Ships of the Chamaran Hierarchy.

[darkevilme (OP)]

This is mainly as i'm still very new at this game i want to ask for advice and critique regarding my ship designs and how to improve them. I currently have the following ships.

Voyager Scout ships.
6 in service, 3 under construction. 3 lost in battle.

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Voyager class Scout    15000 tons     1217 Crew     2769 BP      TCS 300  TH 126  EM 2280
1200 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 4-54     Shields 76-300     Sensors 16/16/1/1     Damage Control Rating 26     PPV 66
Annual Failure Rate: 112%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1846 MSP    Max Repair 625 MSP    Est Time: 1.81 Years
Magazine 192    

J15000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 15000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Military Ion Engine (6)    Power 60    Fuel Use 80%    Signature 21    Armour 1    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 600,000 Litres    Range 90.0 billion km   (868 days at full power)
Shield Grade 1 (38)   Total Fuel Cost  608 Litres per day

Twin Gauss Cannon Turret (3x4)    Range 30,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
PD Fire Control (1)    Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0

Size 4 Missile Launcher (3)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control (1)     Range 86.4m km    Resolution 40
Size 4 Anti-ship Missile (48)  Speed: 15,000 km/s   End: 62.5m    Range: 56.2m km   WH: 8    Size: 4    TH: 65 / 39 / 19

PD Radar (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
EM Detection Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
Gravitational Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour
Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Destroyer Bombardment ship. none in service, 3 under construction.

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Destroyer class Bombardment Cruiser    14950 tons     1187 Crew     2485 BP      TCS 299  TH 126  EM 3000
1204 km/s     Armour 5-54     Shields 100-300     Sensors 16/16/1/1     Damage Control Rating 26     PPV 82
Annual Failure Rate: 111%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1662 MSP    Max Repair 100 MSP    Est Time: 4.97 Years
Magazine 448    

Military Ion Engine (6)    Power 60    Fuel Use 80%    Signature 21    Armour 1    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 600,000 Litres    Range 90.3 billion km   (868 days at full power)
Shield Grade 1 (50)   Total Fuel Cost  800 Litres per day

Twin Gauss Cannon Turret (3x4)    Range 30,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
PD Fire Control (1)    Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0

Size 4 Missile Launcher (7)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control (1)     Range 86.4m km    Resolution 40
Size 4 Anti-ship Missile (112)  Speed: 15,000 km/s   End: 62.5m    Range: 56.2m km   WH: 8    Size: 4    TH: 65 / 39 / 19

PD Radar (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
EM Detection Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
Gravitational Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour
Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

and our ordinance is. Size 4 Anti-ship Missile

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Missile Size: 4 MSP  (0.2 HS)     Warhead: 8    Armour: 0     Manoeuvre Rating: 13
Speed: 20000 km/s    Endurance: 62 minutes   Range: 75.0m km
Thermal Sensor Strength: 0.06    Detect Sig Strength 1000:  60,000 km
Cost Per Missile: 3.4683
Chance to Hit: 1k km/s 260%   3k km/s 78%   5k km/s 52%   10k km/s 26%
Materials Required:    2x Tritanium   0.06x Uridium   1.3833x Gallicite   Fuel x2500

Development Cost for Project: 347RP


[waresky]

Ciao Darkevil.

Am speack about Missile:

1)Research improve,Warhead missile charge..Missile drive speed and agility.
2)Best Anti-Ships missile are: fast-small: Size 2 ..50000km/s and agility 34 are vicious with a Warhead 10=deadly
3)Improve ECM and ECCM
4)Survey Vessels: now am build this Concept Design: a single JumpCapable CARRIER who load 2 small scoutGEO (800ton) 2 Grav (800tons) and 1 small tankers for support close those.
With my Carrier Scout are 2 JumpCapable Tankers for support Carrier,and my CARRIER are "SUPPLY VESSEL" design so for ur scouts u have: tankers AND supply.

Another point are Active sensors,raise up level:100 sensor capability

My Survey Squadroon arent armed: am build a dedicated Strike Squadroon just in case.

Another point : my Carrier have a awesome Active and passive sensors array.So if am show any enemy flee r easy way-

When am jump throu Jumppoint am waitn for 1 months with PASSIVE only,normally every Races come to patrol my "jump in" and so i can decide actions.

Little and few ideas:)

and..sorry but am english poor speak.

my 2 cent

[Rathos]

This is mainly as i'm still very new at this game i want to ask for advice and critique regarding my ship designs and how to improve them. I currently have the following ships.

Voyager Scout ships.
6 in service, 3 under construction. 3 lost in battle.

