP      TCS 8.8  TH 64  EM 0
7272 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.49 Years     MSP 37    AFR 15%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 19    5YR 280    Max Repair 216 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0   

32 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 32    Fuel Use 392.02%    Signature 32    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.0 billion km   (39 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR300-R160 (1)     GPS 34560     Range 300.5m km    Resolution 160

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


The fighters are either used as missile protection for the fleet/bombers or to finish of heavily damaged enemies ships or unarmed transports.  The beam fighters should be able to keep the other spoiler race in check (have not meet them in this game yet) and attack ground troups on low atmoshpere planets (took quite some shots - at 1 damage each -  but it did work fairly well in the end).

FW-190B beam fighter/bomber:

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FW-190B class Fighter    465 tons     4 Crew     172.8 BP      TCS 9.3  TH 96  EM 0
10322 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3
Maint Life 2.95 Years     MSP 23    AFR 17%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 4    5YR 59    Max Repair 60 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 6   

32 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (3)    Power 32    Fuel Use 392.02%    Signature 32    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 25 000 Litres    Range 2.5 billion km   (66 hours at full power)

15cm C1.25 Far Ultraviolet Laser (1)    Range 300 000km     TS: 10322 km/s     Power 6-1.25     RM 5    ROF 25        6 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 3 3
Fire Control S02 160-2500 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 320 000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 1.6    Armour 0    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Me-109C (should be Bf really, but I prefer Me ) gauss fighter:

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Me-109C class Fighter    465 tons     9 Crew     120.8 BP      TCS 9.3  TH 128  EM 0
13763 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4
Maint Life 3.44 Years     MSP 16    AFR 17%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 2    5YR 31    Max Repair 16 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0   

32 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (4)    Power 32    Fuel Use 392.02%    Signature 32    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.0 billion km   (19 hours at full power)

Gauss Cannon R3-33 (2x4)    Range 30 000km     TS: 13763 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 33%     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S00.5 20-5000 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 40 000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

And finally the bomber, the 6x6 box missile based Ju-87C:

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Ju-87C class Bomber    500 tons     5 Crew     128.6 BP      TCS 10  TH 64  EM 0
6400 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 5.4
Maint Life 2.89 Years     MSP 16    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 3    5YR 42    Max Repair 65 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.5 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 36   

32 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 32    Fuel Use 392.02%    Signature 32    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 5 000 Litres    Range 0.5 billion km   (19 hours at full power)

Size 6 Box Launcher (6)    Missile Size 6    Hangar Reload 45 minutes    MF Reload 7.5 hours
Missile Fire Control FC213-R100 (1)     Range 213.8m km    Resolution 100
Hellfire6-32/67 (6)  Speed: 32 000 km/s   End: 57.4m    Range: 110.2m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 224/134/67

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Each taskforce has usually 2 tankers and 2 colliers following around (at a speed of just 3k) and those will stay on the safe side of a jump-point/gate to provide resupply.

As can be seem there are no jumpships here - actually the only jump capable class in the KPM is the 6k ton Berlin explorer, mainly used to explore new jump points and also being used as a search and rescue ship at a speed of 6. 7k and with a 1,000 cryo bay.

4 jump gate builers (in addition to the helpfull NPRs) are essentially providing all the gates I could even want.

But this poses some real problems if the jump-exit is guarded by enemy ships (like it is the case now).

Normally the KPM has 2 special ships to deal with those defenders.  First (mainly used if beam based enemies are expected is the Drone, a a fast decent armored fighter who's job it is to lure the enemies away for the jump exit, thus enableing the taskforce to jump into the system without facing initial opposition till the sensors/weapons are back online).

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Drone Mk2 class Fighter    420 tons     2 Crew     111.6 BP      TCS 8.4  TH 128  EM 0
15238 km/s     Armour 6-4     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 4.47 Years     MSP 17    AFR 14%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 1    5YR 21    Max Repair 16 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 8   

32 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (4)    Power 32    Fuel Use 392.02%    Signature 32    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 5 000 Litres    Range 0.5 billion km   (9 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR6-R18 (1)     GPS 260     Range 6.7m km    Resolution 18

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes
The active sensor is both for taking a look around and to lure enemies which might be close to the jump-point to close the range/attack.  Essentially - as the name Drone implies - those fighters are fast/cheap to build and considered expendable.  Each taskforce has 2 of those.

