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New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: AbuDhabi on September 18, 2013, 04:46:50 PM

Title: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: AbuDhabi on September 18, 2013, 04:46:50 PM
I have a problem.

See, I've explored the system of Altair.  According to the Galactic Map, the system contained one body that had a base colony cost under 2 (blue ring around system bubble, blue dot with "1" next to it within the system bubble).  However, according to the System View, there was nothing such there.  Indeed, there was a planet with a colony cost of 2, but none under that cost.  I have settled that planet and put installations on others in the systems.  Since then, I have terraformed it to full habitability. . .

. . . and the Galactic Map now shows TWO worlds with colony cost under 2 (blue dot with "2" next to it).  I have inspected the System View again, in case I've accidentally selected a filter that precluded the showing of the mysterious system.  But no, nothing resembling cost 2 shows up on that list, even toggling all the asteroids, moons and whatnot.  Casual examination of the system map reveals nothing surprising.

What am I doing wrong? What more can I check?
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: Mel Vixen on September 18, 2013, 07:33:48 PM
You might want to check the moons in this systems. Those can sometimes be hospital to your colonists. Similarly you may have a world closely around a second star if one is in the system.   
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: AbuDhabi on September 18, 2013, 09:14:41 PM
I have checked all the moons under the System View.  None of them are anywhere resembling a habitable world.

The system is a single star. 

Here is the clipboard dump of the system.  Also, I've attached a printscreen of the Galactic Map. 
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Altair-A  A7-IV  Diameter: 4.5m  Mass: 3.1  Luminosity: 36

Frigg:  Colony Cost: 21.65,  Temperature: 615.4,  Gravity: 1.02,  Orbit: 577m
    Carbon Dioxide 96%, Nitrogen Dioxide 4.0%,  Pressure: 93.83
Sif:  Temperature: 286.9,  Gravity: 2.20,  Orbit: 996m
    Carbon Dioxide 96%, Sulphur Dioxide 4.0%,  Pressure: 163.00
    Total Moons: 1
Balder:  Colony Cost: 0.00,  Temperature: -9.2,  Gravity: 0.21,  Orbit: 1.41b
    Carbon Dioxide 61%, Oxygen (0.11) 23.3%, Nitrogen 15.5%,  Pressure: 0.47
Odin:  Colony Cost: 0.00,  Temperature: -183.3,  Gravity: 2.90,  Orbit: 7.3b
    Odin - Moon 8:  Colony Cost: 6.80,  Temperature: -191.4,  Gravity: 0.11,  Orbit: 726k
    Hel:  Colony Cost: 6.50,  Temperature: -183.3,  Gravity: 0.19,  Orbit: 16.0m
    Total Moons: 21
Thor:  Colony Cost: 6.50,  Temperature: -218.7,  Gravity: 2.85,  Orbit: 19.8b
    Eir:  Colony Cost: 7.72,  Temperature: -216.0,  Gravity: 0.26,  Orbit: 711k
    Thor - Moon 8:  Colony Cost: 7.83,  Temperature: -218.7,  Gravity: 0.10,  Orbit: 790k
    Thor - Moon 10:  Colony Cost: 7.83,  Temperature: -218.7,  Gravity: 0.17,  Orbit: 1.50m
    Total Moons: 14
Loki:  Temperature: -233.6,  Gravity: 0.81,  Orbit: 38b
    Loki - Moon 11:  Colony Cost: 8.39,  Temperature: -233.6,  Gravity: 0.11,  Orbit: 250k
    Loki - Moon 17:  Colony Cost: 8.15,  Temperature: -227.4,  Gravity: 0.40,  Orbit: 3.2m
    Hydrogen 89%, Helium 10.6%, Neon 0.44%,  Pressure: 0.16
    Total Moons: 18
Freyja:  Colony Cost: 8.93,  Temperature: -248.1,  Gravity: 0.13,  Orbit: 72b
    Total Moons: 1
Tyr:  Colony Cost: 9.28,  Temperature: -257.4,  Gravity: 0.12,  Orbit: 158b
    Total Moons: 1
Asteroid Belt: 15

Jump Points
 1) Barnards Star (JG):    Distance: 10.0b   Bearing: 201
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: Erik L on September 18, 2013, 09:46:19 PM
I have checked all the moons under the System View.  None of them are anywhere resembling a habitable world.