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Voyager class Scout    15000 tons     1217 Crew     2769 BP      TCS 300  TH 126  EM 2280
1200 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 4-54     Shields 76-300     Sensors 16/16/1/1     Damage Control Rating 26     PPV 66
Annual Failure Rate: 112%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1846 MSP    Max Repair 625 MSP    Est Time: 1.81 Years
Magazine 192    

J15000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 15000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Military Ion Engine (6)    Power 60    Fuel Use 80%    Signature 21    Armour 1    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 600,000 Litres    Range 90.0 billion km   (868 days at full power)
Shield Grade 1 (38)   Total Fuel Cost  608 Litres per day

Twin Gauss Cannon Turret (3x4)    Range 30,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
PD Fire Control (1)    Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0

Size 4 Missile Launcher (3)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control (1)     Range 86.4m km    Resolution 40
Size 4 Anti-ship Missile (48)  Speed: 15,000 km/s   End: 62.5m    Range: 56.2m km   WH: 8    Size: 4    TH: 65 / 39 / 19

PD Radar (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
EM Detection Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
Gravitational Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour
Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Destroyer Bombardment ship. none in service, 3 under construction.

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Destroyer class Bombardment Cruiser    14950 tons     1187 Crew     2485 BP      TCS 299  TH 126  EM 3000
1204 km/s     Armour 5-54     Shields 100-300     Sensors 16/16/1/1     Damage Control Rating 26     PPV 82
Annual Failure Rate: 111%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1662 MSP    Max Repair 100 MSP    Est Time: 4.97 Years
Magazine 448    

Military Ion Engine (6)    Power 60    Fuel Use 80%    Signature 21    Armour 1    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 600,000 Litres    Range 90.3 billion km   (868 days at full power)
Shield Grade 1 (50)   Total Fuel Cost  800 Litres per day

Twin Gauss Cannon Turret (3x4)    Range 30,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
PD Fire Control (1)    Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0

Size 4 Missile Launcher (7)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control (1)     Range 86.4m km    Resolution 40
Size 4 Anti-ship Missile (112)  Speed: 15,000 km/s   End: 62.5m    Range: 56.2m km   WH: 8    Size: 4    TH: 65 / 39 / 19

PD Radar (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
EM Detection Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
Gravitational Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour
Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

and our ordinance is. Size 4 Anti-ship Missile

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Missile Size: 4 MSP  (0.2 HS)     Warhead: 8    Armour: 0     Manoeuvre Rating: 13
Speed: 20000 km/s    Endurance: 62 minutes   Range: 75.0m km
Thermal Sensor Strength: 0.06    Detect Sig Strength 1000:  60,000 km
Cost Per Missile: 3.4683
Chance to Hit: 1k km/s 260%   3k km/s 78%   5k km/s 52%   10k km/s 26%
Materials Required:    2x Tritanium   0.06x Uridium   1.3833x Gallicite   Fuel x2500

Development Cost for Project: 347RP


Your radar's have 204k range, while your missiles have 75 million kilometer range. You need a bigger array so it can accommodate the firecontrol's range.

[welchbloke]

Generally speaking in Aurora 'speed is life' your designs are pretty slow and an intelligent opponent will stay outside the range of your beam weapons and pick you apart with missiles.  You could lean towards an integrated fleet concept with 2 types one exclusively beam armed the other missile armed, then use the additional mass for fuel and engines.

[darkevilme (OP)]

@Rathos: So I can't fire missiles at something i dont have visible to active sensors?

@Welchbloke: How fast should my ships be?

[waresky]

u must rsearch design and produce a Active Sensors range=or above Missile Range and Missile FIRE CONTROL range.
Speed maximu available? more than 20000km/s for ships and more than 100.000 km/s for missiles.more more than:)

But u must have a right Sensors range=missile range=Active sensors range.Remember u can shoot missile from another ships aquisitions target actively..
So u can build a little Missile Boats without ACTIVE sensors (but MISSILE FIRE CONTROL YES!) and another little ships with a very good Sensors Array.

learn to build "SPECIALIZED" ships.Are the BEST.

