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Title: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on April 08, 2016, 01:05:12 PM
This thread is intended to offer a forum for all members of all nations to argue and shout at each others.

I would like to congratulate all nations on the new discovery of trans-newtonions minerals and the possibility they offer for the benefit of all mankind. I hope we all follow the lead of our predecessors that signed the Outer Space Treaty and make space a place of peace, not a battlefield.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on April 08, 2016, 01:25:05 PM
(http://theriskyshift.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/united-nations-geneva-building.jpg)

UN council, Geneva.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vandermeer on April 08, 2016, 01:28:15 PM
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Removed comment to rise to proper seriousness now.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on April 09, 2016, 10:30:55 AM
Nikki De Boer, Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia) spoke today.

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Mr. President, honored delegates, ladies and gentlemen:

We meet in an hour of change and challenge. The old world is dead. The new world rises from the ashes like the proverbial phoenix, wings golden with hope.   Trans-Newtonian technologies are opening space exploration to new vistas.  But they also provide new chances for industry, solving the energy crisis in one fell swoop, and can uplift the lives of our citizens.   It is important to remember that it is our duty as the leaders of our nations to use this to improve the lives of all our citizens. 

The UN must grow to meet the challenges of our age, or it will be gone with the wind, without influence, without force, without respect. Were we to let it die, to enfeeble its vigor, to cripple its powers, we would condemn our future.   Let me quote some famous words spoken to the UN over 100 years ago.

"For in the development of this organization rests the only true alternative to war--and war appeals no longer as a rational alternative. Unconditional war can no longer lead to unconditional victory. It can no longer serve to settle disputes. It can no longer concern the great powers alone. For a nuclear disaster, spread by wind and water and fear, could well engulf the great and the small, the rich and the poor, the committed and the uncommitted alike. Mankind must put an end to war--or war will put an end to mankind. "

Later he spoke of "But the mysteries of outer space must not divert our eyes or our energies from the harsh realities that face our fellow men. Political sovereignty is but a mockery without the means of meeting poverty and illiteracy and disease. Self-determination is but a slogan if the future holds no hope." 

 Those word still ring true.  As you know, one of the Free State Alliance slogans is "together we are strong".   When individuals, peoples, and nations subsume themselves for the greater state, they grow stronger as the state grows stronger.   I invite all nations to not look east or west, but to look south to see the leadership that will uplift all people to a better life.   He or she who hesitates is lost.   Be it the UN, peace, or natural leaders of the peoples of the world.  I say there is still hope, even to us who stand with a book in one hand and a rifle in the other.   Look up to the stars, but make the world a better place.   The people, and thus the state demands it.

I will close with another quote:

"Ladies and gentlemen of this Assembly, the decision is ours. Never have the nations of the world had so much to lose, or so much to gain. Together we shall save our planet, or together we shall perish in its flames. Save it we can--and save it we must--and then shall we earn the eternal thanks of mankind and, as peacemakers, the eternal blessing of God. "

God bless and may god save the state.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vandermeer on April 17, 2016, 01:33:09 PM
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Captain 2nd Rank, Nadia Aksyonova, officially one of those officers assigned to help the Russian Confederation form a new TN-aware branch in its force's organization, is now out of official schedule in Geneva, trying to personally meet Jonathan von Sheb late. He had recently signed a formal letter of NAU, inquiring about the possibility of objective related development collaboration in the matters of trying to implement TN materials into viable propulsion technology for the first time.
A letter that has since not been answered.

Finding him in a teahouse close, but not quite on official UN soil, she sits down with him to discuss the matter.
"I would apologize for the lateness of current official response, but I fear I am not authorized to voice such sentiments in name of the Confederation by myself. You can however take my apology on personal level if that is of any remedy.
As you may know, there is currently a bit of a disarray caused by running new elections at the same time as having all these other changes turning over society and organizations. I am sure the new administration has already gotten their plans around when to approach you formally, but in the meantime, let me just say that these plans are not in any way final, and that some groups in our rows mainly stagger towards this collaboration, since so few details can be known without ever having inquired about it.
...Now, if that were to change, and exclusive information would reach these groups before the current administration releases first details about the offer to us, it may just change what everybody thinks of it beforehand, and sway the decision towards a bilateral beneficial outcome."
Nadia takes a small spoon to steer some Candis through her tea, looking down why formulating in pressed English:
"Now, before I can even speak about what I see the Confederation could arrange to offer to you, I would need to know the answer to one question in advance: When NAU spoke about 'developing TN propulsion that would open the way to the stars', did they have a nuclear based engine in mind?"... she asks while her view wanders up again to assessingly fixate the eyes of Von Sheb, raising the brows to articulate pivotal matter of the question.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on April 18, 2016, 09:35:34 AM
"Good Morning Captain.

Those are indeed confusing time. We ourselves are just now getting a proper foreign policy establishment. I took the liberty of inviting Congressman Point-Rouge to our meeting, as he seems likely to be the future NAU Ambassador to Russia. You have to understand that my letters were sent in a semi-private capacity, although the proposal they contained represented has broad support within Congress.

We would indeed like to cooperate in scientific terms with Russia. I'm not a technical person, so I don't know exactly what kind of rocket the JPL has in mind though. I could enquire if you wish so."
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Red Dot on April 18, 2016, 10:52:48 AM
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“It is great to make your acquaintance Captain Aksyonova. I am sure this is the start of a mutually beneficial relationship between our two great supranational organisations. As my colleague von Sheb so ably put, the NAU Congress may nominate me in the near future as Ambassador to Russia.  I would hope that you will be able to confirm who would be the definite spokesperson from Russia.”

Congressman Point-Rouge takes a sip from his espresso macchiato and looks at Captain Aksyonova:

“If you don’t mind, I am able to give you part of the answer to your question to von Sheb.  What the NAU wishes to put on the table is a TN-version of Project Orion. If you did not know, Project Orion was a American study back in the 1950s…yes, the 1950s … about a nuclear pulse propulsion system. Mundane issues like nuclear fallout on lift-off and the Partial Test Ban Treaty killed Orion back then but our scientists believe that with the detailed plans still in our possession and the application of TN discoveries, we could develop a new version in about 24 months.”

While speaking, Point-Rouge keeps a close look at Aksyonova trying to assess her reactions.  When he sees little to no impact to this revelation, he goes on further:

“I do not know if you are the right person to begin these negotiations, Captain Aksyonova, but basically what the NAU wants to put on the table is the Nuclear Pulse Engine technology in about 24 months.  We would expect an equivalent technological exchange from Russia based on your areas of capabilities over the same timeframe.  I know you cannot give me an answer at this stage but I sincerely hope that this is the beginning of a great collaboration as we start exploring our solar system.”