For missile based/larger/more advanced opponents there is a heavier version of the Drone which is usually not part of the taskforce but called whenever needed.  The current situation with the WH-spoilers  camping at the other side of the gate and being missile based will have me use those.

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Schwere Drone Mk2 class Drone    2 500 tons     35 Crew     544.3 BP      TCS 50  TH 400  EM 0
8000 km/s     Armour 16-16     Shields 0-0     Sensors 8/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 0.95 Years     MSP 61    AFR 111%    IFR 1.5%    1YR 64    5YR 960    Max Repair 100 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 6 months    Spare Berths 0   

200 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (2)    Power 200    Fuel Use 110.05%    Signature 200    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 215 000 Litres    Range 14.1 billion km   (20 days at full power)

Thermal Sensor TH1-8 (1)     Sensitivity 8     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  8m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
It should be able to outrun most large beam ships and its heavy armor might allow it to survive a couple of hits from normal missiles (most likely not from my spoiler friends).  Vs.  the spoilers I will most likely use 2 heavy and 2 light drones, hoping to pull away any beam ships and buying my main fleet enough time to fire their missiles and either stay in system or jump back to safety once the missile have hit.

I would appreciate any comments on those designs and especially if you think that 1 or (more likely) 2 of those CTFs might have a chance vs.  those 7 WH-spoiler ships.  Since they seem to be largely missile based I am fairly optimistic actually (due to the fairly large number of anti-missile ships/fighters), but just 2 beam based ships - or backup beams on those missile ships - could quickly ruin my day.

[Varee]

Hi i am not very experience but i have met a similar situation before, form what i see you should be ale to take down the enermy but you might take some heavy damage. Your pd missile ship is equip to take down most mid-long range missle but i think your gauss ship need more fc to hadle all those turret also you might need a sensor on board too. Your beam bomber/fighter will most likely be shot down by amm if you try apporch the enermy so that might not be extreme effective. Also you might want to armor up your fighters abit so they wont be shot down by amms.

[icecoldblood]

Generally fighters aren't armored because
1. They're pretty cheap
2. Their main advantage is that they're small and fast
This applies for bomber fighters as well.

Now for your ships. The carriers seem good, though you might want some more armor or shields. The fuel isn't very good. Remember that you are also stocking fuel for the strike group and you won't always have a tanker nearby when the enemy appears. Your destroyers and cruisers seem fine.

Might be wrong on the fuel thing. Haven't used carriers since 6.0.

[Hawkeye]

Are we realy talking about wormhole aliens (i.e. Invaders) or regular spoilers (i.e. Precursors)?

Against Precursors, your setup should do fine, against Invaders (though I have not played with them since 6.0) you will get your head handed to you.

Yes, Invaders are insanely powerful at low/mid tech level.

[CharonJr (OP)]

Thx for the feedback. 

Concerning the additional FC for the gauss ship - I was under the (potentially wrong) impression that for final defensive fire it does not matter which flight the missiles were originally from, the weapons will target all enemy missiles even if they only have one fire control.   Is this correct, or will my gauss turrets basically be limited to engaging just 1 flight of missiles?

Fuel has not been a problem yet, but before entering a system where I will most likely face enemies I usually wait for my tankers/colliers to catch up to top up my fuel/ordonance.   But having had no problems might be due to me essentially waiting for the enemies to come to me instead of seeking them.   This might not be possible all the time, but at the moment my main problem is that I can't see where to make some room for extra fuel/armor. 

Armor is actually a bigger worry for me at the moment.   With the "fighter combat bug" all my fighters are basically guaranteed to kill tons of missiles (600% to-hit chance before wepon modifications are fairly common), due to this usually none of my main ships is even getting a dent in its armor (except for the bug I keep running into where some of the fighters in a flight will not fire on approaching missiles while others in the same squad do shoot). 

But with both - fuel and armor - the only way I see at the moment would be to lower speed in order to make some room here and I am not sure if this is worth it - any ideas?

And concerning the aliens, yes, WH aliens for sure, I met the regular spoilers earlier, giving me a decent tech boost (essentially my 4 salvagers were providing more tech than my labs ).   This is in-game year 13 with a 1 billion pop and 40 labs start, internal fusion research is about to be completed, I would never have gotten there this fast without my regular spoiler friends

edit: internal, not inertial fusion. . . 