[waresky]

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HMS Alaska Mk2b class Scout Carrier    30000 tons     2854 Crew     13829 BP      TCS 600  TH 1500  EM 0
5000 km/s    JR 4-100     Armour 1-86     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1120/960/0/0     Damage Control Rating 152     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 99%    IFR: 1.4%    Maintenance Capacity 23746 MSP    Max Repair 3360 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 5000 tons    
Maintenance Modules: 4 module(s) capable of supporting ships of 800 tons

J30000(4-100) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 30000 tons    Distance 100k km     Squadron Size 4
M-TYPE Solid Core Anti-matter Drive E3 (12)    Power 250    Fuel Use 30%    Signature 125    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 1,500,000 Litres    Range 300.0 billion km   (694 days at full power)

Active Search Sensor S2240-R18 (50%) (1)     GPS 40320     Range 403.2m km    Resolution 18
Thermal Sensor TH35-1120 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 1120     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1120m km
EM Detection Sensor EM30-960 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 960     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  960m km

ECM 60

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


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HMS Firestorm class Missile Destroyer    4550 tons     491 Crew     3682.6 BP      TCS 91  TH 468  EM 0
10285 km/s     Armour 2-24     Shields 0-0     Sensors 288/96/0/0     Damage Control Rating 10     PPV 8
Annual Failure Rate: 18%    IFR: 0.3%    Maintenance Capacity 4553 MSP    Max Repair 1200 MSP
Magazine 329    

M-Gas Core Anti-matter Drive E3 (3)    Power 312    Fuel Use 30%    Signature 156    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 80,000 Litres    Range 105.5 billion km   (118 days at full power)

ASM-2 RR8 (4)    Missile Size 2    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC320-R18 (50%) (1)     Range 172.8m km    Resolution 18
Havok A10-2 (164)  Speed: 64,000 km/s   End: 35.1m    Range: 135m km   WH: 10    Size: 2    TH: 725 / 435 / 217

Active Search Sensor S800-R18 (50%) (1)     GPS 14400     Range 144.0m km    Resolution 18
Thermal Sensor TH9-288 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 288     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  288m km
EM Detection Sensor EM3-96 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 96     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  96m km

Compact ECCM-6 (1)         ECM 60

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


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Essex Mk2 class Geosurvey Ship    900 tons     130 Crew     385.4 BP      TCS 18  TH 93.75  EM 0
6944 km/s     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/3     Damage Control Rating 22     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 2%    IFR: 0%    Maintenance Capacity 602 MSP    Max Repair 200 MSP

Internal Confinement Fusion Drive E6 (1)    Power 125    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 93.75    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 30,000 Litres    Range 100.0 billion km   (166 days at full power)

Advanced Geological Sensors (1)   3 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

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Essex G 1 class Gravsurvey Ship    1000 tons     122 Crew     575.4 BP      TCS 20  TH 78  EM 0
7800 km/s     Armour 1-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/6/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 4%    IFR: 0.1%    Maintenance Capacity 629 MSP    Max Repair 200 MSP

M-Type MCF Drive E3.75 (1)    Power 156    Fuel Use 37.5%    Signature 78    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres    Range 240.0 billion km   (356 days at full power)

Advanced Gravitational Sensors (2)   6 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

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HMS Arleigh Burke class Missile Frigate    4900 tons     421 Crew     1594.28 BP      TCS 98  TH 468  EM 0
9551 km/s     Armour 1-25     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 4     PPV 8
Annual Failure Rate: 48%    IFR: 0.7%    Maintenance Capacity 813 MSP    Max Repair 360 MSP
Magazine 630    

M-Type MCF Drive E3.75 (6)    Power 156    Fuel Use 37.5%    Signature 78    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 80,000 Litres    Range 78.4 billion km   (94 days at full power)

ASM-2 RR8 (4)    Missile Size 2    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC240-R18 (50%) (1)     Range 129.6m km    Resolution 18
Havok-2 (315)  Speed: 50,000 km/s   End: 45m    Range: 135m km   WH: 10    Size: 2    TH: 500 / 300 / 150

ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


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HMS Eyer Mk1 class Early Warning Craft    9950 tons     1032 Crew     5554.8 BP      TCS 49.75  TH 936  EM 0
9407 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 1-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 416/384/0/0     Damage Control Rating 17     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 47%    IFR: 0.7%    Maintenance Capacity 5757 MSP    Max Repair 1920 MSP

J10000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 10000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
M-Type MCF Drive E3.75 (12)    Power 156    Fuel Use 37.5%    Signature 78    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 150,000 Litres    Range 72.4 billion km   (89 days at full power)

CIWS-160 ECCM2 (1x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Active Search Sensor S1280-R18 (50%) (1)     GPS 23040     Range 230.4m km    Resolution 18
Thermal Sensor TH13-416 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 416     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  416m km
EM Detection Sensor EM12-384 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 384     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  384m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 25% of normal

ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 20

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

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HMS Stealer III class Stealth Boat    3350 tons     349 Crew     2130 BP      TCS 4.69  TH 375  EM 0
11194 km/s     Armour 1-19     Shields 0-0     Sensors 416/384/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 17%    IFR: 0.2%    Maintenance Capacity 1987 MSP    Max Repair 624 MSP

