Aurora 4x
Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Erik L on December 02, 2014, 02:57:25 PM
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I initiated a change in hosting plan with the current provider. They will copy everything from the current domain and install it to the new server. This means that 1. Things posted after this may or may not make it to the new server. And 2. The site will not go down during the process.
Once I have an all clear from the host, I'll pass it on to you.
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Thanks Erik for the heads up, and for trying to find a solution.
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Just an FYI, it seems the change has gone through. I can't completely verify this since I'm at work, but the billing and emails I received all indicate it has been changed.
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Soooooooo much faster now. ;D
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Well, not to dump cold water on this or anything, I'm glad it's working well for you.
For me, I rebooted my system before checking this. Other forums I frequent take 2-3 to 6-8 seconds between pages depending on the site. Here it is very consistently a 30-second delay. I'd like to hear from others what they are experiencing, maybe it's just on my end in which case I don't know what to do about it but that's better than it still being that slow for everybody obviously.
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Here it is very consistently a 30-second delay. I'd like to hear from others what they are experiencing, maybe it's just on my end in which case I don't know what to do about it but that's better than it still being that slow for everybody obviously.
No improvement for me yet either.
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It will take a couple of days for the DNS change to propagate through the internet. If you do a trace route to pentarch.org and reach lahut.lunarpages.com, that's the old version. If you reach creon.lunarpages.com, that's the new one.
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It will take a couple of days for the DNS change to propagate through the internet. If you do a trace route to pentarch.org and reach lahut.lunarpages.com, that's the old version. If you reach creon.lunarpages.com, that's the new one.
Traceroute? Let me just grab my wire shark:
(http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/231/8/1/wire_shark__by_eightup747-d5bowa4.jpg)
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It will take a couple of days for the DNS change to propagate through the internet. If you do a trace route to pentarch.org and reach lahut.lunarpages.com, that's the old version. If you reach creon.lunarpages.com, that's the new one.
Ah, that would explain why I didn't notice any change. Tracert still goes to lahut.lunarbreezes.com (216.97.225.50)
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Tracert still goes to lahut.lunarbreezes.com (216.97.225.50)
mine too, still.
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As of just recently it's a ton faster! We also seem to have lost a week's worth of posts.
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As of just recently it's a ton faster! We also seem to have lost a week's worth of posts.
They warned us of this. Oh well, nothing we can really do about it.
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Woah, you know, you really get to cherish things once they have been missing for some time. Instantaneous loading; the future is now!
Seems like the posts of the last 9 days didn't make it though. Good thing I postponed making anything serious.
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I'll see about getting backups from the old server over to the new server.
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I'm just glad we're back up to speed. Thanks, Erik.
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Now I just need to figure out why none of my email passwords work... :-\
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I can speak once more! It's a miracle!
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Thanks Erik,
It is a joy to see the website opening at "warp speed"!
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We are cooking with Magneto-Plasma drives now. ;)
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We are cooking with Magneto-Plasma drives now. ;)
Any news on the backups?
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Any news on the backups?
Still looking at that. They said I'd have access to the old site for 30 days after. But it doesn't seem that way.
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As a minor side problem: Post previews still aren't working too.
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As a minor side problem: Post previews still aren't working too.
Hmm. Seems to work for me.
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Hmm. Seems to work for me.
Witchcraft!
I could not preview this reply. During the slowdown there was a trick to click on "Re:[thread name]" to see a preview, but it doesn't work anymore now. Anyway, it is a minor issue. I can live without it.
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and I can't seem to start new threads, I get some kind of error message every time I try
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and I can't seem to start new threads, I get some kind of error message every time I try
what's the error message?
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Preview and new threads work great for me. So yeah, witchcraft :P
Only bit of news I'm looking for is whatever happens with the backups. Happy as a clam either way.
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what's the error message?
"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
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"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
Maybe it's an effect of the Naughty/Nice list. Do you know which one you're on?
:)
John
BTW, Preview worked for me on this message
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We are cooking with Magneto-Plasma drives now. ;)
We are! Very nice, thanks for this.
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Maybe it's an effect of the Naughty/Nice list. Do you know which one you're on?
I'm getting a lump of sorium waste in my stocking, aren't I?
Yeah still can't do it.
What's weird is that it's persistent across browsers and devices and hotspots. Doesn't work here or at work, doesn't work on my laptop or my desktop, doesn't work on chrome or firefox.
I might just create a new account. Or I'll just start posting everything on this thread.
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Now that Christmas is over, I'm curious whether there's news on the backup. Just wondering so I can start reposting stuff if we aren't going to get one.
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Hi Bryan! (Anxiously awaiting the repost)
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Now that Christmas is over, I'm curious whether there's news on the backup. Just wondering so I can start reposting stuff if we aren't going to get one.
