Go BIG or go home

[NihilRex (OP)]

I started out with a bunch of Naval shipyards and few civilian ones, so I SM combined them into 2 destroyer yards at 12500, and one Humongous carrier yard...

Here is the hilarity of what a "Big Ship" navy can look like at medium tech.

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Enterprise class Carrier    125 000 tons     1591 Crew     17845.2 BP      TCS 2500  TH 2500  EM 0
1000 km/s     Armour 2-222     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/24/0/0     Damage Control Rating 30     PPV 35
Maint Life 3.44 Years     MSP 42677    AFR 4166%    IFR 57.9%    1YR 5496    5YR 82439    Max Repair 3600 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 18 months    Flight Crew Berths 503   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 40000 tons     Magazine 13500    Cryogenic Berths 200   

625 EP Commercial Magnetic Fusion Drive (4)    Power 625    Fuel Use 3.54%    Signature 625    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 4 915 000 Litres    Range 199.9 billion km   (2314 days at full power)

Large Torpedo Tube mark 1 (2)    Missile Size 25    Rate of Fire 540
Counter Missile Launcher (FAST) (10)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
AEGIS Fire Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 24.2m km    Resolution 1
Capital Missile Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 1 269.8m km    Resolution 150
Sparrow Anti-ship Missile (1125)  Speed: 22 900 km/s   End: 159.7m    Range: 219.4m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 259/155/77
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (2750)  Speed: 75 000 km/s   End: 0.8m    Range: 3.7m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 725/435/217
Halibut Torpedo (500)  Speed: 7 800 km/s   End: 2.5d    Range: 1693.6m km   WH: 4    Size: 3    TH: 117/70/35
Mjolnir Capital Missile (130)  Speed: 38 000 km/s   End: 510.5m    Range: 1163.9m km   WH: 25    Size: 25    TH: 177/106/53
Flock of Sparrows (75)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 4.6d    Range: 3275.4m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8
Dazzler (30)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 2.9d    Range: 2068.1m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8

AEGIS Sensor mark 1 (1)     GPS 96     Range 23.0m km    MCR 2.5m km    Resolution 1
Panoptic Search Sensor mark 1 (1)     GPS 24000     Range 1 821.5m km    Resolution 10
EM Detection Sensor M1 (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km

ECCM-2 (2)         ECM 20

Strike Group
8x Bat Geological Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
8x Rat Gravitational Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
24x Buffalo Escort Fighter   Speed: 1503 km/s    Size: 9.98
40x Cobra Fighter   Speed: 12000 km/s    Size: 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Bat class Geological Survey Vessel    500 tons     16 Crew     234.4 BP      TCS 10  TH 22  EM 0
2200 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/3     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 6.16 Years     MSP 88    AFR 6%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 4    5YR 60    Max Repair 200 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Spare Berths 1   

Parasite MagFusion Drive (3)    Power 7.5    Fuel Use 1.95%    Signature 7.5    Exp 3%
Fuel Capacity 15 000 Litres    Range 276.9 billion km   (1456 days at full power)

Advanced Geological Sensors (1)   3 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

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Rat class Gravitational Survey Vessel    500 tons     16 Crew     234.4 BP      TCS 10  TH 22  EM 0
2200 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/3/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 6.16 Years     MSP 88    AFR 6%    IFR 0.1%    1YR 4    5YR 60    Max Repair 200 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Spare Berths 1   

Parasite MagFusion Drive (3)    Power 7.5    Fuel Use 1.95%    Signature 7.5    Exp 3%
Fuel Capacity 15 000 Litres    Range 276.9 billion km   (1456 days at full power)

Advanced Gravitational Sensors (1)   3 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


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Cobra class Fighter    500 tons     8 Crew     158.4 BP      TCS 10  TH 120  EM 0
12000 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3
Maint Life 2.38 Years     MSP 20    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 5    5YR 73    Max Repair 50 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.24 months    Spare Berths 0   
Magazine 19   

Magnetic Fusion Fighter Drive (2)    Power 60    Fuel Use 61.83%    Signature 60    Exp 12%
Fuel Capacity 5 000 Litres    Range 2.9 billion km   (67 hours at full power)