M-TYPE Solid Core Anti-matter Drive E3 (3)    Power 250    Fuel Use 30%    Signature 125    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 179.1 billion km   (185 days at full power)

GB C-R Active Search Sensor S50-R10 (25%) (1)     GPS 500     Range 5.0m km    Resolution 10
Thermal Sensor TH13-416 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 416     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  416m km
EM Detection Sensor EM12-384 (50%) (1)     Sensitivity 384     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  384m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 7% of normal

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

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HMS Fueler Sm1 class Small Tanker    800 tons     64 Crew     229.2 BP      TCS 16  TH 78  EM 0
9750 km/s     Armour 1-7     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 5%    IFR: 0.1%    Maintenance Capacity 179 MSP    Max Repair 117 MSP

M-Type MCF Drive E3.75 (1)    Power 156    Fuel Use 37.5%    Signature 78    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 400,000 Litres    Range 2400.0 billion km   (2849 days at full power)

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

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HMS Gravitic class Small GravSurvey    800 tons     81 Crew     379.2 BP      TCS 16  TH 78  EM 0
9750 km/s     Armour 1-7     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/3/0     Damage Control Rating 2     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 2%    IFR: 0%    Maintenance Capacity 592 MSP    Max Repair 200 MSP

M-Type MCF Drive E3.75 (1)    Power 156    Fuel Use 37.5%    Signature 78    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 600.0 billion km   (712 days at full power)

Advanced Gravitational Sensors (1)   3 Survey Points Per Hour

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

[Beersatron]

A caveat to Waresky's designs is that he has some pretty high tech levels, so if you are playing a 'normal' game and just have the first couple of levels in a Tech Line you will not be able to match his stats.

Personally, I go for unarmed GE (geological) and GV (grav) designs at 10k tons. I then have either Destroyer or Cruiser Squadrons on call as backup.

I do not have the designs on this PC, but this is my fleet makeup to give you an idea:

Survey Cmd - GE A
Primary Default order to survey nearest Body
Secondary Default order to return to entry gate
Conditional Order to refuel at nearest colony or tanker within 4 jumps when fuel level hits 30%

6 ships in the TG -> give the TG the order to 'Transit and Divide', they split into 6 TGs = Survey Cmd - GE A [I/II/III/IV/V/VI]. They go about surveying and then will return to the gate when finished. When they are all on the gate I select the parent TG, Survey Cmd - GE A I and click on 'Assemble' which merges all the children fleets. I then check the galaxy map for the next system to survey.

Sol Sector - 1st Fleet - CruRon 1 (all 15k tons)
No default orders
No conditional orders

1 Jump Cruiser which also has my most sensitive Active (I sometimes fit 3 separate types), TH (thermal) and EM (electromagnetic) sensors.
1 Escort Cruiser for anti-missile defense
2 Attack Cruiser for anti-ship attack

I always give myself Jump Squadron Size 4 and try to squeeze in a couple of CIWS to the Jump Cruiser and Attack Cruiser as the single Escort Cruiser can be swamped if you run into a large enemy fleet.

[Hawkeye]

Ok, here you go

I am rather early in my game, have only reached Nuclear Pulse Engines and encountered my first hostile aliens some 4 years ago.

Speed for NP-engine warships is generally around 2.500 to 3.000 km/s

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Decius class Missile Destroyer    7500 tons     781 Crew     975.52 BP      TCS 150  TH 400  EM 150
2666 km/s     Armour 3-34     Shields 5-375     Sensors 18/12/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 32
Annual Failure Rate: 90%    IFR: 1.2%    Maint Capacity 406 MSP    Max Repair 72 MSP    Est Time: 3.07 Years
Magazine 413    

Nuclear Pulse Engine E10 (10)    Power 40    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 300,000 Litres    Range 72.0 billion km   (312 days at full power)
Delta R375/20 Shields (2)   Total Fuel Cost  40 Litres per day

Catapulta Werfer-4 (8)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 40
Missile Fire Control FC60-R50 (1)     Range 90.0m km    Resolution 50
Gladius II ASM-4 (103)  Speed: 16,000 km/s   End: 52.1m    Range: 50m km   WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 74 / 44 / 22

Active Search Sensor S72-R80 (1)     GPS 5760     Range 57.6m km    Resolution 80
Thermal Sensor TH3-18 (1)     Sensitivity 18     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  18m km
EM Detection Sensor EM2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km
The Decius class is intended to boost the missile firepower of the larger Scipio Class Missilecruiser.

