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Ground Forces Morale
« on: May 05, 2020, 11:39:14 PM »
Can anyone confirm - is a ground unit supposed to reset its morale to the base 100 if the commander retires?
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2020, 11:47:26 PM »
Yes.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 11:59:28 PM »
Disappointing, but okay.  Thanks.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2020, 07:15:53 AM »
Can anyone confirm - is a ground unit supposed to reset its morale to the base 100 if the commander retires?

No.

Lower it to 100 if you lose a good commander yes, but firing an idiot won't magically restore the damage they've done.  That requires time.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 07:20:19 AM »
...firing an idiot won't magically restore the damage they've done.  That requires time.

I mean, I've been in a sub-100 morale unit when the idiot got fired.
It does do some instantaneous wonders for morale.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 07:51:14 AM »
Well, in Aurora it takes time.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 07:52:11 AM »
Well, in Aurora it takes time.

Yes but I was making a humorous real-life aside.
 
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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2020, 12:20:29 PM »
It doesn't appear though that the unit will lose the gained morale if you manually change a commander, which makes the whole morale thing rather wonky.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2020, 01:29:36 PM »
It doesn't appear though that the unit will lose the gained morale if you manually change a commander, which makes the whole morale thing rather wonky.

Did you check back after a production cycle to confirm that?  I wouldn't want to be penalized if I swap C for B, when I meant to swap A for B.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2020, 02:03:09 PM »
I did it again just now to be sure.  Swapped two majors between two companies.  One had 142 morale, the other 101 morale.  Advanced through a production cycle and each company's morale is the same, 142, and 101.

Which is why I asked the question initially.  It may be working as intended, but it seems odd that manually switching a commander won't reset it down to 100, but retirement (didn't check it on a killed via accident) does reset it to 100.  I'm not sure which is 'right' but I don't understand why there would be two different results.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2020, 02:13:30 PM »
Further update, another retirement, and this time the morale did not reset to 100. So honestly, I have no idea what's going on.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2020, 03:43:41 PM »
Morale dropping to 100 is intended behaviour as per Steve's writing in the Changes thread. So it not happening in some other circumstances would be a bug. Unless new commander has same stats or something similarly funky going on.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2020, 06:19:57 PM »
Added it to the Bug report. Thanks.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2020, 07:15:23 AM »
I expect that morale dropping slowly to 100 is correct, but not instantly.  I would want it to take several production cycles for the good work to wear off.
 

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Re: Ground Forces Morale
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2020, 11:00:43 AM »
I agree. If there's to be some reduction in morale due to a commander change, there should be some curve to it. Though unless it's been added to ships in C#, and I haven't noticed any such change, crew training rating of vessels doesn't change when a commander changes, so I'm not sure why one should be treated differently than the other. If the unit has no commander for a cycle, morale should begin to drop (and so should a ship's training rating probably), but otherwise I don't know that it brings a lot to the table.