Rising with von Sheb, Point-Rouge adds: “Da svidania, Captain. Stay in touch.” (Goodbye!)
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vandermeer on April 18, 2016, 12:53:23 PM
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Nadia shook her head as Von Sheb and alias Point-Rouge turned their backs to leave. The meeting did not play out in the way she had mildly anticipated, and her mind was racing with the implications that this short talk had brought to contemplate. Though she had hoped for an actual exchange of information, it was still very insightful about the character and workings of NAU itself, which constitutes valuable information at least flowing in her direction.
She smirked after the first conclusions of this talk had finished processing. "This is going to be easy."
Suddenly in a cheerful mood, she got up, paid at the bar, and jested a bit with the waiter, pretending only to hold foreign currency. Then she took her leave, looking forward to the meeting with the three military chiefs. There were some things to report that would probably put at least Kuzmin and Ochinnikov into an equally vital mood.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on April 27, 2016, 08:30:33 AM
It is my honour and pleasure to announce to this august assembly that appointments to our ambassadorships have been made.

Congress elected myself as Ambassador to the Free State Alliance and Ambassador-at-large to the non-aligned countries. Congressman KKS was elected as ambassador to the Russian Federation. We urge the Russian federation to appoint a representative to facilitate diplomacy between our nations.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on April 27, 2016, 01:13:48 PM
It is my honour and pleasure to announce to this august assembly that appointments to our ambassadorships have been made.

Congress elected myself as Ambassador to the Free State Alliance and Ambassador-at-large to the non-aligned countries. Congressman KKS was elected as ambassador to the Russian Federation. We urge the Russian federation to appoint a representative to facilitate diplomacy between our nations.

Nikki De Boer,  Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)

The FSA welcomes Congressman Sheb to the role.  The Free State Alliance and its member units look forward to work with the NAU to uplift all of humanity. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on May 11, 2016, 11:17:58 AM
Nikki De Boer,  Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)

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Fellow Nations.  I have been tasked with one of the greatest announcements in human history.

As many are aware, the FSA established a permanent base on Mars.   Soon after landing the team discovered odd, minor gravitational anomalies.   At first it was thought this was the new Trans-Newtonian technologies interfering with standard sensors.   However, Elysium Base was tasked with researching these anomalies.   The reasons for these issues was solved, and this is what I have been tasked with discussing.

We are not alone.  The FSA base has discovered Alien Ruins on mars.   I cannot go into more detail, but we can confirm the ruins are not human, and that our system was visited by aliens in the past.   This came to a deep shock to us.  The size and scope of these ruins are still to be fully determined, and our Elysium Base crew is currently marking off and protecting the site. The FSA is not making any claims on the ruins at this time. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on May 11, 2016, 12:14:23 PM
The FSA wishes to propose a treaty for discussion.   The FSA has deep concerns about the Outer Space Treaty as written.   And proposes changes to the treaty to correct the problems.  If some of these issues are not met, the FSA may be forced to leave the treaty.

The following is a summary of the proposals the FSA wishes to discuss.

The New Outer Space Treaty (NOST) Proposal for discussion.   These are FSA concepts, but not demands.

- The concept of no claiming any objects in space in the new Trans-Newtonian world is obsolete.
- That objects (defined as comets,  asteroids, and Kuiper belt objects (KBOs))  should have a well understood means of claiming for use.
- That Mars, being the planet most suitable for human settlement should be treated as a special case.
- That Luna, being the moon of Earth, shall be treated as a special case.
- That there are 4 major planetary systems.   (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune) that have extensive moon systems.  That each of the major powers should be able to claim one of these as their own domain.  The remaining Planet-moon system would be open to claims by any nation.
- That all ships and probe launches are to be registered with the UN.   This registration would be a very general.  (Such as VSS Fajr: Exploration, or USS Cape Lookout:  Logistics, or HMS Assult: Military)  This registration follows the UN registration of launches that currently exists.  (OOC: Also lets people following the game but cannot see the private forums a idea of what is being built.  And gives a chance to name civilian ships)


As for some proposals for actual mechanics

- Object claims:  Upon placing some permanent full time equipment (Such as a civilian mining base or a automine) on the object, and a public announcement of such to the UN, the object will be viewed as claimed.   each object claim gets a 20 million KM exclusion area.

- That Mars and Luna should fall under a treaty like the Svalbard Treaty.  Commercial and scientific exploration will be allowed by all parties of the treaty, and settlement can occur.  However, no military bases are allowed on Mars (No PDCs) and military ships are only allowed to orbit and land to drop off personnel.   Phobos and Deimos can be used for observation to make sure that the treaty is being followed on mars.  The only troops allowed are garrison troops to keep public order in the settlements and construction battalions.

- That each Power selects a Major Planet moon system, and gains a claim with a large exclusion area (100 million KM?) around that planet.  The 4th system is open to all.

- exclusion area is a area around a object that no state owned craft may enter.    However it is understood that if a orbit takes it into a area that accidents can happen, and that private craft can ignore this.  (I cannot control the private companies craft).   Thus if Eros is claimed, and Earth swings by, you don't get to claim that everything around earth is violating its space (And comets effectively have zero claims)

- Mercury and Venus need to be discussed.   
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: kks on May 11, 2016, 05:26:51 PM
A open message to the Russian Confederation:
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Dear people of Russia,

we, the congress of the North American Union, would like to invite a delegation of the Russian Confederation to a visit to one of our former ICBM launch sites. The new age the trans newtonian elements has brought us will hopefully soon obsolete these old weapons of mass destruction. For one and a half centuries the nuclear bombs were the greatest danger for mankind. However the trans-newtonian physics will soon eliminate the rules preventing their use which is why we pledge to you to begin to disarm your nuclear arsenal. A new race of arms must not happen. We have decided to take the first step and converted one ICBM launch site to suit a new type of rockets.
So a new, trans-newtonian rocket system which can be launched by these sites, the Hathor Mk I, was developed. It is however by no means a new, trans-newtonian version of the old weapons of mass destruction, but instead a vehicle to be used for science. A tool not for destruction, but a tool to ensure the prosperity of mankind. These missile carry a small sensor probe we can launch to nearby planets, moons and asteroids and conduct a throughout geological survey of the planet. We will launch a few of these probes to our nearest neighbours the coming months and will allow a delegation of your goverment to be present at these launches to convince themself we have no ill will.

With best wishes to Russia,
Carlos Smith, congressman of the NAU
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on May 12, 2016, 08:04:14 PM
Congrats to the NAU for doing a plowshare program with the ICBMs.   The FSA is so impressed that we may invest in a similar program.   


In addition, for clarity, the FSA proposal has been broken into three Treaties.

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The Mars-Luna Treaty.

Mars and Luna - being essential colonization targets for all of mankind, shall be treated as follows.

- That all members of the Mars-Luna treaty will be allowed access to the bodies.  This includes settlement, commercial, and scientific access.
- That each nation laws shall prevail in its own colonies.
- No military bases shall be established on Luna or Mars.
- No military troops shall be placed on Luna or Mars except for Garrison troops to maintain the peace and construction battalions to exploit ruins and build infrastructure.
- No military ships (both landing and orbit) shall land on Luna or Mars with the exception of transferring personnel.   Military ships and bases will be allowed on Phobos and Deimos to allow national means of verification that treaty terms are being met.  For Luna, Earth orbit will allow the same.

If all powers agree to this treaty, the FSA will give up all claims of rights to exclude access to the ruins adjacent to the current FSA colony.


