Author Topic: noob request (Read 9652 times)

orfeusz · « **on:** August 09, 2011, 05:16:48 AM »

Hi all. I am new here and i need help.

I have tried to play aurora and failed

First my English is not very good but i found it good enough for playing. My problem lies in complexity of the game. I studied tutorials but it is not enough. What i want to ask for is some first hand algorithm. What i need to do first. Like first 30-50 steps. What should i build and where, what research and why, what planet colonize, where send ships, what size of them design and so on. I know that the power of this game lies in that You can do whatever You want. I like it. But game is so complicated that i find playing hard because i don't do some things because i don't know i CAN do them

I would be extremely grateful for Yours suggestions on how to start new game and what to do at the beginning.
I know that it will not guide me to the end, but beginning is the hardest part of journey.

Peter Rhodan · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2011, 09:03:55 AM »

Start a new standard game but with Invaders off - too hard for noobs.
First order of business is to design an engine for your ships. At the bottom of the F2 screen is the Design button. This brings up the design window where you can design your first engine from the drop down menu. Just use the parameters that irt defaults to and press the Create button next tot he line where you can put a fancy name in if you desire. At the bottom the is a drop down menu - after creating your military design then create a Commercial version.
.......

Is this the sort of thing you want or do you want something more like this....

1. Design Military and Commercial engines
2. Create a Geosurvey ship with Commercial engine and several Geological Sensors - don't forget to include lots of fuel - enough so it can go for a 1,000 days is good
3. Create a similar design for a Gravsurvey ship using Gravitational Sensors - these make these ships count as military so you might as well use the more powerful military engine in these.
4. Design a Jump engine that can jump ships as big as the biggest of these 2 designs. The create a Jump ship with lots of fuel and click the Tanker check box so the other ships can refuel from it.
5. Select a commercial shipyard and tell it to Retool for your Grav design. AS it will be the yards 1st design it will do this immediately. Then tell the yard to add capacity if 4 or more slipways or Add Slipway if 3 or less. The in the bottom section start constructing Grav ships to the limit of slipways.

and so on...

Or are both these too detailed and instead you would prefer similar poitns
1. Design Engines
2. Design Grav and GEo survey ships
3. Design Jump engine as big or bigger than Geo and Grav ships
4. Design Jump Ship
5. Retool Commercial yard and start constructing Geo ships...

etc

orfeusz · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2011, 09:56:39 AM »

Quote from: Peter Rhodan link=topic=3924. msg38017#msg38017 date=1312898635

Is this the sort of thing you want or do you want something more like this. . . .

1. Design Military and Commercial engines
2. Create a Geosurvey ship with Commercial engine and several Geological Sensors - don't forget to include lots of fuel - enough so it can go for a 1,000 days is good
3. Create a similar design for a Gravsurvey ship using Gravitational Sensors - these make these ships count as military so you might as well use the more powerful military engine in these.
4. Design a Jump engine that can jump ships as big as the biggest of these 2 designs. The create a Jump ship with lots of fuel and click the Tanker check box so the other ships can refuel from it.
5. Select a commercial shipyard and tell it to Retool for your Grav design. AS it will be the yards 1st design it will do this immediately. Then tell the yard to add capacity if 4 or more slipways or Add Slipway if 3 or less. The in the bottom section start constructing Grav ships to the limit of slipways.

and so on. . .

this version please

but if/when You write "design military scanner" and You mean default stats then OK, but if i need to change something like make it more long-range or something then please add suggestion what to change. I'm little afraid of technologies. I fear that i will produce too weak or powerful components. If i need basic things then its great. If i need changes please add them.

And thanks for help

Peter Rhodan · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2011, 06:05:33 AM »

WHen I say above " Design xyz..." I mean create the project then assign a Scientist and 1 or more Labs to do the research - I hope you know how that works.
As a general rule I keep like 1/2 my labs researching the next Research Tech level in the early game excapt if there is some emergency need for something - so if you have say 8 Labs - 4 should be researching the next Research level - I try and get to at least 400n as early as possible.
Early game keep a good 40% of your Industrial capacity building Labs
Ok
After getting a Geo ship design in production and the Grav design build about 5 Grav ships - build the same number of Jump ships when you get to that. Build as many Geo ships as your jump engine tech will carry - plus 4. So a normal early game Jump engine will carry 3 ships so build 8 + 4 Geo ships - keep 1 Grav and 1 jump and the 4 extra Geo at Earth as reserves and once you have surveyed Sol you can go of exploring with the 4 TG s (1 Jump, 1 Grav, 2 Geo) If you get like 5 or 6 jump points out of Sol then build extra TGs to match.
Once you have Military and Commercial Engine designs and a Jump Engine design - research Troop Transport bay and then Small Jump Gate module.
The reason not to build too many ships is that you will upgrade your engines fairly early on and you will lose ships to Precursors and Swarm.
Anyway with your Commercial yard the strategy next depends on the number of big yards - if only 1 build a combo 25kT capacity freighter / 10k colonist ship - you only need a couple early on - the Civies will build more - don't forget the Cargo Handling module int he design to speed up loading.
if 2 yards - build a dedicated 25kT capacity freighter in one yard and a dedicated colony ship - preferably big enough for at least 100,000 colonists - more if possible.
once you have a few freighters and some colony ships - don't push the construction. As soon as your first ships come of the slipways you can start shipping Infrastructure and Population to Mars - then Factories, Mines etc.
After this design a Troop Ship and build one or two - and design a Jump Gate building ship once that research finishes

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Ho is all this so far?

orfeusz · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2011, 11:22:59 AM »

Great, continue

but i need some thing cleared.