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Fabius class Destroyer Escort    7500 tons     697 Crew     980.68 BP      TCS 150  TH 400  EM 0
2666 km/s     Armour 4-34     Shields 0-0     Sensors 18/12/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 26
Annual Failure Rate: 64%    IFR: 0.9%    Maint Capacity 572 MSP    Max Repair 144 MSP    Est Time: 3.04 Years
Magazine 260    

Nuclear Pulse Engine E10 (10)    Power 40    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 300,000 Litres    Range 72.0 billion km   (312 days at full power)

Quad 100mm/L15R10 Meson Cannon Turret (1x4)    Range 15,000km     TS: 12000 km/s     Power 12-8     RM 1.5    ROF 10        1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 12-12000 (1)    Max Range: 24,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     58 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pebble Bed Reactor 3 (1)     Total Power Output 3    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Pebble Bed Reactor 6 (1)     Total Power Output 6    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Manubalista Werfer-1 (6)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC48-R1 (1)     Range 1.4m km    Resolution 1
Pugio II AMM-1 (260)  Speed: 23,200 km/s   End: 2.9m    Range: 4m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 131 / 78 / 39

Active Search Sensor S144-R1 (1)     GPS 144     Range 1.4m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor S12-R20 (1)     GPS 240     Range 2.4m km    Resolution 20
Thermal Sensor TH3-18 (1)     Sensitivity 18     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  18m km
EM Detection Sensor EM2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km
The Fabius is the only dedicated escort in the Roman fleet so far.

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Maximus class Destroyer    7500 tons     806 Crew     1008 BP      TCS 150  TH 400  EM 150
2666 km/s     Armour 6-34     Shields 5-375     Sensors 12/6/0/0     Damage Control Rating 5     PPV 38
Annual Failure Rate: 90%    IFR: 1.2%    Maint Capacity 420 MSP    Max Repair 43 MSP    Est Time: 4.17 Years

Nuclear Pulse Engine E10 (10)    Power 40    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 300,000 Litres    Range 72.0 billion km   (312 days at full power)
Delta R375/20 Shields (2)   Total Fuel Cost  40 Litres per day

400mm/L150/R20 Pilum (4)    Range 150,000km     TS: 3000 km/s     Power 10-3    ROF 20        4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
Twin 100mm/L15R10 Meson Cannon Turret (1x2)    Range 15,000km     TS: 12000 km/s     Power 6-4     RM 1.5    ROF 10        1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 12-12000 (1)    Max Range: 24,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     58 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S04 96-3000 (2)    Max Range: 192,000 km   TS: 3000 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Pebble Bed Reactor 6 (1)     Total Power Output 6    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Pebble Bed Reactor 12 (1)     Total Power Output 12    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor S36-R20 (1)     GPS 720     Range 7.2m km    Resolution 20
Active Search Sensor S24-R1 (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1)     Sensitivity 6     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  6m km
The Maximus is the close-in-fighter in the destroyer class. Heavily armored it still packs a reasonable punch.

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Pyrrhus class Cruiser    12000 tons     1324 Crew     1521 BP      TCS 240  TH 640  EM 0
2666 km/s     Armour 6-46     Shields 0-0     Sensors 12/6/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 63
Annual Failure Rate: 144%    IFR: 2%    Maint Capacity 634 MSP    Max Repair 43 MSP    Est Time: 4.05 Years

Nuclear Pulse Engine E10 (16)    Power 40    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 450,000 Litres    Range 67.5 billion km   (292 days at full power)

Particle Torpedo-4 (9)    Range 150,000km     TS: 3000 km/s     Power 10-3    ROF 20        4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
CIWS-120 (2x4)    Range 1000 km     TS: 12000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Fire Control S04 96-3000 (3)    Max Range: 192,000 km   TS: 3000 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Pebble Bed Reactor 12 (2)     Total Power Output 24    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Pebble Bed Reactor 3 (1)     Total Power Output 3    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor S24-R1 (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor S12-R16 (1)     GPS 192     Range 1.9m km    Resolution 16
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1)     Sensitivity 6     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  6m km
The Pyrrhus was added to the military designs, after encountering an alien Race in two systems adjecent to Sol, which fielded numberous gunboats. As three torpedo hits were considered sufficient to achieve a mssion kill, the original plans, using 10 torpedos and 2 firecons were altered to allow the cruiser to engage three enemy gunboats at once.