[CharonJr (OP)]

Just a quick comment: The die has been cast - at least concerning the attack.  .  . 

I am currently gathering my 2 CTFs.   Basically I am hoping that being able to launch 450 S6 - warhead 9 - missiles at once while the fleet is being defended by 480 gauss cannons and 120 AMMs every 10sec  should buy me enough time to get a better picture about the WH's capabilities against my fleet, with likely beam ships being primary targets. 

The main question will most likely be if the drones give me enough time to get weapons/sensors back online.   Once they are back up I am fairly confident that enemy missiles will not be the problem, but I will stay at the jump-point and jump out if things start going south.   And even if a couple of ships (most likely fighters) are lost, most of them would have been replaced due to the new engines anyway (with the rest getting stationed as plantary defenders).

In addition attacking might have the additional advantage of getting rid of the annoying "overflow" errors which are most likely caused by my WH-friends from what I read here on the froums.

[ZimRathbone]

Concerning the additional FC for the gauss ship - I was under the (potentially wrong) impression that for final defensive fire it does not matter which flight the missiles were originally from, the weapons will target all enemy missiles even if they only have one fire control.   Is this correct, or will my gauss turrets basically be limited to engaging just 1 flight of missiles?

Fraid you're mistaken - if you have only 1 F/C then only 1 salvo of missiles will be targeted, and not necessarily the biggest - i don't recall the priority in selecting missile groups to fire at, but I have a sneaking suspicion that its done in the order that the missiles move.

I have used this to good effect against your expected opponents, where a group of bombers launched a number of single missile salvos (siz 20 Planetary Defence Missiles IIRC)  against them and only one or two missiles were intercepted in the final fire stage before impact.  This was in a previous version (v4.?) so the recent changes may have invalidated this tactic.

But with both - fuel and armor - the only way I see at the moment would be to lower speed in order to make some room here and I am not sure if this is worth it - any ideas?

If your not going to have to chase your opponents, then yes drop the fleet speed a little - perhaps to 3500 kms^-1
I really wouldn't bother with armouring the drones though - in general their high speed is a better defence.

[CharonJr (OP)]

The battle went smoother than anticipated, when my first heavy drone entered the system the WHs even started to move away from it, with just 1 heavy and 2 normal drones lost my fleet was able to enter the system with the enemy far enough away for the sensors/waepons to come online and not a single of the missiles managed to penetrate the PD.

After some salvage and research this is what the KPM's CTFs are currently being refitted to (incorporating some of the suggestions here):

1 Flagship:

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Bismarck Mk3 class Flugzeugträger    22 000 tons     364 Crew     3864 BP      TCS 440  TH 2000  EM 1500
4545 km/s     Armour 6-69     Shields 50-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.32 Years     MSP 878    AFR 484%    IFR 6.7%    1YR 538    5YR 8067    Max Repair 216 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 57    
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 7000 tons     Magazine 960    

250 EP Internal Fusion Drive (8)    Power 250    Fuel Use 94.33%    Signature 250    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 2 435 000 Litres    Range 21.1 billion km   (53 days at full power)
Gamma R300/288 Shields (25)   Total Fuel Cost  300 Litres per hour  (7 200 per day)

Hellfire6-46.7/56-T80 (160)  Speed: 46 700 km/s   End: 49m    Range: 137.3m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 186/112/56

Active Search Sensor MR300-R160 (1)     GPS 34560     Range 300.5m km    Resolution 160
Active Search Sensor MR18-R1 (1)     GPS 168     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor MR100-R18 (1)     GPS 3888     Range 100.8m km    Resolution 18

Strike Group
14x Ju-87D Bomber   Speed: 8080 km/s    Size: 9.9

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

2 Carriers:

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Graf Zeppelin Mk5 class Flugzeugträger    16 500 tons     266 Crew     2555 BP      TCS 330  TH 1500  EM 1200
4545 km/s     Armour 5-57     Shields 40-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 6     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.24 Years     MSP 581    AFR 363%    IFR 5%    1YR 391    5YR 5863    Max Repair 150 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 39    
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 6000 tons     Magazine 720    

250 EP Internal Fusion Drive (6)    Power 250    Fuel Use 94.33%    Signature 250    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 690 000 Litres    Range 19.5 billion km   (49 days at full power)
Gamma R300/288 Shields (20)   Total Fuel Cost  240 Litres per hour  (5 760 per day)

