Terran Directorate ships

[Aldaris (OP)]

Okay, here's my 10000 ton designs which haven't been locked yet. I've tried taking into account the advice and holepoking provided so far.

Missile battelcruiser

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Cobra class Battlecruiser    10000 tons     1033 Crew     2531.2 BP      TCS 200  TH 500  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 7-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 10     PPV 45
Annual Failure Rate: 80%    IFR: 1.1%    Maint Capacity 1582 MSP    Max Repair 630 MSP    Est Time: 2.05 Years
Magazine 645    

Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (8)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 160,000 Litres    Range 72.0 billion km   (166 days at full power)

Size 3 Missile Launcher (15)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC60-R30 (70%) (1)     Range 60.5m km    Resolution 30
ASM-3-Javelin II (213)  Speed: 50,000 km/s   End: 16m    Range: 48m km   WH: 5    Size: 3    TH: 200 / 120 / 60

Active Search Sensor MR67-R20 (50%) (1)     GPS 8400     Range 67.2m km    Resolution 20

ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Laser PD ship

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Attorney class Escort    10000 tons     1203 Crew     3391 BP      TCS 200  TH 500  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 6-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 90
Annual Failure Rate: 114%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1484 MSP    Max Repair 180 MSP    Est Time: 3.3 Years

Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (8)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 160,000 Litres    Range 72.0 billion km   (166 days at full power)

Twin 15cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (9x2)    Range 240,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 12-12     RM 5    ROF 5        6 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 3 3
Laser Fire Control S06 120-10000 (2)    Max Range: 240,000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     96 92 88 83 79 75 71 67 62 58
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (4)     Total Power Output 20    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (10)     Total Power Output 100    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor (Point Defense) MR0-R1 (50%) (1)     GPS 21     Range 231k km    Resolution 1

ECM 20

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
AMM Area Defense Cruiser

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Embasy class Area Defence Cruiser    10000 tons     825 Crew     2444.1 BP      TCS 200  TH 500  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 6-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 23
Annual Failure Rate: 114%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1069 MSP    Max Repair 273 MSP    Est Time: 2.14 Years
Magazine 1073    

Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (8)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 120,000 Litres    Range 54.0 billion km   (125 days at full power)

Size 1 AMM Launcher (23)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC3-R1 (70%) (3)     Range 3.0m km    Resolution 1
AMM-1-Shield III (1073)  Speed: 40,000 km/s   End: 1.5m    Range: 3.6m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 466 / 280 / 140

Active Search Sensor MR3-R1 (1)     GPS 273     Range 3.0m km    Resolution 1

ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

Heavily armoured jump ship

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Mentor class Jump Ship    10000 tons     778 Crew     2648 BP      TCS 200  TH 812.5  EM 0
8125 km/s    JR 4-500     Armour 10-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 40/40/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 100%    IFR: 1.4%    Maint Capacity 2324 MSP    Max Repair 650 MSP    Est Time: 2.19 Years

J10000(4-500) Assault Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 10000 tons    Distance 500k km     Squadron Size 4
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (13)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 200,000 Litres    Range 90.0 billion km   (128 days at full power)

CIWS-200 (1x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Thermal Sensor TH5-40 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  40m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-40 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  40m km

ECM 20

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


[UnLimiTeD]

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Cobra class Battlecruiser    10000 tons     1033 Crew     2531.2 BP      TCS 200  TH 500  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 7-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 10     PPV 45
Annual Failure Rate: 80%    IFR: 1.1%    Maint Capacity 1582 MSP    Max Repair 630 MSP    Est Time: 2.05 Years
Magazine 645    

Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (8)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 160,000 Litres    Range 72.0 billion km   (166 days at full power)

Size 3 Missile Launcher (15)    Missile Size 3    Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC60-R30 (70%) (1)     Range 60.5m km    Resolution 30
ASM-3-Javelin II (213)  Speed: 50,000 km/s   End: 16m    Range: 48m km   WH: 5    Size: 3    TH: 200 / 120 / 60

Active Search Sensor MR67-R20 (50%) (1)     GPS 8400     Range 67.2m km    Resolution 20

ECCM-2 (1)         ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

Well rounded. I take those are reduced size launchers? The fire rate could probably use a boost.
However, if done correctly, I don't think you need expensive electronic hardening on a ship fighting at range, that should normally be supported by a fleet scout.