Following the footsteps of the UN treaty to register satellites,

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UN registration Treaty

-That clarity on what is being launched is essential to maintain the peace
-That national means of detection means that launches can be detected by other nations.
-That A UN registry of ships and probes shall be established.   The Registry shall list a Name/Hull number, and a general use (Such as but not limited to commercial, logistic, military, observation, cargo, liner).  In addition, the registrar of the vessel can add additional information if they see fit.   

The FSA officially signs this treaty.  It is still pending ratification, however the FSA will submit it ships and probes to the UN pending ratification.

(OOC:  This is to also help people following see what is launched who are not part of the game.)

Finally

The New Outer Space Treaty (NOST)

The FSA wishes to propose a mechanism that objects in space can be claimed for exclusive use. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on May 13, 2016, 03:05:03 AM
The NAU would like any new version of the Outer Space Treaty to retain the ban on deploying weapons of mass destruction in space. We also dispute the need of the Mars-Luna treaty at the moment, as the current Outer Space Treaty already guarantee their neutrality. We could consider a exemption for Mars and Luna in a new version of the OST.

As for the Registration Treaty, I personnally support it, and have submitted it to Congress for approval.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Panopticon on May 13, 2016, 03:21:14 AM
Mass depression? So that episode of Futurama with the dog is banned in space?
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on May 13, 2016, 11:12:00 AM
The NAU would like any new version of the Outer Space Treaty to retain the ban on deploying weapons of mass destruction in space. We also dispute the need of the Mars-Luna treaty at the moment, as the current Outer Space Treaty already guarantee their neutrality. We could consider a exemption for Mars and Luna in a new version of the OST.

As for the Registration Treaty, I personnally support it, and have submitted it to Congress for approval.

Nikki De Boer, Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)

Senator Sheb,

We agree that the Mars-Luna treaty is not fully ripe, however the FSA wanted to make sure it clear to all citizens that we view Mars and Luna as the common heritage of mankind.    We do feel that the Outer Space treaty does need to be reviewed, as it currently written is untenable, and we would much rather negotiate in good faith for a update to the treaty then be forced to withdraw from it. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on May 13, 2016, 11:35:40 AM
We are of one mind then. I'm pleased to report that Congress seems enthusiast about the UN Registration Treaty. We probablt will be in position to officially ratify it by tomorrow.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on May 14, 2016, 05:29:43 AM
And the vote passed. The NAU officially ratify the US registration treaty. As per the treaty, I can report that 12 Hathor MkI Geological Probes are planned to be built and launched as they come off the production line.

If any party would be interested in buying geological survey data or probes of their own, I recommend they contact their respective ambassadors.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on May 14, 2016, 09:01:24 AM
And the vote passed. The NAU officially ratify the US registration treaty. As per the treaty, I can report that 12 Hathor MkI Geological Probes are planned to be built and launched as they come off the production line.

If any party would be interested in buying geological survey data or probes of their own, I recommend they contact their respective ambassadors.

Admin hat: Just as a note, I as admin will auto-add the Hathor Mk 1s to the UN registry if the NAU wishes.  I might make the Registry a Sticky. 
Also, with two powers signed up, its now a offical treaty, and I will add it to the list of treaties.   Russia still can sign it or refuse to sign it.

FSA hat: 

The FSA is happy to hear that the NAU has signed and ratified the treaty.

The FSA senate ratified the treaty to a 22-1 vote. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Red Dot on May 14, 2016, 09:57:52 AM
Admin hat: Just as a note, I as admin will auto-add the Hathor Mk 1s to the UN registry if the NAU wishes. 

That is fine by us.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vasious on May 15, 2016, 07:10:03 AM
Helga Gavrilov of the Russian Confederation

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Ladies and Gentlemen of the United Nations Assembly, we are please to announce that the Russian Confederation with be a signatory of the UN Registry Treaty.
On the Matter of the Outer Space Treaty, the Russian Confederation feel that the Treaty need no be updated, revised or abrogated.
The Celestial bodies of the Sol System are the collective inheritance of all of the children of mother earth, and none shall lay claim to any of them.
Peaceful colonies on Mars and Luna are in now way prevented by the current wording of the Outer Space Treaty, nor would the employment of police forces on those colonies, for the public order and good, be against the spirit of the Outer Space Treaty.

That the TWO Alliances that possess Trans-Newtonian Interplanetary vessels are seeking to rewrite the treaty to allow them to lay claim to Entire planetary bodies for their own exploitation should remaining ONE HUNDRED AND NINTY SOME nations on Earth simply are excluded from this next chapter of Humanity?

The Russian Confederation hopes the Member states of the United Nations follow the Confederation's lead by voting against any changes to the Outer Space Treaty. We do not need Weapons of Mass Destruction in Space, we do not need another Gold Rush to make the rich richer and the poor planet locked to a single world.

As the Right honourable Nikki De Boer said to this very Assembly, only TOGETHER shall save our planet, dividing the Solar system among a few at the expense of the many, is not, I say again, NOT, the way we Save humanity as a whole
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vandermeer on May 21, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
A open message to the Russian Confederation:
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Dear people of Russia,

we, the congress of the North American Union, would like to invite a delegation of the Russian Confederation to a visit to one of our former ICBM launch sites. The new age the trans newtonian elements has brought us will hopefully soon obsolete these old weapons of mass destruction. For one and a half centuries the nuclear bombs were the greatest danger for mankind. However the trans-newtonian physics will soon eliminate the rules preventing their use which is why we pledge to you to begin to disarm your nuclear arsenal. A new race of arms must not happen. We have decided to take the first step and converted one ICBM launch site to suit a new type of rockets.
So a new, trans-newtonian rocket system which can be launched by these sites, the Hathor Mk I, was developed. It is however by no means a new, trans-newtonian version of the old weapons of mass destruction, but instead a vehicle to be used for science. A tool not for destruction, but a tool to ensure the prosperity of mankind. These missile carry a small sensor probe we can launch to nearby planets, moons and asteroids and conduct a throughout geological survey of the planet. We will launch a few of these probes to our nearest neighbours the coming months and will allow a delegation of your goverment to be present at these launches to convince themself we have no ill will.

With best wishes to Russia,
Carlos Smith, congressman of the NAU

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Following the standing invitation of congressman Carlos Smith, the 3 chosen delegates of Russia were finally on their way to attend a tour through the repurposed ICBM launch silo. The commissioned trio consisted of the army Colonel Karen Timiryazev (f), navy Captain 2nd Rank, Nadia Aksyonova (f), and an actor of the central committee and current interim ambassador to the North American Union, Katria Zinoview (f).
After going through various demonstrations of the silo’s new functions, the launch protocols and demonstrably demilitarized redesigned work hierarchy, it was finally time to have a seat in the facilities’ meeting room. Despite the obvious political intentioned demonstration of good intention and maybe prosperity oriented development, there was some rather large incident overshadowing what could have been a first step to international collaboration gathering:
A Union sent team of agents had been trying to perforate the Confederation’s perimeter, and was killed when they tried to resist a police arrest attempt. Since happenings like this usually register as an offensive act, and become a major seed of political mistrust, tension deflecting talks were dearly necessary, but had been delayed for long enough so that only the cremated remains could now be given back to NAU to be buried in their homeland.

