National Updates Comment Thread

[Mel Vixen]

Well if a government doesnt buy the minerals of a colony the material could land on the market (for a premium). Since the CMCs are not directly empire controlled you could send your freighters/ Civilian freighter there to buy some of the material - much like civilian fuelharvesters. Tradetreaties could work well for that.

Heck maybe you could "ask" a different NPR to commision a certain piece of equipment or even ship that they then sell for riches and minerals.

Say buying Russian misseldrives by the hundreds (for a reasonable 500% markup) to euip suplement your ships with faster ASM.

You would have to ballance this with the civilisations personality. More pacifist civs wouldnt sell weapons so readely while xenophobic ones dont like trading at all. Your military strength and purchase behaviour might worsen the relations to a NPR if you buy to many weapons etc.

[MarcAFK]

Keeping the system simple would probably be best, maybe a civilian trade post could be setup which simply directly purchases whatever you dump there or sells whatever you pickup. You could use freighters or mass drivers.
Minerals which you allow a cmc to sell off go to a civilian stockpile where civilian freighters will use the existing trade system to send to your homeworld. There they go into a civilian trade market which can buy or sell resources at a certain quantity depending on level of commercial spaceport. Say 250 tons per year per level of spaceport. Modified by logistics rating of governor. Allow the civilians to upgrade the spaceport themself too, but at a significant expense. Then finally create a system where civ freighters will trade minerals that are most abundant in stockpile  to other empires, and alternatively purchase those that are in lower quantities. It should try to trade everything though but weighted by supply and demand. You should get income from the trade too obviously.

[hubgbf]

Hi,

Establishing such trade mecanism will allow to introduce pirates, or privateer.

Escorting commercial shipping is a major motivation to build a big navy.
It will also introduce some small sized actions, instead of just sparse and big sized one. Pirates and privateers will also rely more on speed than fighting power, leading to more player specialized design.

Bye

[Jakalo]

I wonder, with that disaster option in place what's stopping Earth nations from deploying terraformers back on Earth to combat temperature change.

In any case nice to see Cauntauri Federation taking steps to improve their military, with Caliphate getting cold feet they might even have a chance.

[swarm_sadist]

Is there a reason you put the Germany Update in the Starting Forces Thread?

[Steve Walmsley (OP)]

Is there a reason you put the Germany Update in the Starting Forces Thread?

LOL, because I'm an idiot?

Fixed now.

[Bremen]

Looks like things are about to heat up The Japanese seem to be on top of things, concluding that the Centauri are probably the target but taking no chances anyways. I wonder how the other nations will react to the attack; while Japan has no reason to like the Centauri they might like the idea of an aggressive Brazil neighboring them even less, or just want their own piece of the pie. Mars can't do much despite having something of an alliance with the Centauri, and the other nations following the assault force don't have much reason to care.

Brazil seems to have missed their best opportunity, when the Federation was weak due to military expansion, but probably still have a good advantage. The Centauri have 7 missile cruisers at last count, and seem unlikely to finish the two just laid down before the attack comes. Even assuming they can reload from planetary stocks, they'll probably have great difficulty penetrating the Brazilian Navy's beam based point defense; by my math, 70 24km/s missiles versus 150 gauss cannon shots with a tracking speed of 16 km/s, not to mention all the railgun fire. Unless they can stop them at the jump point or Brazil makes a major tactical blunder, I don't see it going well for them.

[Garfunkel]

Like the Sun, things are heating up!

[mrwigggles]

None of the nations reports have acknowledged that the sun  is heating up.

[Garfunkel]

Yes they have.

Japanese update:

The Centauri continue to send survey ships into areas that Japan regards as within its sphere of influence, their home system lies astride the primary route from Sol to Edo and the Federation home worlds would provide both resources and Japanese colony locations close to Sol. The latter benefit has assumed much greater importance since the problems with Sol became apparent in May 2107.

Australian update:

There were no suitable sites for manned mines within the Avalon Arm so the Australian prime minister contacted his British counterpart and requested that the restriction on moving Australia manned mines to Avalon be lifted. He emphasised that the matter had become more urgent due to the growing problems with Sol. It was likely that in the long-term Australia's main population centre would not be on Earth.

Argentinian update:

The current strategy continues though with Argentina concentrating on establishing small colonies far from the other powers. This may not be viable in the long-term given the increased solar output affecting Earth and Argentina may have to find a colony location closer to Sol if evacuation becomes necessary.

[dgibso29]

Checking all too often for the next updates. Very interested to see how events unfold.

[boggo2300]

Badly for Manchuria almost certainly,  especially since they aren't directly involved

[Sematary]

I think we are about to see the titular wars begin. I think the main event will be US/Germany vs. the Caliphate, with pretty much everything riding on the first series of battles. Around a planet is where the Caliphate has the greatest disadvantage because the ranges involved will probably be short enough to counter the sensor mismatch the US ships have. Also if one or more carriers can be disabled or destroyed in the opening salvo so they are unable to launch their FACs that will deny the Caliphate most of their advantage. Assuming 4 of the 6 FACs in a standard Mersin class are Ashdod class FACs, taking out even a single Mersin denies 64 missiles that would either have been a massive alpha strike or a series of strikes. Going over the various speeds comparing the Caliphate and the US its going to be a slaughter. The US ships are almost as fast as the FACs of the Caliphate, and the US will have ~40% to hit chance on the FACs and a ~73% to hit chance on the carriers for their missiles. On the other hand the carriers can not hope to out run the US ships who are around 4 times faster than them and the Caliphate missiles will have a ~37% chance of hitting the US ships who can go faster than the mason cannons can track them at. It pretty much comes down to if the US can see the Caliphate's ships and shoot at them then the Caliphate has little chance against the US.

[TheRequimen]

Nice to see the big OOB, going to go over my excel document.   I have been keeping track of every nations navy and population in Excel.  (except for civilian ships)

[Val]

I think it would be a great idea to put this scenario right before the war starts on the scenarios sub forum so we can play it too