Sprint Missile Tube mark 1 (1)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
AEGIS Fire Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 24.2m km    Resolution 1
Sparrow Anti-ship Missile (6)  Speed: 22 900 km/s   End: 159.7m    Range: 219.4m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 259/155/77
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (1)  Speed: 75 000 km/s   End: 0.8m    Range: 3.7m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 725/435/217

Fighter Target Acquisition Sensor (1)     GPS 5     Range 1.2m km    MCR 125k km    Resolution 1

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

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Essex class Light Carrier    12 500 tons     212 Crew     1803.25 BP      TCS 250  TH 625  EM 0
2500 km/s     Armour 6-47     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/24/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 22.8
Maint Life 2.15 Years     MSP 388    AFR 290%    IFR 4%    1YR 112    5YR 1684    Max Repair 156.25 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 60   
Hangar Deck Capacity 3000 tons     Magazine 552   

625 EP Commercial Magnetic Fusion Drive (1)    Power 625    Fuel Use 3.54%    Signature 625    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 135 000 Litres    Range 54.9 billion km   (254 days at full power)

Sprint Missile Tube mark 1 (4)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
Torpedo Tube mark 1 (2)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 260
Boxed Torpedo Launcher (2)    Missile Size 25    Hangar Reload 187.5 minutes    MF Reload 31.2 hours
Counter Missile Launcher (micro) mark 1 (4)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 90
Destroyer Missile Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 244.4m km    Resolution 50
AEGIS Fire Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 24.2m km    Resolution 1
Sparrow Anti-ship Missile (40)  Speed: 22 900 km/s   End: 159.7m    Range: 219.4m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 259/155/77
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (112)  Speed: 75 000 km/s   End: 0.8m    Range: 3.7m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 725/435/217
Halibut Torpedo (90)  Speed: 7 800 km/s   End: 2.5d    Range: 1693.6m km   WH: 4    Size: 3    TH: 117/70/35
Flock of Sparrows (2)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 4.6d    Range: 3275.4m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8

Comprehensive Search Array, mark 1 (1)     GPS 14400     Range 282.2m km    Resolution 150
AEGIS Sensor mark 1 (1)     GPS 96     Range 23.0m km    MCR 2.5m km    Resolution 1
EM Detection Sensor M1 (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km

ECCM-2 (2)         ECM 20

Strike Group
1x Rat Gravitational Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
1x Bat Geological Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
4x Buffalo Escort Fighter   Speed: 1503 km/s    Size: 9.98

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Essex class Light Carrier    12 500 tons     212 Crew     1803.25 BP      TCS 250  TH 625  EM 0
2500 km/s     Armour 6-47     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/24/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 22.8
Maint Life 2.15 Years     MSP 388    AFR 290%    IFR 4%    1YR 112    5YR 1684    Max Repair 156.25 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 60   
Hangar Deck Capacity 3000 tons     Magazine 552   

625 EP Commercial Magnetic Fusion Drive (1)    Power 625    Fuel Use 3.54%    Signature 625    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 135 000 Litres    Range 54.9 billion km   (254 days at full power)

Sprint Missile Tube mark 1 (4)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
Torpedo Tube mark 1 (2)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 260
Boxed Torpedo Launcher (2)    Missile Size 25    Hangar Reload 187.5 minutes    MF Reload 31.2 hours
Counter Missile Launcher (micro) mark 1 (4)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 90
Destroyer Missile Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 244.4m km    Resolution 50
AEGIS Fire Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 24.2m km    Resolution 1
Sparrow Anti-ship Missile (40)  Speed: 22 900 km/s   End: 159.7m    Range: 219.4m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 259/155/77
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (112)  Speed: 75 000 km/s   End: 0.8m    Range: 3.7m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 725/435/217
Halibut Torpedo (90)  Speed: 7 800 km/s   End: 2.5d    Range: 1693.6m km   WH: 4    Size: 3    TH: 117/70/35
Flock of Sparrows (2)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 4.6d    Range: 3275.4m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8

Comprehensive Search Array, mark 1 (1)     GPS 14400     Range 282.2m km    Resolution 150
AEGIS Sensor mark 1 (1)     GPS 96     Range 23.0m km    MCR 2.5m km    Resolution 1
EM Detection Sensor M1 (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km