After having the facilities’ cantina serve quality dishes for the first time of its operation date, Katria Zinoview, sitting between the army and navy representatives, opens to the collected NAU envoys:
“So shall we start then? Don’t worry, as previously promised by Captain Aksyonova here, we have not come to exert pressuring inquiry. After some months of digestion of the incident, I think we might actually have grown a fairly forgiving understanding towards why you chose to network a team of operatives into our midst. We recognize that our external face has been quite lacking throughout the whole year, though not intentionally I want to assure. Of course having a new government, - on top of that one of such reach as ours-, turn inwards for such an elongated period of time just after reforming itself completely, naturally would raise alarms at any other nation which gets influenced by its dealings. We have been suspecting that the collection of information onto our internal dealings might have been the primary goal of your agents.
…Unfortunately there was absolutely no opportunity to verify this before, as the personnel you sent chose to rather fight to their death (and to that of some of our policemen), which had so far been the main source of mistrust on our side. We have problems understanding as to why you would order your operatives to react so violently if all they wanted to achieve was reporting on stability and potential danger analysis.
So this would be the first point we would like you to take up position to us.”

Zinoview exchanges looks left and right with her two companions. “On different note, we would like you detail or confirm your position on the current Outer Space Treaty. Despite our hesitance to take up direct contact in the past months, we do have been listening to announcements, and specifically the those of the White House Press Office.”
A nervous smirk flashes over Zinoview’s face before she continues: “We have people worried that you might not take the demilitarization of space to the letter, as you have voiced conflicting proclamations in that regard. The colonel here…”, - she makes a hand gesture towards Karen Timiryazev -, “…might be especially interested in a statement towards why you had chosen to word literally ‘…develop the right amount of Earth-based and space-based armed forces…’.
As you might relate, we all shared a collective raised eyebrow day when this proclamation reached us.”
Nadia puts a hand on Zinoview’s shoulder. “Uhm, yes, right, forgive the joking. So since you have made statements to the UN too, which spoke of you honoring the Outer Space Treaty, we three would just like to hear statements of you in this regard too.”

Katria leans back and throws a quizzical look towards Captain Aksyonova, who nods but holds one hand up to signal patience. Assumingly there was another, third point that was still delayed to give the envoys time to answer to the previous questions.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Red Dot on May 21, 2016, 08:26:47 PM
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Diary of LT-Col Faerly Rowbust - NAU Air Force representative at the Hathor Launch and tasked with accompanying the Russian delegation

"...Why?, oh why did I apply apply to be a Russian Foreign Area Officer?  I have no idea how high these three are in the Russian food chain. They are probably just like me; peons left out to dry..."

After Zinoview talks about the operatives:"Ha! I guess we lost a CIA team inside Russia and they are mighty pissed off about it.  Good, kudos to that wimp Point-Rouge. At least, he is trying to get intel on those opaque SOBs" thinks Rowbust.

"Sorry Ladies, but I don't have a clue what you are talking about!  I am but a lowly Air Force Officer tasked with showing you around while we go about this marvelous task the NAU Congress has authorised. Is this issue being brought up through Ambassador kks? I am sure the government wil get to it in time." is what Rowbust officially declared.

"On the OST, I can but reiterate the "official" perspective that, even with the abundance of TN elements on Earth, eventually mankind must leave its birthplace and the best way to do this is through capitalism. Just look at what Elon Musk and those early 21st Century entrepreneurs did for the space program and you will realise that we are only being pragmatic. As you well know, capitalism means ownership and that basically means that the OST was a UN 'pipe dream' back in the 20th Century just like it is in the 22nd Century."

"Forgive my abruptness, but you appeared to have a third point?

Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on May 22, 2016, 03:37:12 AM
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"..As you well know, capitalism means ownership and that basically means that the OST was a UN 'pipe dream' back in the 20th Century just like it is in the 22nd Century."

Karen Timiryazev replies to this:
"Your ideas on capitalism and the assumption that the rest of the world will accept the american viewpoint on this are.. fascinating. The propaganda machinery of your state is most impressive."
The last part is said with admiration in her voice.


"Forgive my abruptness, but you appeared to have a third point?"

"We will get to that in time" answers Karen.
"As you said yourself Lieutenant Colonel we are only doing the tour at the moment, but we do of course expect to meet with some government representatives as well while visiting. I am sure your government is not planning to just show us a demonstration and send us on our way again without any possibility for questions and discussion. That could probably even be seen as a bit rude under the circumstances so surely not what is intended. But I did not get any information if the ambassador is in town for the occasion or if there is someone else who will be meeting us as representative for your congress."
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Red Dot on May 22, 2016, 05:09:27 AM
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Diary of LTC Faerly Rowbust - NAU Air Force representative at the Hathor Launch and tasked with accompanying the Russian delegation

Reflecting on the Russian request for a high-level meeting: "I better call Washington. I had heard that this meeting was going to be held at the UN. I think somebody may have to take the Hyperloop to South Dakota in the next few hours..."

"Sorry Ladies, but this deep in South Dakota is not a popular tourism destination for Congressmen, but let me call Washington and see if anything can be arranged" is what Rowbust actually said to the Russian delegation.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Red Dot on May 23, 2016, 08:20:08 AM
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Diary of LTC Faerly Rowbust - NAU Air Force representative at the Hathor Launch and tasked with accompanying the Russian delegation
"Well ladies, I have heard back from Washington and they will sending a representative later today.  I understand that it will be the Third Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs - Dr Sebastian Pinscher-Doberman. I have requested a secure conference room from the Base Commander."
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on May 23, 2016, 10:20:31 AM
Meanwhile in Geneva

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Nikki De Boer looked at her data-pad.  Being the semi-offical spokesperson for the FSA was hard, as the FSA was a trans-national organization.  She reread it again and then typed out letter to her cohorts in the NAU and FSA.

"Dear Sirs or madams

The FSA welcomes any discussion in details about our treaty proposals with the Outer Space Treaty (OST)

The FSA views on the treaty are hereby noted.

- We fully agree that Weapons of mass destruction (WMD) are banned space
- We state that there is no prohibition on placing non-WMD in space
- the treaty expressly prohibits their use for testing weapons of any kind, conducting military maneuvers, or establishing military bases, installations, and fortifications.
- The treaty prohibits claiming of property in space outside of the actual bases and ships in space.


The FSA treaty concerns are the following

- The FSA is laying the groundwork to establish colonies in space, a new "Great Trek" if you will.  a military base and a large police station are not dissimilar, and it is unreasonable to ask a colony of millions of persons not to have a police force.
-We are not alone, the ruins on mars proves this, so it is our duty as protectors of our citizens to build up a defensive force able to defend earth and it colonies.  We need to do this in a peaceful manner among humans as these weapons are for defending us from external aggression.
- That not allowing exclusive economic zones in space will mean that there will be tension and threats in space - which is counterproductive for peace.