The system is a single star.  

Here is the clipboard dump of the system.  Also, I've attached a printscreen of the Galactic Map.  
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Altair-A  A7-IV  Diameter: 4.5m  Mass: 3.1  Luminosity: 36

Frigg:  Colony Cost: 21.65,  Temperature: 615.4,  Gravity: 1.02,  Orbit: 577m
    Carbon Dioxide 96%, Nitrogen Dioxide 4.0%,  Pressure: 93.83
Sif:  Temperature: 286.9,  Gravity: 2.20,  Orbit: 996m
    Carbon Dioxide 96%, Sulphur Dioxide 4.0%,  Pressure: 163.00
    Total Moons: 1
Balder:  Colony Cost: 0.00,  Temperature: -9.2,  Gravity: 0.21,  Orbit: 1.41b
    Carbon Dioxide 61%, Oxygen (0.11) 23.3%, Nitrogen 15.5%,  Pressure: 0.47
Odin:  Colony Cost: 0.00,  Temperature: -183.3,  Gravity: 2.90,  Orbit: 7.3b
    Odin - Moon 8:  Colony Cost: 6.80,  Temperature: -191.4,  Gravity: 0.11,  Orbit: 726k
    Hel:  Colony Cost: 6.50,  Temperature: -183.3,  Gravity: 0.19,  Orbit: 16.0m
    Total Moons: 21
Thor:  Colony Cost: 6.50,  Temperature: -218.7,  Gravity: 2.85,  Orbit: 19.8b
    Eir:  Colony Cost: 7.72,  Temperature: -216.0,  Gravity: 0.26,  Orbit: 711k
    Thor - Moon 8:  Colony Cost: 7.83,  Temperature: -218.7,  Gravity: 0.10,  Orbit: 790k
    Thor - Moon 10:  Colony Cost: 7.83,  Temperature: -218.7,  Gravity: 0.17,  Orbit: 1.50m
    Total Moons: 14
Loki:  Temperature: -233.6,  Gravity: 0.81,  Orbit: 38b
    Loki - Moon 11:  Colony Cost: 8.39,  Temperature: -233.6,  Gravity: 0.11,  Orbit: 250k
    Loki - Moon 17:  Colony Cost: 8.15,  Temperature: -227.4,  Gravity: 0.40,  Orbit: 3.2m
    Hydrogen 89%, Helium 10.6%, Neon 0.44%,  Pressure: 0.16
    Total Moons: 18
Freyja:  Colony Cost: 8.93,  Temperature: -248.1,  Gravity: 0.13,  Orbit: 72b
    Total Moons: 1
Tyr:  Colony Cost: 9.28,  Temperature: -257.4,  Gravity: 0.12,  Orbit: 158b
    Total Moons: 1
Asteroid Belt: 15

Jump Points
 1) Barnards Star (JG):    Distance: 10.0b   Bearing: 201

There's your answer :)
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: AbuDhabi on September 18, 2013, 09:55:57 PM
Balder is the colony I terraformed into usefulness.

Odin is. . .  a gas giant.  The text dump I gave you says it's habitable, but the System View shows a gas giant and says it's a gas giant. 

Potential Colonies list NEITHER.
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: Nathan_ on September 18, 2013, 10:18:45 PM
I believe this is an occasional bug with the galaxy map.
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: xeryon on September 19, 2013, 09:12:41 AM
Just a bug.  You can post your findings in the the bug report thread for Steve to address when he has time.
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: AbuDhabi on September 19, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
Thanks.  I will.
Title: Re: Where is that habitable world?
Post by: Asahibiiru on September 20, 2013, 03:36:01 AM
I encountered this problem too last week.

I'm pretty sure it was caused by an asteroid having enough gravity to be considered habitable in the lower end of the 90% acceptance range.