Hellfire6-46.7/56-T80 (120)  Speed: 46 700 km/s   End: 49m    Range: 137.3m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 186/112/56

Strike Group
12x Ju-87D Bomber   Speed: 8080 km/s    Size: 9.9

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

2 Escort Carriers:

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Seydlitz Mk4 class Begleitträger    11 000 tons     169 Crew     1586.5 BP      TCS 220  TH 1000  EM 600
4545 km/s     Armour 4-44     Shields 20-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.38 Years     MSP 406    AFR 215%    IFR 3%    1YR 229    5YR 3441    Max Repair 125 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 31    
Hangar Deck Capacity 5000 tons     Magazine 240    

250 EP Internal Fusion Drive (4)    Power 250    Fuel Use 94.33%    Signature 250    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 180 000 Litres    Range 20.5 billion km   (52 days at full power)
Gamma R300/288 Shields (10)   Total Fuel Cost  120 Litres per hour  (2 880 per day)

Hellfire6-46.7/56-T80 (40)  Speed: 46 700 km/s   End: 49m    Range: 137.3m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 186/112/56

Strike Group
8x FW-190C Fighter   Speed: 10126 km/s    Size: 7.9
1x Fi-156BL Aufklärer   Speed: 9195 km/s    Size: 8.7
1x Fi-156BM Aufklärer   Speed: 9195 km/s    Size: 8.7
1x Fi-156BK Aufklärer   Speed: 9195 km/s    Size: 8.7
2x Drone Mk3 Fighter   Speed: 32653 km/s    Size: 4.9

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
(the second carrier has 12 Me-109D fighters)

2 Missile-Cruisers:

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Scharnhorst Mk5 class Raketenkreuzer    11 000 tons     332 Crew     2112.5 BP      TCS 220  TH 1000  EM 900
4545 km/s     Armour 4-44     Shields 30-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 3     PPV 72
Maint Life 1.23 Years     MSP 360    AFR 322%    IFR 4.5%    1YR 247    5YR 3699    Max Repair 144 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 2    
Magazine 552    

250 EP Internal Fusion Drive (4)    Power 250    Fuel Use 94.33%    Signature 250    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 1 200 000 Litres    Range 20.8 billion km   (53 days at full power)
Gamma R300/288 Shields (15)   Total Fuel Cost  180 Litres per hour  (4 320 per day)

Size 6 Missile Launcher (12)    Missile Size 6    Rate of Fire 40
Missile Fire Control FC201-R18 (2)     Range 201.6m km    Resolution 18
Hellfire6-46.7/56-T80 (92)  Speed: 46 700 km/s   End: 49m    Range: 137.3m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 186/112/56

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

2 AMM-Destroyers:

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Kobra Mk4 class Anti-Raktenzerstörer    5 500 tons     161 Crew     974 BP      TCS 110  TH 500  EM 600
4545 km/s     Armour 3-27     Shields 20-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 30
Maint Life 1.46 Years     MSP 166    AFR 161%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 86    5YR 1296    Max Repair 125 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0    
Magazine 270    

250 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 250    Fuel Use 94.33%    Signature 250    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 575 000 Litres    Range 19.9 billion km   (50 days at full power)
Gamma R300/288 Shields (10)   Total Fuel Cost  120 Litres per hour  (2 880 per day)

Size 1 Missile Launcher (30)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC21-R1 (2)     Range 21.1m km    Resolution 1
Sidewinder1-40/120 (270)  Speed: 40 000 km/s   End: 3.2m    Range: 7.8m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 400/240/120

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

2 AM Gauss-Destroyers:

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Mungo Mk3 class Anti-Raktenzerstörer    5 500 tons     118 Crew     1044 BP      TCS 110  TH 500  EM 180
4545 km/s     Armour 3-27     Shields 6-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 58
Maint Life 1.24 Years     MSP 178    AFR 161%    IFR 2.2%    1YR 121    5YR 1808    Max Repair 125 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 2    

250 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 250    Fuel Use 94.33%    Signature 250    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 570 000 Litres    Range 19.8 billion km   (50 days at full power)
Gamma R300/288 Shields (3)   Total Fuel Cost  36 Litres per hour  (864 per day)

Quad Gauss Cannon R3-33 Turret (5x16)    Range 30 000km     TS: 25000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 20-20000 (2)    Max Range: 40 000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
(new TS will still need about 1 year of research and the shields are basically a placeholder for now)