The FSA wishes to discuss this matter, outright rejection of discussions will leave the FSA no choice but to leave the treaty, and we remind all that not all member states of the FSA have ratified the treaty (Iran), some have not signed the treaty (Rhodesia-Zimbabwe, SWA-Namibia) and all treaty members have the right to leave the treaty with a year's notice.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Red Dot on May 23, 2016, 08:19:57 PM
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Diary of LTC Faerly Rowbust - NAU Air Force representative at the Hathor Launch and tasked with accompanying the Russian delegation

" OK, Now what did I do?  I didn't think I screwed up this assignment this much that Washington now feels they need to backstop me this much...."

"Colonel Timiryazev, Captain Aksyonova and Mrs. Zinoview. I have had a call from Washington and it appears Ambassador kks will be available to meet with you after all.  Seems my initial message to the Pentagon wasn't sent to the Ambassador and he is quite unhappy that we asked Dr Pinscher-Doberman to attend in his stead.  Please be ready to meet with him when he makes his way to South Dakota."
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vasious on May 23, 2016, 08:33:07 PM
Helga Gavrilov of the Russian Confederation

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In response to the very honourable Nikki De Boer

The Russian Confederation does not consider the deployment of Para-Military Police for the good of the Public order on off world colonies to be a counter to neither the wording nor intent of the Current Outer Space treaty.

I am as convinced that the ruins on Mars are justification of the weaponization of Space, as I am convinced the ruins of Troy found in Turkey are justification for the ICBMs we all possess here and now.

If Space exploration is for the benefit of all Humankind, what is the need for Exclusive Economic Zones, no one nation or alliance block on Earth is capable of exploiting the full resources of an exo-planet alone.

One can lay claim to the resources extracted from extra-terrain bodies, by right of the work required to extract them, but none can lay claim to the body itself for their sole exploitation.

If the Russian confederation was to mine Europa, what concern is it of ours, if the NAU or the FSA decide to do the same, or one of the Non Aligned nations do the same, is Europa not big enough for us all?

The Russian confederation invites the non aligned nations to express their feelings on the Power blocks dividing up the solar system, to ensure that the mineral rich ones stay in the hands of a few.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vandermeer on May 24, 2016, 04:28:51 AM
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"Colonel Timiryazev, Captain Aksyonova and Mrs. Zinoview. I have had a call from Washington and it appears Ambassador kks will be available to meet with you after all.  Seems my initial message to the Pentagon wasn't sent to the Ambassador and he is quite unhappy that we asked Dr Pinscher-Doberman to attend in his stead.  Please be ready to meet with him when he makes his way to South Dakota."
After the somewhat bumpy first round, the three seem now satisfied, as Zinoview nods after quick looks to her left and right, and stands up with her companions to make another little extra tour down through the engineering section of the facility. Zinoview leaves no shortage in hypothetical questions to the personnel, as she likes to hear what the staff thinks of the potential of this mission, both in scientific results, and those of human or collaborative achievement.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on May 25, 2016, 10:14:58 AM
Given the apparent divergence on the OST between the Russian Confederation and the Free State Alliance, I'd like to express my concern. Whatever your opinion on the current OST, a situation where some states exit it unilaterally is worse for all. For starter, the ban on nuclear weapons enshrined in the OST would not survive the arm race that would follow an unilateral exit, despite the fact that no state oppose it. Then, a nation trying to settle under its OST right a body claimed by a nation outside the OST would be a cause for conflict.

As such, I urge the following: First, let all nation sign a separate "Convention on Spaceborn Nuclear Weapon" banning the deployment of nuclear weapons more than 20km from Earth's surface. Then, I urge the FSA and RC to find a negotiated compromise on the ownership of bodies.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on May 25, 2016, 03:01:51 PM
Given the apparent divergence on the OST between the Russian Confederation and the Free State Alliance, I'd like to express my concern. Whatever your opinion on the current OST, a situation where some states exit it unilaterally is worse for all. For starter, the ban on nuclear weapons enshrined in the OST would not survive the arm race that would follow an unilateral exit, despite the fact that no state oppose it. Then, a nation trying to settle under its OST right a body claimed by a nation outside the OST would be a cause for conflict.

As such, I urge the following: First, let all nation sign a separate "Convention on Spaceborn Nuclear Weapon" banning the deployment of nuclear weapons more than 20km from Earth's surface. Then, I urge the FSA and RC to find a negotiated compromise on the ownership of bodies.

The FSA is not rushing to leave the OST.   That said, we think it unwise to agree to a "Convention on spaceborn nuclear weapons" at this time for the following reasons.

- the FSA has signed the OST, and it would not be ripe until the time, if it happens, that he FSA decides to leave the OST.
- We feel that without movement on the topics as it a whole need to be discussed.
- the FSA does not want to see nuclear weapon in space, and we have no intention to do so as we are bound by the OST at this time.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vasious on May 25, 2016, 06:44:26 PM
Helga Gavrilov of the Russian Confederation

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It was my understanding the right honourable delegate of the Free States Alliance stated that the Free  States Alliance would consider withdrawing from the Outer space Treaty if there was no room for debate and discussion.

Is this Assembly not the forum for that debate and discussion?
Has the Russian Confederation and the Free State Alliance already reached an agreement on the deployment of Policing and security forces to off world colonies?

Do our dear friends in the North American Union think so little of the Russian Confederation and the Free States Alliance, that they feel the need to ask us both to sign a piece of paper saying we will not summon the spectre of Nuclear Annihilation if either of our nations do not get their way?

Ignoring the Moral Obligation not to do so, we are a nation of Laws, as is the Free State Alliance, and as such already legally bound by the very Outer Space Treaty we discuss.

Of course there will be disagreement, but how can anyone find the middle ground if the various positions are not stated and the reason for them asserted.

This is the Assembly of the United Nations of Earth, this is where everyone has a voice and it is their moral right and obligation to use that voice.

The Russian Confederation will have its voice heard.
The Free States Alliance will have its voice heard.
the Union of North America will have its voice heard.
The Non Aligned Nations will have their voices heard.

Only then can the assembly rule on the matter, with all facts and positions know.

The Russian Confederation will abide by the lawful rulings of this Assembly
The Russian Confederation need not sign a "Convention on spaceborn nuclear weapons" when it  is already willingly bound by one.
The Russian Confederation also has faith that as a Lawful and civilised State, if the Free State Alliance was to withdraw from the Outer Space Treaty, they would not resort to nuclear weapons to settle territorial disputes, when this forum already exists to resolve those potential matters peaceably.

Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: kks on May 26, 2016, 05:44:11 PM
The russian delegation is currently being shown the facilities where the Hathors are prepared for launch when ambassador Smith arrived at the former ICBM silo. He greeted them and then participated in the rest of the tour.

"We have organized a dinner at a nearby site where we can discuss any question you have left about the Hathor project and what it means to the relationship between our nations as well as other matters you are interested in. I hope it will be satisfying for you and will make up for the rather embarassing start of your visit."

The diplomats departed the ICBM site and drove to the nearby location where the meeting was to be held and while that they were having some small talk and changed opinions on the recent russian nobel price laureate Nicolay Kapitsa and his work about the use of trans-newtonian elements in medicine. They arrived at their restaurant a few minutes later and were lead in a private room in the barren establishment.