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Scipio class Missile Cruiser    12000 tons     1240 Crew     1542.36 BP      TCS 240  TH 640  EM 840
2666 km/s     Armour 3-46     Shields 28-375     Sensors 12/6/0/0     Damage Control Rating 9     PPV 55
Annual Failure Rate: 128%    IFR: 1.8%    Maint Capacity 723 MSP    Max Repair 72 MSP    Est Time: 3.46 Years
Magazine 548    

Nuclear Pulse Engine E10 (16)    Power 40    Fuel Use 100%    Signature 40    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 400,000 Litres    Range 60.0 billion km   (260 days at full power)
Delta R375/20 Shields (11)   Total Fuel Cost  220 Litres per day

Triple 100mm/L15R10 Meson Cannon Turret (1x3)    Range 15,000km     TS: 12000 km/s     Power 9-6     RM 1.5    ROF 10        1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S02 12-12000 (1)    Max Range: 24,000 km   TS: 12000 km/s     58 17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pebble Bed Reactor 6 (1)     Total Power Output 6    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Catapulta Werfer-4 (10)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 40
Missile Fire Control FC60-R20 (1)     Range 36.0m km    Resolution 20
Missile Fire Control FC60-R50 (1)     Range 90.0m km    Resolution 50
Gladius II ASM-4 (137)  Speed: 16,000 km/s   End: 52.1m    Range: 50m km   WH: 4    Size: 4    TH: 74 / 44 / 22

Active Search Sensor S72-R80 (1)     GPS 5760     Range 57.6m km    Resolution 80
Active Search Sensor S24-R1 (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH2-12 (1)     Sensitivity 12     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  12m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-6 (1)     Sensitivity 6     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  6m km
The main missile combatant of the Roman Fleet.


The fleet has decent anti-missile-capability, because most ships have a pd-turret.
The main problem I see is in close combat with hostile FACs, as those have been observed to move at 10.000 km/s which is a wee bit much for my torpedo tubes  

[darkevilme (OP)]

In accordance with advise from wise council the ships of the fleet were refitted to new and improved designs before returning to Yokohama.
The Chamaran fleet had their first serious fleet combat engagements today against hostile aliens. The result was inconclusive on a strategic level as our fleet was forced to withdraw due to ammunition expenditure. We killed their gunboat squadron without incident but their larger vessels had a disheartening tendency to shoot down our missile salvos with vast volleys of micro missiles and what's worse is that in comparison the Gauss guns originally intended as point defence failed miserably at protecting our vessels. Luckily the Alien scum's counter attacks were pitiful and weak in comparison to their missile interception ability and only minor damage to one ship was caused by the engagement.

Current ship designs:
6 Destroyers in service. Dependent on the scouts for jump capability but now fully optimized for the goal of bombarding planets and spacecraft with a lot of missiles.

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Destroyer R1 class Bombardment Cruiser    15000 tons     1290 Crew     2756 BP      TCS 300  TH 224  EM 3000
2133 km/s     Armour 6-54     Shields 100-300     Sensors 16/16/0/0     Damage Control Rating 26     PPV 48
Annual Failure Rate: 112%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1837 MSP    Max Repair 120 MSP    Est Time: 4.72 Years
Magazine 768    

Military Magneto-plasma Drive (8)    Power 80    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 28    Armour 1    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 800,000 Litres    Range 160.0 billion km   (868 days at full power)
Shield Grade 1 (50)   Total Fuel Cost  800 Litres per day

Size 4 Missile Launcher (12)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control (1)     Range 86.4m km    Resolution 40
Size 4 Anti-ship Missile (192)  Speed: 15,000 km/s   End: 62.5m    Range: 56.2m km   WH: 8    Size: 4    TH: 65 / 39 / 19

PD Radar (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Situational Awareness Radar (1)     GPS 7680     Range 76.8m km    Resolution 80
Thermal Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
EM Detection Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km

ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposesNine Scouts in service. The old Gun toting and jump capable survey ship design.

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Voyager R1 class Scout    15000 tons     1245 Crew     3068 BP      TCS 300  TH 196  EM 2280
1866 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 4-54     Shields 76-300     Sensors 16/16/1/1     Damage Control Rating 26     PPV 48
Annual Failure Rate: 112%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 2045 MSP    Max Repair 625 MSP    Est Time: 1.95 Years
Magazine 192    

J15000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 15000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Military Magneto-plasma Drive (7)    Power 80    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 28    Armour 1    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 700,000 Litres    Range 140.0 billion km   (868 days at full power)
Shield Grade 1 (38)   Total Fuel Cost  608 Litres per day

Twin Gauss Cannon Turret (2x4)    Range 30,000km     TS: 20000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
PD Fire Control (1)    Max Range: 64,000 km   TS: 16000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0

Size 4 Missile Launcher (3)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control (1)     Range 86.4m km    Resolution 40
Size 4 Anti-ship Missile (48)  Speed: 15,000 km/s   End: 62.5m    Range: 56.2m km   WH: 8    Size: 4    TH: 65 / 39 / 19

Situational Awareness Radar (1)     GPS 7680     Range 76.8m km    Resolution 80
PD Radar (1)     GPS 24     Range 240k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
EM Detection Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
Gravitational Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour
Geological Survey Sensors (1)   1 Survey Points Per Hour

ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
No Predator's in service, shipyard refit in progress. This new design is intended to be able to chase down Yok alien space craft and kill the hell out of them.