I've been sick this entire week. So nothing has been looked at. Go ahead and repost if you wish.
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I've been sick this entire week. So nothing has been looked at. Go and repost if you wish.
Me too :(. Christmas illness buddies!
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That's a lousy time of year to be sick. Hope you are improving Erik :(.
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Eating antibiotics like candy.
And with candy too.
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"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
Looks like this:
(http://abload.de/img/whate7rqj.jpg)
I did not get this by starting a new thread by the way, but just by trying to reply to one. I am happy I could at least reply here for some reason, because otherwise I would have just fallen silent and vanished.
After just this text in a reply, I already got an error, not mentioning what was to come after:
...screw that, I cannot copy it in here without getting an error here too. Well, I can tell that the letter count was 2241 without text extras such as links quotes, or styles, so only the sign count seems to be what is too much. (former limit was 10k with clear mentioning that this was a limit, rather than just some error)
Update: It is not the sign count, as I experienced errors with smaller texts, but could post larger ones once the composition had changed. I was able to prevent an error window by removing some brackets like these (), but the symbol alone does not cause the error, as you can read this. The brackets appeared random in a stream of nonsensical signs, so I really cannot deduce any pattern.
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Yepp, so my newest and final results: This is completely redonkulous. There is literally no rule to when there is an error or not. It happens always at the same moments, but yet still somehow no pattern.
So I was replying to a message and updating the text by one additional word at a time to see when and what would cause an error. ...I got 3 words, and it would always bug out at that exact same position.
I just tried to put in a copy of that text here, but yes, it results in the above error, so here it is as picture:
(http://abload.de/img/benanntc0uy5.jpg)
If I wrote "from", error. If not, fine. There is no special sign, no function, style, or sign count. It just doesn't like this word. It is not that the word gets blacklisted though, nope. From from from. You can write that. Just in this constellation, it somehow causes an error after only 277 signs. If I write another word than "from" in the text above however, it works.
So, yes, redonkulous, and completely nonsensical.
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I've scoured the options and settings, and I can find nothing that would cause these issues.
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Hmm, it is definitely something here, because I do not have ever encountered problems like this, which includes of course the present of other places. Since Theodidactus saw the same error window once, there is some chance that his error was related to the same issue and only incidentally fell on new thread creation.(if this error is anything, then random :P)
So I challenge Theodidactus to copy this text and try to post it here.
Template:
Hopefully this gets through now. Piece by piece until there is an error.
[quote author=Zenrer link=topic=7477.msg77437#msg77437 date=1419692742]
Could you elaborate a little more on this? The eventual slowdown of the game is starting to get to me :-\
[/quote]
Well, asideAdd "from", and see what explodes or not.
I also had the error when making my first report here btw., but I do not remember what caused it exactly, only that it had nothing to do with "from" and was slightly over 500 signs(/just to prove that this has no influence). I thought I could not write here again for some time before this was fixed.
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Getting the same 404 when trying to continue my AAR.
Seems to be length of text related in my case.
Here, too, wrote more at first, but got 404...
12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890
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Strange, now the message is longer than what I initially wrote, but obviously no problems...
And still no go with the AAR update
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Hmm, it is definitely something here, because I do not have ever encountered problems like this, which includes of course the present of other places. Since Theodidactus saw the same error window once, there is some chance that his error was related to the same issue and only incidentally fell on new thread creation.(if this error is anything, then random :P)
So I challenge Theodidactus to copy this text and try to post it here.
Template:
Hopefully this gets through now. Piece by piece until there is an error.Well, asideAdd "from", and see what explodes or not.
I also had the error when making my first report here btw., but I do not remember what caused it exactly, only that it had nothing to do with "from" and was slightly over 500 signs(/just to prove that this has no influence). I thought I could not write here again for some time before this was fixed.
I just tried it and got a forbidden to access index.php on this server 404
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Oh, so it applies to everyone it seems. Really weird problem with that there is no pattern, but just some unaccepted letter combinations or something like that.
@CharonJr : I also thought it was sign count at first, but tested around and then found the same thing. If I simply erased the word that was causing trouble after the above quote, I could continue writing no problem for quite some length. In another text then I could remove the blockade by just deleting some brackets "(" that were randomly placed in between nonsense.
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Hasn't happened to me once. Strange.
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"from" to this beginning we weave a stream of consciousness to attempt to break the forum in the manner than has so many users confuzzled. Even the red underlining of words poses no issues to the stream. There can be only one forum software that functions in the manner described. Maybe it is time to upgrade to SMF 2.0? Who knows? The Grinch certainly does not. Typing with one's eyes closed can lead to numerous typos if one does not know where to place ones fingers on the keyboard. Fortuitously I can type fortuitously with my eyes closed. There has not been any interruption in my stream. The words flow forth like the nasal drippings of a leaky nose (sorry for that visual, still a bit under the weather). And evidently "stull" is a word. Who knows what it means?