Laser PD ship

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Attorney class Escort    10000 tons     1203 Crew     3391 BP      TCS 200  TH 500  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 6-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 90
Annual Failure Rate: 114%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1484 MSP    Max Repair 180 MSP    Est Time: 3.3 Years

Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (8)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 160,000 Litres    Range 72.0 billion km   (166 days at full power)

Twin 15cm C6 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (9x2)    Range 240,000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 12-12     RM 5    ROF 5        6 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 3 3
Laser Fire Control S06 120-10000 (2)    Max Range: 240,000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     96 92 88 83 79 75 71 67 62 58
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (4)     Total Power Output 20    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (10)     Total Power Output 100    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor (Point Defense) MR0-R1 (50%) (1)     GPS 21     Range 231k km    Resolution 1

ECM 20

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes

In this specific case, I would really take another firecontrol on board, maybe at the cost of a turret.
If you use AMMs as your primary defense, the Lasers will mainly be used to fight off stragglers, which is more likely to be small salvo sizes, letting all that firepower go to waste.

AMM Area Defense Cruiser

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Embasy class Area Defence Cruiser    10000 tons     825 Crew     2444.1 BP      TCS 200  TH 500  EM 0
5000 km/s     Armour 6-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 7     PPV 23
Annual Failure Rate: 114%    IFR: 1.6%    Maint Capacity 1069 MSP    Max Repair 273 MSP    Est Time: 2.14 Years
Magazine 1073    

Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (8)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 120,000 Litres    Range 54.0 billion km   (125 days at full power)

Size 1 AMM Launcher (23)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 10
Missile Fire Control FC3-R1 (70%) (3)     Range 3.0m km    Resolution 1
AMM-1-Shield III (1073)  Speed: 40,000 km/s   End: 1.5m    Range: 3.6m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 466 / 280 / 140

Active Search Sensor MR3-R1 (1)     GPS 273     Range 3.0m km    Resolution 1

ECM 20

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


I think it's written Embassy.

Did you notice your AMMs are slower than your ASMs?
You couldn't even fight off your own missiles if they don't come directly ahead at you.

Heavily armoured jump ship

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Mentor class Jump Ship    10000 tons     778 Crew     2648 BP      TCS 200  TH 812.5  EM 0
8125 km/s    JR 4-500     Armour 10-41     Shields 0-0     Sensors 40/40/0/0     Damage Control Rating 8     PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 100%    IFR: 1.4%    Maint Capacity 2324 MSP    Max Repair 650 MSP    Est Time: 2.19 Years

J10000(4-500) Assault Jump Drive     Max Ship Size 10000 tons    Distance 500k km     Squadron Size 4
Magnetic Confinement Fusion Drive E4 (13)    Power 125    Fuel Use 40%    Signature 62.5    Armour 0    Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 200,000 Litres    Range 90.0 billion km   (128 days at full power)

CIWS-200 (1x6)    Range 1000 km     TS: 20000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Thermal Sensor TH5-40 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  40m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-40 (70%) (1)     Sensitivity 40     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  40m km

ECM 20

This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes


Looks pretty good. Finally some passives.
I notice you have high fuel efficiency compared you other tech, like missile reload.
Do you intend to reuse your old command ships.

[mavikfelna]

Overall, I agree with Unlimited but I'll add this;

If you can squeeze another firecontrol on each of the ships I think you'll find it a benefit. On the main missile combatants, if you can go to resolution 16 on the actives and firecon you'll be able to deal with gunboats much better, and it's also a good reason to have 2 firecon on those ships.

--Mav

[Hawkeye]

The turrets and FC on the escort still only track at 10,000 km/s and will have a very _very_ hard time shooting down a missile moving at 40 to 50k (to-hit chance reduces by 75 to 80% on top of all other modifiers).
Generally, i use one firecon per turret, so I am able to defend against many small salvos, but one FC per two twin-turrets might be ok too.

[Aldaris (OP)]

My power and propulsion scientists are very good, and my other good scientists are all logistics or construction, so my tech focus changed accordingly, I'll set to work on some new designs.
As for the AMMs, they've got a large manouverability bonus, something I didn't bother with on my ASMs.

Also, how exactly does ECM work? Does it only affect the ship it's mounted on or the whole fleet?

[Brian Neumann]

ECM and ECCM only work for the ship that it is mounted on.

ECCM counters an equal level of ECM.  Any extra ECM is then applied against the fire control targeting the ship with the ECM.

Against beams the way ecm works is to be a flat modifier on the to hit channce.  Take the base to hit from the range and subtract the ecm modifier. (Base to hit-(ecmx10)).  At close range this is not to bad if the ecm is not to high.  At longer ranges though this can be significant.  ie at 3/4 of max fire control range you would normally have a 25% chance to hit.  With one level of ecm not countered by your eccm this would go down to 15% to hit.

Against missiles it works to reduce the fire control range that can get a missile lockon.  A level 1 ecm would reduce the targeting fire control range by 10% while a level 3 ecm would reduce the range by 30%.  It will have no effect on the missiles actual chance to hit the target, just on the range it can be fired at.

Brian