Recon craft:

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Fi-156BL class Aufklärer    435 tons     9 Crew     265.5 BP      TCS 8.7  TH 80  EM 0
9195 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.53 Years     MSP 38    AFR 15%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 18    5YR 276    Max Repair 216 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0    

40 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 40    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 40    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.2 billion km   (37 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR300-R160 (1)     GPS 34560     Range 300.5m km    Resolution 160

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


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Fi-156BM class Aufklärer    435 tons     9 Crew     265.5 BP      TCS 8.7  TH 80  EM 0
9195 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.53 Years     MSP 38    AFR 15%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 18    5YR 276    Max Repair 216 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0    

40 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 40    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 40    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.2 billion km   (37 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR100-R18 (1)     GPS 3888     Range 100.8m km    Resolution 18

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


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Fi-156BK class Aufklärer    435 tons     9 Crew     217.5 BP      TCS 8.7  TH 80  EM 0
9195 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.57 Years     MSP 31    AFR 15%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 14    5YR 216    Max Repair 168 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0    

40 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 40    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 40    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.2 billion km   (37 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR18-R1 (1)     GPS 168     Range 18.5m km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Bomber:

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Ju-87D class Bomber    495 tons     5 Crew     136.6 BP      TCS 9.9  TH 80  EM 0
8080 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 5.4
Maint Life 2.96 Years     MSP 17    AFR 19%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 3    5YR 43    Max Repair 65 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.5 months    Spare Berths 1    
Magazine 36    

40 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 40    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 40    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 5 000 Litres    Range 0.5 billion km   (18 hours at full power)

Size 6 Box Launcher (6)    Missile Size 6    Hangar Reload 45 minutes    MF Reload 7.5 hours
Missile Fire Control FC213-R100 (1)     Range 213.8m km    Resolution 100
Hellfire6-46.7/56-T80 (6)  Speed: 46 700 km/s   End: 49m    Range: 137.3m km   WH: 9    Size: 6    TH: 186/112/56

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Gauss Fighter:

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Me-109D class Fighter    465 tons     9 Crew     138 BP      TCS 9.3  TH 160  EM 0
17204 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4
Maint Life 3.57 Years     MSP 19    AFR 17%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 2    5YR 34    Max Repair 20 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.17 months    Spare Berths 0    

40 EP Internal Fusion Drive (4)    Power 40    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 40    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.2 billion km   (18 hours at full power)

Gauss Cannon R3-33 (2x4)    Range 30 000km     TS: 17204 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 33%     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S00.5 20-5000 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 40 000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     75 50 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Beam Fighter-Bomber:

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FW-190C class Fighter    395 tons     10 Crew     159.5 BP      TCS 7.9  TH 80  EM 0
10126 km/s     Armour 1-4     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3
Maint Life 3.31 Years     MSP 25    AFR 12%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 3    5YR 52    Max Repair 60 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.12 months    Spare Berths 0    

40 EP Internal Fusion Drive (2)    Power 40    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 40    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 1.4 billion km   (37 hours at full power)

15cm C1.25 Far Ultraviolet Laser (1)    Range 300 000km     TS: 10126 km/s     Power 6-1.25     RM 5    ROF 25        6 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 3 3
Fire Control S02 160-2500 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 320 000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 1.6    Armour 0    Exp 5%

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

And finally the light drones, which are faster than most of the enemy missiles I have seen now:

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Drone Mk3 class Fighter    245 tons     2 Crew     101 BP      TCS 4.9  TH 160  EM 0
32653 km/s     Armour 1-3     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 9.11 Years     MSP 26    AFR 4%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 1    5YR 8    Max Repair 20 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 8    

40 EP Internal Fusion Drive (4)    Power 40    Fuel Use 336.02%    Signature 40    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 5 000 Litres    Range 1.1 billion km   (9 hours at full power)

Active Search Sensor MR6-R18 (1)     GPS 260     Range 6.7m km    Resolution 18

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

Overall I tried to get enough fuel for 50 days now with shields in addition to the armor, shield tech is still fairly low, but research on Delta Shields will be finished in around 3 months with a better recharge rate about 3 months after that.

I am currently working on a dedicated longer range beam destroyer or cruiser, but with not having really focused on lasers/recharge tech it will take some time, but those should come in handy for higher level atmossphere bombardments and area defense.

Any input about potential improvements is appreciated