"I apologize about the iritations in our organization of the event you had to witness. We are currently experiencing some major restructuring in some parts of our gouvernment and some things are not working as they should yet.
As you have wrote me beforehand you have not only come to visit our Hathor launch site and to talk about the nature of the relation between our nations in face of the trans-newtonian age but also about the incident with our intelligence team a few months ago. Which what topic do you want to start? I suggest we first answer any questions the unpleasent incindent caused so we can then freely talk about the future of our nations. You have expressed your wish to have it htat way and I understand it as it must have seem like a strike against the ability to trust each other and a provocation to you, which it surely was not meant, so I would suggest you to begin with questions you have about this to me which I will answer as well as I can, as you proposed."

OOC: I'm sorry it took me so long to answer. I have been pretty busy until this week.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on June 01, 2016, 12:28:04 PM
Mister Secretary General, fellow delegates, ladies and gentlemen,

You all know that one topic has been dear to me during my entire political career: addressing the threat of nuclear weapons, here on Earth and out there in space. The history of nuclear disarmement is a glorious one, but it is incomplete. Since SALT 7 limited the number of deployed warhead to 360 per country 20 years ago, no further progress has been made. Indeed, for many it has become accepted wisdom that no further reduction is possible. With three powers in equilibrium, any two power neogitating a reduction would find themselves vulnerable.

However, in this field as in many other, transnewtonics threaten to upset the statu quo. Trans-newtonions weapons will make conventional deterrants obsolete. If we do not act now, a trans-newtonian arms race, and its potentially deadly consequences are inevitable.

Today, I, in the name of the North American Union government, will act to prevent such a future. As I speak, senior engineers at DARPA are putting the final touches to a brand new weapon, quite unlike anything that was ever fielded. The so-called "meson cannon" can penetrate any shielding known to man. It can target moving moving object such as ICBMs across hundred of km of athmosphere.

The meson cannon is exactly the kind of weapon that could break the current armament statu quo. And we intend to use it to achieve disarmament.

As of this moment, the Russian Confederation has twenty-four hours* to evacuate and destroy its ICBMs bases. After that deadline, we will destroy any ICBM silo still standing. Once that is done, we will enter negotiations with the FSA about removing and destroying Earth's last nukes.

In order to ensure that the Russian confederation does not recreate a nuclear capability in secret, we also demand that NAU and FSA observers be allowed aboard the Russian military yard in orbit and in Russian industry. If this demand is not met, we will turn the Meson Cannon toward the Russian orbital yards.

One day is a short time, so I won't be taking questions right now. I will retire to the NAU Delegation's office to await confirmation that our demands have been met.

* Game time of course. You can take a couple IRL days to respond
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 01, 2016, 12:59:26 PM
Nikki De Boer, Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)

Disarmament is a noble goal, but we are deeply concerned that the time-frame of a forced removal of ICBM bases is more designed to bring earth to cinders then to make peace.  The FSA is willing to discuss a staggered reduction of ICBM bases over a timeframe, allowing a single base to exist for probe launches and to serve as a historical monument to the technology. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vasious on June 01, 2016, 04:42:20 PM
The "honourable" Delegate of the Union of North American Union

Is this how your President intents to show the world, how the North American Union will conduct business with the rest of the nations of Earth.
At the end of the barrel of a RADIATION WEAPON?

A Directed Energy Radiation weapon! Do you not remember the Geneva Conventions? Are we to take it that the North American Union is not a Signatory any more?

Behold my fellows of the Assembly of Nations of Earth, the North American Union, who interrupt the discussion on how the Solar System can be peaceable, PEACEABLE, opened up to the whole of humanity, by, in One Breath, declaring they have a weapon rendering ICBMs obsolete for the rest of days, and in another breath decreeing they have the right and need to use that weapon on the Russian confederation, to remove out obsolete ICMBs by IRRADIATING LARGE PORTIONS OF OUR COUNTRY FROM ORBIT WITH OUT ANY THOUGHT ON THE LONG TERM EFFECTS ON THE CIVILIAN POPULATION OR OUR NEIGHBOURS.

I call for an Emergency vote by this Assembly to Censure the North American Union for this Jingoism, and illegal demand.
I call for this assembly to Censure the North American Union for its threats of Terror Bombing by Radiological Weapons of the Russian Confederation and whomever other poor nation falls under the radiation the North American union threatens to bring down on us all.

After all once they have taken our "obsolete" Nuclear weapons, what other weapons will they deem unsafe for the rest of your to have. Will they deem your economic and Political Sovereignty unsafe for you to keep, and declare for the greater good they will take it under threat of a slow painful death by radiation.

Vote now, show the North American Union where you stand on this bullying.

And then we can get back to peaceable exploration of the Solar System by Humanity as a whole, unmolested by war mongers wasting resources of bigger sticks to try to keep the rest of us down with.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vasious on June 01, 2016, 05:41:27 PM
The Right Honourable Nikki De Boer


The Russian Confederation are open to the discussion your propose, we seek no conflict.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 01, 2016, 06:26:51 PM
The Right Honourable Nikki De Boer


The Russian Confederation are open to the discussion your propose, we seek no conflict.

The FSA makes the following proposal for discussion at this emergency meeting

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- Wheras new technologies make ICBMs mostly ineffective
- Wheras all our nations are dedicated to peace
- Wheras to properly dismantle ICBMs and reassign officers may take longer then 24 hours
It be hearby resolved

Each of the major powers have 32 ICBM complexes.
Each power will decommission 5 bases a month for six months, eliminating 30 bases.
Of the remaining two bases for each side, they shall be open for inspection by all parties
One shall be a launch complex for the peaceful exploration of space, as all parties have expressed interest in reusing the ICBMs or launch tubes to explore space
One shall remain inactive for training and historical preservation. 
ICBMs shall be scrapped unless intended to be converted to a probe launcher
All sides reconfirm that the OST bans nuclear weapons from orbit.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on June 02, 2016, 04:02:38 AM
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I have always been one of the strongest supporters of peace and disarmament, but even I cannot imagine a one-sided disarmament under threat of destruction. Such a disarmament is no way to assure peace for future generations, it is nothing but an insane attempt at world domination at all costs. This is not working towards peace, this is risking all our lives in nuclear destruction.

I would be willing to discuss a peaceful and mutually respectful disarmament, I would wholeheartedly support such a thing and argue for it in my own country. Over time we would build trust as we have in the past and eventually succeed, one step at a time. What the NAU did now has ruined years of work towards that goal. I can only hope that the the people of the NAU does not stand behind their leaders in this and that the president will be removed from office before he leads the world into the only outcome a conflict of this scale could have - the mutually assured destruction we have managed to avoid for so many years.

At a time when humanity is standing at the threshold of finally exploring the solar system and reaching beyond our own planet, how can anyone risk our future with madness like this? I welcome the FSA voice of sanity at this emergency meeting and I agree the first order of business must be for the NAU to withdraw their threat of starting war within the impossible deadline of 24 hours.