ECCM-2 (2)         ECM 20

Strike Group
1x Rat Gravitational Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
1x Bat Geological Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
4x Buffalo Escort Fighter   Speed: 1503 km/s    Size: 9.98

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


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Arleigh Burke class Missile Destroyer    12 500 tons     266 Crew     2260.25 BP      TCS 250  TH 625  EM 0
2500 km/s     Armour 5-47     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/24/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 68.6
Maint Life 2.44 Years     MSP 588    AFR 240%    IFR 3.3%    1YR 136    5YR 2036    Max Repair 216 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0   
Magazine 932   

625 EP Commercial Magnetic Fusion Drive (1)    Power 625    Fuel Use 3.54%    Signature 625    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 265 000 Litres    Range 107.8 billion km   (499 days at full power)

Sprint Missile Tube mark 1 (4)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 15
Large Torpedo Tube mark 1 (4)    Missile Size 25    Rate of Fire 540
Torpedo Tube mark 1 (4)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 260
Counter Missile Launcher (micro) mark 1 (8)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 90
Capital Missile Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 1 269.8m km    Resolution 150
AEGIS Fire Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 24.2m km    Resolution 1
Sparrow Anti-ship Missile (30)  Speed: 22 900 km/s   End: 159.7m    Range: 219.4m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 259/155/77
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (112)  Speed: 75 000 km/s   End: 0.8m    Range: 3.7m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 725/435/217
Halibut Torpedo (60)  Speed: 7 800 km/s   End: 2.5d    Range: 1693.6m km   WH: 4    Size: 3    TH: 117/70/35
Mjolnir Capital Missile (10)  Speed: 38 000 km/s   End: 510.5m    Range: 1163.9m km   WH: 25    Size: 25    TH: 177/106/53
Flock of Sparrows (8)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 4.6d    Range: 3275.4m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8
Dazzler (4)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 2.9d    Range: 2068.1m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8

AEGIS Sensor mark 1 (1)     GPS 96     Range 23.0m km    MCR 2.5m km    Resolution 1
Comprehensive Search Array, mark 1 (1)     GPS 14400     Range 282.2m km    Resolution 150
EM Detection Sensor M1 (1)     Sensitivity 24     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  24m km

ECCM-2 (2)         ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


[NihilRex (OP)]

Of course, the shortage of civilian yards meant I had no way to make gate ships or jump tenders of sufficient size to jump an Enterprise... so I refitted to a Enterprise B after almost 10months of research.

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Enterprise B class Carrier    124 000 tons     1399 Crew     14997.1 BP      TCS 2480  TH 2500  EM 0
1008 km/s    JR 3-50(C)     Armour 1-221     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 46     PPV 32.5
Maint Life 3.53 Years     MSP 43485    AFR 2668%    IFR 37.1%    1YR 5358    5YR 80367    Max Repair 3600 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 18 months    Flight Crew Berths 508   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 25000 tons     Magazine 8700   

JC124K Commercial Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 124000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
625 EP Commercial Magnetic Fusion Drive (4)    Power 625    Fuel Use 3.54%    Signature 625    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 5 150 000 Litres    Range 211.2 billion km   (2424 days at full power)

Counter Missile Launcher (FAST) (5)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 5
Counter Missile Launcher mark 1 (5)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 25
Large Torpedo Tube mark 1 (2)    Missile Size 25    Rate of Fire 540
Capital Missile Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 1 269.8m km    Resolution 150
AEGIS Fire Control, mark 1 (1)     Range 24.2m km    Resolution 1
Sparrow Anti-ship Missile (750)  Speed: 22 900 km/s   End: 159.7m    Range: 219.4m km   WH: 9    Size: 3    TH: 259/155/77
Hoplite Anti-missile Missile (1800)  Speed: 75 000 km/s   End: 0.8m    Range: 3.7m km   WH: 2    Size: 1    TH: 725/435/217
Halibut Torpedo (300)  Speed: 7 800 km/s   End: 2.5d    Range: 1693.6m km   WH: 4    Size: 3    TH: 117/70/35
Mjolnir Capital Missile (80)  Speed: 38 000 km/s   End: 510.5m    Range: 1163.9m km   WH: 25    Size: 25    TH: 177/106/53
Flock of Sparrows (50)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 4.6d    Range: 3275.4m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8
Dazzler (20)  Speed: 8 200 km/s   End: 2.9d    Range: 2068.1m km   WH: 1    Size: 25    TH: 27/16/8