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Predator class Cruiser    40000 tons     3710 Crew     10123 BP      TCS 800  TH 1120  EM 3900
4000 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 4-104     Shields 130-300     Sensors 16/16/0/0     Damage Control Rating 100     PPV 84
Annual Failure Rate: 160%    IFR: 2.2%    Maint Capacity 12654 MSP    Max Repair 2500 MSP    Est Time: 2.05 Years
Magazine 768    

Class 40000 Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 40000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Internal Confinement Fusion Drive (32)    Power 100    Fuel Use 60%    Signature 35    Armour 1    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 2,400,000 Litres    Range 180.0 billion km   (520 days at full power)
Shield Grade 1 (65)   Total Fuel Cost  1,040 Litres per day

CIWS-160 (6x4)    Range 1000 km     TS: 16000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
15cm Penetrator Railgun (6x4)    Range 120,000km     TS: 4000 km/s     Power 9-5     RM 4    ROF 10        3 3 3 3 2 2 1 1 1 1
Railgun Fire Control (1)    Max Range: 192,000 km   TS: 8000 km/s     95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
Tokamak Fusion Reactor (4)     Total Power Output 32    Armour 1    Exp 5%

Size 4 Missile Launcher (12)    Missile Size 4    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control (1)     Range 86.4m km    Resolution 40
Slasher Anti-ship Missile R1 (192)  Speed: 25,000 km/s   End: 50m    Range: 75m km   WH: 8    Size: 4    TH: 108 / 65 / 32

Situational Awareness Radar (1)     GPS 7680     Range 76.8m km    Resolution 80
Thermal Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km
EM Detection Sensor Grade 1 (1)     Sensitivity 16     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  16m km

ECM 10

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


[Rathos]

Currently the only warships in service by the Terran Imperium. The Enterprise II design has managed to chart 20 systems and has been victorious in eight different battles. None have every been destroyed as their 15 inch high-density duranium armor proved capable of withstanding hundreds of missiles from the one engagement where the enemy held the upper hand. Regardless the torpedo bays with their Ranger and Slammer torpedoes have never found a ship they couldn't obliterate with a direct hit. The 10 AMM and 10 ASM launchers provide a high enough rate of fire to overwhelm any defenses a enemy might have while wearing them down with their low yield missiles and creating a hole for a torpedo to fly in through. The radar suites are high powered affairs that push the sensor technology to its limit.

The only downside to them is their relative hunger for maintenance supplies and need to be fueled by Belknap tanker ships. The Belknaps have been able to more than satisfy the need for fuel throughout the entire Imperium, including the Enterprises. These giant mammoth of ships simply fly directly into the atmosphere of a gas giant with known sorium reserves, and being able to withstand the massive radiation and pressure, abosrb the precious gas and process it into millions of gallons of fuel. Currently the empire has four Belknaps in service in strategic locations, two gathering fuel from massive super Jovian, while the other two deliver the fuel to its recipients. When the 500 million gallon tanks are down to 10% the ships will switch places.

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Enterprise II class Scout Cruiser    150000 tons     15472 Crew     114018.62 BP      TCS 3000  TH 7520  EM 0
2506 km/s    JR 3-50     Armour 15-251     Shields 0-0     Sensors 300/300/5/0     Damage Control Rating 708     PPV 170
Annual Failure Rate: 254%    IFR: 3.5%    Maint Capacity 336338 MSP    Max Repair 90000 MSP    Est Time: 1.23 Years
Magazine 1516    

J150000(3-50) Military Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 150000 tons    Distance 50k km     Squadron Size 3
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E3 (40)    Power 188    Fuel Use 30%    Signature 188    Armour 0    Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 6,650,000 Litres    Range 265.9 billion km   (1228 days at full power)