Aleksis Klimov, member of the quickly assembled RC delegation to the emergency meeting
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on June 02, 2016, 05:10:31 AM
The honourable Russian representative should stop making a fool of himself by talking about technologies he doesn't understand. The meson cannon is not a radiation gun, nor does it causes radiation sickness. All it does is create a small explosion, through all armor known to man.

I may demonstrate, if you'd be so good as to look through the window.

*As the delegates turns to the large window overlooking the shore of Lake Leman, a brief flash can be seen a tens of meters from the shore, followed by a booming sound.*

I'd be honoured to take a walk near the site of the explosion, there are no radiation to fear.

Now, as for the proposed treaty by the FSA, it is most interesting and along the line of what we hoped to achieve. In line with it, I am currently discussing with Congress the possibility of only demanding the destruction of 10 or Russia's ICBM bases, if they comply with our other demands.

We do not feel however that it would be wise to retract our demands at the moment. Disarmement has been stalled by Russia for decades, and they are now again looking for excuses to delay it. The fear of war, or nuclear armageddon are unfounded when, for the first time in a century and a half, we are in the power of stopping any nuclear weapon, anywhere at the surface of the globe.

So I urge Russia not to sacrifice the lives of its servicement in a futile gesture and to evacuate the ICBMs bases. You only have 16 hours left.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 02, 2016, 07:27:49 AM
Nikki De Boer, Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)


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Today I speak not for Zambia, nor just for the Free State Alliance.   I speak for humanity as a whole.

We speak here today since we are diplomats, seekers of obtaining some sort of mutual agreement.

We ask that the North American Union - a government that we view as a friend, to take a deep breath.

We find this move very worry some on a number of levels.   For example, the NAU has never discussed  nuclear disarmament, even to their closest ally.   It would of been helpful to have discussed elimination of nuclear weapons as a goal, after all, the FSA will be losing hundreds of man hours of research that was going into our ICBM+ project.

The NAU has stated that our proposed treaty is what they were seeking, the FSA and the non-aligned powers such as Switzerland and Norway have been in deep discussion with the Russian confederation, and we believe that we can get Russia to the table to agree to the treaty.   If Russia agrees to such a treaty, one that the North American Union has stated that meets it goals, then why is the North American Union then following up with saying "we might only blow up 10 of their ICBM bases", if one does that, I am sure the Russians, FSA, and the EU would see it to be the end of the Reunion treaty, and we would be forced to redeploy our ground forces in a much more aggressive manner, due to the unneeded use of force when  you can force a treaty down the throats of the world without firing a shot.

If Russia agrees to the treaty, the treaty that the NAU has publicly stated meets it goals for nuclear disarmament, and then the NAU follows up with a attack, it would cause permanent damage to our friendship. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on June 02, 2016, 11:45:08 AM
Ladies and gentleman,

As I speak, Russia has announced that it had placed its ICBMs on high alert, and pointed them at the United States. Russia lack the advanced TN sensors system needed to target military installation, meaning that it has only one potential target: the US civilian population. Faced with a demand to disarm, Russia is indeed preparing to attempt the worst case of mass murder in the history of mankind. What further proof is needed that any international disarmement effort must begin by forcing Russia to jettison its instruments of genocdes.

I am confident that Peacekeeper will protect us from any Russian strike. However, I cannot stay in Geneva while nuclear weapons are aimed at American cities. I will now fly back to the Capital, to await the resolution of this crisis by the President's side.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Vasious on June 02, 2016, 05:23:49 PM
[OOC]

Do I read correctly the NAU just demonstrated their Meson weapons by firing at Lake Leman?
As you they fired their weapon at another Sovereign Nation to serve as a demonstration?

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Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 02, 2016, 06:21:55 PM
[OOC]

Do I read correctly the NAU just demonstrated their Meson weapons by firing at Lake Leman?
As you they fired their weapon at another Sovereign Nation to serve as a demonstration?

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Admin OOC - I kinda was wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on June 03, 2016, 01:58:47 AM
OOC - On top of that the most peaceful and neutral country in the world. Which besides happen to be *very* protective about this lake. I know, I lived in the area for a time and if you so much as threw a paper in the sacred lake.. ouch.. no idea what they would have done to me if I fired a meson cannon on it.. But as a weapon demonstration I think it's brilliant, pure Dr: Evil stuff  ;D
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on June 03, 2016, 02:16:34 AM
OOC - I might have gone overboard there, but yeah, let's keep it canon.  ;D And we didn't fire AT the lake, we just made a bunch of empty air over the lake explode.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 03, 2016, 08:18:04 AM
Nikki De Boer, Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)

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Ladies and gentleman

I speak from the FSA War Council.

The FSA needs to make something clear.   We cannot have a unprovoked attack by one side on the other.   We feel that the NAU demands for Russia to remove it bases is unfounded, as if they are truly obsolete, then why threaten to eliminate them.

The FSA missile command, including Trans-Newtonian missiles, are on full standby, any NAU attack on Russia at this time, or a attack on the FSA will result in a full launch of the FSA missiles on targets in the NAU.  If the NAU attacks our sensor station, we will simply aim the missiles at their population.  We withdraw our treaty of ICBM reduction as well.   The NAU must rescind all their demands.  If the NAU dares to even lock on to our sensor base, we will withdraw from the OST.

Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 08, 2016, 03:40:41 PM
Akiko Jenson - Vrystaat Vloot (VSV) Attache


Due to the sensitive nature of the last few months, the Admiralty Office of the Vrystaat Vloot (VSV) confirms that the "Deep Sand" PDCs registered as per the UN registration treaty do not contain any Mesons.   Unlike the  Antarctic Mission Control (Registered as Early Bird 001) which is a civilian site, the "Deep Sand" PDCs are military in nature.  The "Deep Sand" bases purposes are classified.

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Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Red Dot on June 15, 2016, 12:24:19 PM
Dear Secretary-General of the United Nations,

The North American Union strongly protests the latest attempt by the rogue government of the Free State Alliance to lay claim to a planetary body of the solar system.  By preventing the North American Union from defending its future colonists on Mars, the FSA is de facto claiming sovereignty over Mars contrary the UN-sanctioned Outer Space Treaty.

We would like you to convene the UN Security Council to allow the presentation by the North American Union to present a Resolution to this effect.  This blatant attempt at 'planet grabbing' cannot be allowed to succeed if we wish the colonisation of the solar system to occur peacefully. We are convinced that the other members of the Security Council will see it our way.

Cordially,

Lorenzo Rosso
President of the North American Union
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 15, 2016, 10:46:58 PM
Dear North American Union,

Your nation tried to violently attack another nation less then 12 months ago - we make no claim to Mars or Titan, you are free to settle, farm, and mine on Mars and Titan. 

We will defend our existent bases will full measure of our military force.  You have shown that you are unable to work peacefully with other nations, and we will not allow the North American Union to attempt to invade our outposts on Mars or Titan.    We will view any attempt to land ground forces on Mars or Titan without a written treaty to establish the peaceful co-existence of those forces with the established colonies of the Free State Alliance to be a attempt to attack our existent bases and a direct aggressive act on the Free State Alliance.   Non-aligned and Russian Confederation are not under this warning, as they have shown themselves as peace loving nations who the FSA trust to keep their treaty agreements.   