Do paragraphs have any impact on this? Not that I've seen. Nor can I find anything in the configurations that would cause these issues. Perchance I should look on the SMF forums to see if this is a known issue. Does formatting have any weight in the issue? None that I've seen. Who knows? Only the shadow knows. And he only talks to Kato. Who is on loan from the Green Hornet because Robin was busy tending to his recently laid egg. Now imagine how much more bizarre this post would be if I'd been imbibing Nyquil?
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Hmm, it looks like it is "length of text" related, at least in some cases, since when I divided my AAR text into 2 parts I was able to post it.
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But obviously there has to be an additional trigger. If you take a look at my AAR text I had to split it pretty much right there, I could have added another word, but regardless what I would add after this I got the 404. But I think that some of my previous posts were longer as well.
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Does it have something to do with using quotes ?
No, that isn't it. I had the problem with this post here in the middle where the weird signs started: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/topic,7477.msg77455.html#msg77455 (http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/topic,7477.msg77455.html#msg77455)
+@CharonJr
This post is short. This post had no special formatting, and no quotes. There was nothing special about the post at all, yet still error. (smiley came in later btw.)
The thing is though that even when the error seem to be random, they are repeatable. If I still knew where exactly I placed those "(" brackets between this extra jumbo mumbojumbo, you would be able to reproduce that result when trying to post it too. So there must be a rule, but after all the testing I did, I can only conclude it is too complex and unforeseeable for humans.
Large posts only tend to look like they fabricate the problem, because through the laws of statistics it becomes of course much more likely to encounter the true error reason in a large text rather than a short one. It has nothing to do with length directly though.
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OMG, ;D. Google translate Erik's post. It is so funny and wierd.
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OMG, ;D. Google translate Erik's post. It is so funny and wierd.
It's intentionally scrambled Latin, used as filler text. It comes from a work called "De finibus bonorum et malorum" (On the ends of good and evil) by Cicero.
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Have people seen the failure with freshly-typed text (i.e. no copy-pasting or quoting)? If not, then my bet would be on a "hidden" (i.e. one that doesn't print in the GUI) character embedded in the corrupt block that's screwing things up....
If so, then "Never mind, ...."
John
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This weekend, or tomorrow depending on how I feel, I'm going to just upgrade the board from 1.20 to 2.0. This will probably change the look and feel somewhat but should not affect the functionality.
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Uhuh. Just made a 17k signs post without any problems. Ahh, the little joys of life. :)
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No 404s here as well.
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Uhuh. Just made a 17k signs post without any problems. Ahh, the little joys of life. :)
Screw that, the error is still there. Just had a mere 3945 sign post give me the error on the last sentence here: http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/topic,7647.msg77592.html#msg77592 (http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/topic,7647.msg77592.html#msg77592)
There appear to be two cases of errors. Sometimes you just cannot write a certain word or rather sign for some reason, so you need to black that out and can continue as if nothing happened. I had however also two times now had the case where I literally could not write anything more after a certain point, no matter what it was. Has nothing to do with sign count again, as the other time this happened was with a 10k+ post.
...It could be though that maybe the " " free space sign was bugged in those instances, so it was only a different face of the same error, hmm.
[more errors :-X]
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Ok, I wanted to have a quote in the above post, but it would bug out yet again. Same when I instead tried to describe that something was blocking again.
Let's see how this fares in a new post:
Have people seen the failure with freshly-typed text (i.e. no copy-pasting or quoting)? If not, then my bet would be on a "hidden" (i.e. one that doesn't print in the GUI) character embedded in the corrupt block that's screwing things up....
If so, then "Never mind, ...."
John
No, I can pretty much disprove that, because when it came to figuring out where exactly the error in a given text was, I only copied up to the error producing sentence and then went word by word. Naturally, this is more easy to do by typing anew instead of copying, so this error indeed comes up every time you fresh type the very same constellation that lead to the error.
// Well, it worked. So it really is just the combination of signs in some way. The part here was causing a problem, but separated it works fine again.
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Actually I've been getting weird graphics problems with this forum lately, I had chalked it down to my slow connection speeds, but it's very unusual...
http://i.imgur.com/N78oHMj.png
Also sometimes images load as a pink square with random pink lines on it....
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Actually I've been getting weird graphics problems with this forum lately, I had chalked it down to my slow connection speeds, but it's very unusual...
http://i.imgur.com/N78oHMj.png
Also sometimes images load as a pink square with random pink lines on it....
That is bizarre. The only time I've seen anything remotely similar is when the video drivers need a serious update, or the card is about to implode.