Panoptic Search Sensor mark 1 (1)     GPS 24000     Range 1 821.5m km    Resolution 10

ECCM-2 (2)         Strike Group
6x Bat Geological Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
6x Rat Gravitational Survey Vessel   Speed: 2200 km/s    Size: 10
8x Buffalo Escort Fighter   Speed: 1503 km/s    Size: 9.98
30x Cobra Fighter   Speed: 12000 km/s    Size: 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
And finally, the forthcoming DL Zumwalts, to make JP assaults possible and reduce the number of Buffaloes in the fleet...

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Zumwalt class Destroyer Leader    15 000 tons     425 Crew     2415.7 BP      TCS 300  TH 1250  EM 1500
4166 km/s    JR 5-100     Armour 4-54     Shields 50-375     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 10     PPV 45
Maint Life 4.53 Years     MSP 2047    AFR 173%    IFR 2.4%    1YR 162    5YR 2425    Max Repair 266 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 18 months    Spare Berths 0   
Flag Bridge   

Destroyer Jump Drive mark 1     Max Ship Size 15200 tons    Distance 100k km     Squadron Size 5
625 EP Commercial Magnetic Fusion Drive (2)    Power 625    Fuel Use 3.54%    Signature 625    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 450 000 Litres    Range 152.5 billion km   (423 days at full power)
Delta Shields (20)   Total Fuel Cost  200 Litres per hour  (4 800 per day)

Single 15cm C0.75 Ultraviolet Laser Turret (12x1)    Range 240 000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 6-1     RM 4    ROF 30        6 6 6 6 4 4 3 3 2 2
Turret Director mark 1 (2)    Max Range: 256 000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
MicroMagFuser (6)     Total Power Output 12    Armour 0    Exp 5%

ECM 20

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

Oh, and the non-starting OOB cost of an Enterprise-B is about 2.5yrs without pre-built components.

[sneer]

this 125kt monster has like 40 cobras x size 6 missiles long strike capability only
i dont really count 2 size 25 tubes as I doubt they can break any real PD

also cobras has 24 m km fire control and use 200m km missiles

[SteelChicken]

Your carrier is slow and has almost no defenses at all.  Paper thin armor, even a handful of reasonable powerful missiles could wreck it.

[NihilRex (OP)]

Yep.  Slow, paper-cut protection only.  Of course, I did say the hilarity of a "big ship" fleet.

None of you noticed that there is a Res 10 scanner with a range somewhere between the orbits of Uranus and Saturn?  Or that the Enterprise B can dock and repair full-sized cruisers?

Or that the magazines hold several years worth of missile production?  In the real world, someone building a diesel powered Nimitz\Sacramento\Floating Drydock combination would be called a "vanity project."

This does not mean that in an integrated fleet, it doesnt kick ass.   It just REALLY needs an upgrade to speed and protection.  The -C model is going to lose more magazine space, add another (new model) engine, and get shield generators.

[Nathan_]

The cobras definitely need box launchers, without them you basically can only throw out a salvo of 40 missiles from your entire carrier group, likewise look into cutting their engineering percentage, its way way too high if they can remain in flight for 2 years. Are those MagCon drives or Magnetoplasma drives?

[NihilRex (OP)]

Mag Con, and the Cobras have 6missiles each, so that'd be 30*6 180 from a full Enterprise-B group, or 240 from an Enterprise-A.  Honestly, though, the Cobras are mostly place holders for the future, but they should work pretty well against a certain 800ton spoiler...  that I havent seen in my last 4 campaigns, but whatever.

[Vordarian]

Also, the Enterprise B is 1kt smaller than the A variant and thus can't mass jump with any A's.

[NihilRex (OP)]

The A models were never fielded outside Sol - the jump drive was huge enough as is, and a larger JD would have meant even more reduction in capability.  In fact, only one was built, and it was refitted as soon as the JD was researched and the design finalized.