12cm C2 Visible Light Laser (10)    Range 80,000km     TS: 2506 km/s     Power 4-2     RM 2    ROF 10        4 4 2 2 1 1 1 1 0 0
CIWS-80 (5x4)    Range 1000 km     TS: 8000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Fire Control S12 48-8000 (1)    Max Range: 96,000 km   TS: 8000 km/s     90 79 69 58 48 38 27 17 6 0
Gas-Cooled Fast Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (5)     Total Power Output 90    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Size 100 Missile Launcher (1)    Missile Size 100    Rate of Fire 1000
Size 1 Missile Launcher (10)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Size 2 Missile Launcher (10)    Missile Size 2    Rate of Fire 20
Missile Fire Control FC357-R14 (1)     Range 149.9m km    Resolution 14
Missile Fire Control FC336-R100 (1)     Range 1,008.0m km    Resolution 100
Missile Fire Control FC336-R1 (1)     Range 10.1m km    Resolution 1
Firestorm 90mkm Class II (148)  Speed: 48,000 km/s   End: 31.2m    Range: 90m km   WH: 1    Size: 2    TH: 480 / 288 / 144
Stormfury 225mkm ASM Class II (10)  Speed: 36,000 km/s   End: 104.2m    Range: 225m km   WH: 1    Size: 2    TH: 360 / 216 / 108
Fireshield 1.8mkm Class II (400)  Speed: 39,800 km/s   End: 0.7m    Range: 1.8m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 557 / 334 / 167
Ranger 225mkm ASM Torpedo Class II (4)  Speed: 32,000 km/s   End: 117.2m    Range: 225m km   WH: 50    Size: 100    TH: 277 / 166 / 83
Slammer 135mkm ASM Torpedo Class II (4)  Speed: 40,000 km/s   End: 56.2m    Range: 135m km   WH: 100    Size: 100    TH: 346 / 208 / 104

Active Search Sensor S1050-R1 (1)     GPS 1050     Range 10.5m km    Resolution 1
Active Search Sensor S1050-R100 (1)     GPS 105000     Range 1,050.0m km    Resolution 100
Active Search Sensor S1050-R14 (1)     GPS 14700     Range 147.0m km    Resolution 14
Thermal Sensor TH50-300 (1)     Sensitivity 300     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  300m km
EM Detection Sensor EM50-300 (1)     Sensitivity 300     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  300m km
Gravitational Survey Sensors (5)   5 Survey Points Per Hour

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


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Belknap class Fuel Harvester    11192300 tons     145520 Crew     252492.4 BP      TCS 223846  TH 75000  EM 0
335 km/s     Armour 1-4457     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 1     PPV 0
Maint Capacity 14 MSP    Max Repair 60 MSP
Fuel Harvester: 2000 modules producing 80000000 litres per annum

Ion Engine E0.8 (500)    Power 150    Fuel Use 8%    Signature 150    Armour 0    Exp 1%
Fuel Capacity 500,000,000 Litres    Range 1005.0 billion km   (34722 days at full power)

This design is classed as a commercial vessel for maintenance purposes


[Erik L]

The biggest problem with the very large ships is the speed.

Even with the engine tech you have, you are slower than my designs with Ion drives. With what you have tech-wise, I'd be pushing 9,000-10,000km/s. And missiles crowding the 50k km/s mark.

[darkevilme (OP)]

@Erik:How much space DO you devote to drives? o.0
I did a proposed Refit version of the Predator to try and improve the speed and even if i ENTIRELY remove the missile armament and replace that with drives all i get is 5500kms as opposed to 4000km.

@Rathos: Now that's a neat scout ship design.

[waresky]

@rathos: am love Imperium Naval Design posture u have:))..(150k tons are "little" for Empire yes..but Steve's program beat hard who design this ships concept..yeah?)..

enough: ur 150k tons ships r awesome in Armor-Armaments..but the overall Maintenance costs are pohibitive for a early Epire stage u agree on me?

Am repeat meself: when an "Empire" reach the 100's Colony and hundreds mining Colony,sure ur design take benfits..BUT..SPEED r main trouble.

If u encounter a "Intelligent" opponent who "understand" how rest OUT MISSILE range,(hope u undertand what am mean:D) ur ships become very useless.
Raise speed,lower mass: deadly

[waresky]

A caveat to Waresky's designs is that he has some pretty high tech levels, so if you are playing a 'normal' game and just have the first couple of levels in a Tech Line you will not be able to match his stats.,..."cut"

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My Campaign start very normal,PRE-TECH.
Ive lucky none NPR encounter atm.
Second: ive work very hard on my MIssile Research area.
And at last am play from 2025...now am in 2169:D..so obviously my tech r "high"

Only tht.

AM HATE cheat and SM mode on.

AM LOVE rolepaying mode ON,even at REAL dead.
If ALien beat me,am accept.
I love this game and am will play ever in "Role" concept.

my 2 cents