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That is bizarre. The only time I've seen anything remotely similar is when the video drivers need a serious update, or the card is about to implode.
It wouldn't surprise me if my card was about to kick the bucket, actually, It's probably unrelated :P
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FYI I just got the 404 error for the first time. It was a fairly long post, but one that I had previously posted in precisely the same form before the forum issues with no problem.
So -- bizarre world continues.
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"Well, aside from" Is bugged unless from is placed into italics..... weird because from by itself seems fine.
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•"May from I from introduce from Mr from Ollivander?" from said from Dumbledore. from taking from his from place from at from the from judges’ from table, from and from talking from to from the from champions. from "He from will from be from checking from your from wands from to from ensure from that from they from are from in from good from condition from before from the from Tournament"… from Fleur from Delacour from swept from over from to from Mr from Ollivander, from and from handed from him from her from wand. from "Hmm…" from he from said. from He from twirled from the from wand from between from his from long from fingers from like from a from baton from and from it from emitted from a from number from of from pink from and from gold from sparks. from Then from he from held from it from close from to from his from eyes from and from examined from it from carefully. from "Yes," from he from said from quietly, from "nine from and from a from half from inches… from inflexible… from rosewood… from and from containing… from dear from me…" from … from "Mr from Ollivander from ran from his from fingers from along from the from wand, from apparently from checking from for from scratches from or from bumps… from "Ah from now, from this from is from one from of from mine, from isn’t from it?" from said from Mr from Ollivander, from with from much from more from enthusiasm, from as from Cedric from handed from over from his from wand. from "Yes, from I from remember from it from well. from Containing from a from single from hair from from from the from tail from of from a from particularly from fine from male from unicorn… from Twelve from and from a from quarter from inches… from ash… from pleasantly from springy. from It’s from in from fine from condition… from you from treat from it from regularly?" from "Polished from it from last from nigt, from said from Cedric, from grinning. from Harry from looked from down from at from his from own from wand. from He from could from see from finger from marks from all from over from it. from He from gathered from a from fistful from of from robe from from from his from knee from and from tried from to from rub from it from clean from surreptitiously. from Several from gold from sparks from shot from out from of from the from end from of from it. from Fleur from Delacour from gave from him from a from very from patronising from look, from and from he from desisted. from Mr from Ollivander from sent from a from stream from of from silver from smoke from rings from across from the from room from from from the from tip from of from Cedric’s from wand, from pronounced from himself from satisfied, from and from then from said, from "Mr from Krum, from if from you from please."… from He from thrust from his from wand from out from and from stood from scowling, from with from his from hands from in from the from pokckets from of from his from robes… from He from lifted from the from wand from and from examined from it from minutely, from turning from it from over from and from over from before from his from eyes. from "Yes…. from hornbeam from and from dragon from heartstring?" from he from shot from at from Krum, from who from nodded. from "Rather from thicker from than from one from usually from sees… from quite from rigid… from ten from and from a from quarter from inches… from Avis!" from The from hornbeam from wand from let from off from a from blast from like from a from gun…
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Just got this as I was trying to make a new topic. . . three times now with no success.
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Try putting all instances of from or like into italics.....
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Talk about odd. . . my first chapter had the word fro-m in it twice and I had no problems posting. This chapter had it six times and it did not like it. . . very weird.
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MarcAFK, you may have hit on something! I was able to rescue one post by doing the italics trick.
I nominate you for ... something really cool.
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Talk about odd. . . my first chapter had the word fro-m in it twice and I had no problems posting. This chapter had it six times and it did not like it. . . very weird.
I posted like 200 froms on the last page with no problem. It's weird.
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Something else odd is the spacing on periods. I'm new to the forum so I may have missed a thread, but it seems to me that the boards are adding extra spaces after a period. This post may even be an example.
EDIT: Aha, found it. . . it seems to be an anti-spam feature in place, and until you have 10 posts you get the spacing issue. This kinda sucks, because I started posting my story right away and it's been driving me nuts with the spacing issues. I'll just have to find a way to get to 10 posts - legitimately - and then proceed from there. :)
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Something else odd is the spacing on periods. I'm new to the forum so I may have missed a thread, but it seems to me that the boards are adding extra spaces after a period. This post may even be an example.
EDIT: Aha, found it. . . it seems to be an anti-spam feature in place, and until you have 10 posts you get the spacing issue. This kinda sucks, because I started posting my story right away and it's been driving me nuts with the spacing issues. I'll just have to find a way to get to 10 posts - legitimately - and then proceed from there. :)
This was your 11th post.
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Nope, that - at the time - was post 9. :) I have made a couple posts since then. (This is post 12)
(Let's test... 1.01 2.02)