It is no claim made on Mars or Titan, even if the FSA was the first to land on said bodies, and have had uninterrupted settlements, just that we make it clear that it a line that shall not be crossed is landing military forces on Mars or Titan by the NAU. 

If the North American Union is what they claim, a peaceful body dedicated to peace, then act that way.     
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on June 22, 2016, 01:39:54 PM
Free State Alliance , Russian Confederation sign Treaty of Friendship.

The FSA and Russian Confederation signed a treaty of friendship with each other today.   While the details are classified, the FSA senate did confirm a few features.

- A general agreement to not go to war with each other
- to peacefully and quietly deal with issues of mutual concern
- To expand trade and information exchanges between the two powers
- that Russia gains access to FSA bases on Mars and Titan
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on July 16, 2016, 01:56:09 AM
Given that all nations now own TN sensor platform, I think the UN registry of ships should be updated to include tonnage and speed information of new ships.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 16, 2016, 11:58:33 AM
FSA does not mind tonnage - Speed can be sandbagged  :P

In addition, information can be released up to the "Janes" data-set as well. 

will let Russia Chime in.   
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on July 16, 2016, 12:00:12 PM
I'm willing to keep the database up-to-date for future addition if you want. It'd give a nice info to lurkers.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 16, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
Just as a note - I keep a database already as part of my admin duties, so I could post it easily enough.  Just want to see what team Russia has to say. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on July 16, 2016, 12:41:11 PM
Any ships leaving earth can just be checked with active sensor anyway I guess so I see no reason not to do this.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 16, 2016, 12:45:26 PM
Any ships leaving earth can just be checked with active sensor anyway I guess so I see no reason not to do this.

I will update the registry on Sunday/Monday with the tonnage.   Speed I will let be self-reported or nations reporting the speed observed of other side's ships then.   

Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 16, 2016, 06:14:54 PM
Nikki De Boer,  Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)

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We are hereby notifying that our lawyers have determined that construction battalions and garrison units are not "Military" in nature, and are allowed in space.

Thus the ban on garrison Units and Construction Battalions on worlds that hold FSA settlements are no longer viewed as hostile actions.

However, the FSA is reserving the right to inspect any troop transport to confirm that only Garrison units and Construction Battalions are onboard.   For transparency will also allow any party to inspect FSA troop transports as long as the FSA is bound by the Outer Space Treaty.

We will once again ask that the powers open discussion on updating the treaty for the new era.   
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on July 17, 2016, 02:40:51 AM
While we welcome this change, I must stress that as far as I know, neither the NAU nor the RC have ever acknowledged the right of the FSA to dictate what kind of military units they might deploy on other worlds. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on July 17, 2016, 08:59:47 AM
I submit the following speed information to the UN registry:

FSA:
van der Heijden: 973 km/s
Scipio Africanus: 2500 km/s
Fasjr: 73 km/s

For some reason, I don't see the speed of the David Livingstone in the logs

NAU
Kombi:1093 km/s
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on July 17, 2016, 09:18:30 AM
At the appointed time for his speech, Al-Shebi, in hologram form, materialize at the podium in front of the general assembly.

Honourable delegates of Earth's nations,

In the name of the North American Union, I stand in front of you today to offer an additionnal protocol to the Outer Space Treaty for ratification.

On the seas of Earth, it has long been accepted that a ship's captain has a duty to rescue anyone stranded at sea. No such duty has been codified for space vessels yet. As more and more vessels start roaming the vast interplanetary spaces, accidents are bound to happen. We need to make sure that, if someone is stranded out there, assistance be brought with all possible speed. The Protocol for the Safety of Life in Space (SOLIS) reads as such:

The Master of a spaceship which is in a position to be able to provide assistance, on receiving information from any source that persons are in distress in space, is bound to proceed with all practical speed to their assistance, if possible informing them or the search and rescue service that the ship is doing so, as long as doing so does not put his own ship in overwhelming danger.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 17, 2016, 12:51:37 PM
At the appointed time for his speech, Al-Shebi, in hologram form, materialize at the podium in front of the general assembly.

Honourable delegates of Earth's nations,

In the name of the North American Union, I stand in front of you today to offer an additionnal protocol to the Outer Space Treaty for ratification.

On the seas of Earth, it has long been accepted that a ship's captain has a duty to rescue anyone stranded at sea. No such duty has been codified for space vessels yet. As more and more vessels start roaming the vast interplanetary spaces, accidents are bound to happen. We need to make sure that, if someone is stranded out there, assistance be brought with all possible speed. The Protocol for the Safety of Life in Space (SOLIS) reads as such:

The Master of a spaceship which is in a position to be able to provide assistance, on receiving information from any source that persons are in distress in space, is bound to proceed with all practical speed to their assistance, if possible informing them or the search and rescue service that the ship is doing so, as long as doing so does not put his own ship in overwhelming danger.


Nikki De Boer,  Deputy Attache to the UN (Zambia)

The FSA ruling council wishes to express full support of the NAU proposal of the Protocol for the Safety of Life in Space (SOLIS).   


(OOC note: Do be careful on picking up lifeboats, as I think even with allies they become POWs and cannot be repatriated.  So perhaps seek permission to pick up lifeboats unless someone knows how to return POWs or make them not POWs. )
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on July 18, 2016, 01:26:56 AM
OOC: Then I guess the interrogation effect will always happen regardless of if the people in RP terms would be interrogated or not? Otherwise I'm not sure if keeping POW:s has any effect or not.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 18, 2016, 09:43:12 AM
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The Protocol for the Safety of Life in Space (SOLIS):

The Master of a spaceship which is in a position to be able to provide assistance, on receiving information from any source that persons are in distress in space, is bound to proceed with all practical speed to their assistance, if possible informing them or the search and rescue service that the ship is doing so, as long as doing so does not put his own ship in overwhelming danger.

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The Ruling council will submit this for ratification by the FSA senate when/if the Russian Confederation and the NAU sign the treaty.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on July 18, 2016, 09:51:11 AM
In the name of the NAU I'm proud to sign this protocol.


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Signed:  FSA, NAU
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on July 18, 2016, 09:54:33 AM
The Russian Duma will vote on the SOLIS proposal in their next session.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on July 19, 2016, 11:58:09 AM
As UN representative for the Russian Confederation I hereby declare our support for the SOLIS.
Aleksis Klimov
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Post by: Drgong on July 23, 2016, 11:11:53 AM
Proposal for modification of the OST.

The FSA proposes the following.

Establishing of EEZ.

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that to carry out the orderly use of the materials located in planetary bodies, that each power shall be able to add up to five small bodies (Small bodies are bodies that are not planets, moons, or comets) as a exclusive Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).  This grants them exclusive mining access and use of the body, but does not establish ownership.  Claiming requires placing mining other gear on the body.


Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on July 23, 2016, 11:14:03 AM
While this could work, I think that to avoid conflicts, more bodies ought to be claimable. Comets and moons at the very least are plentiful enough for everyone to get something.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 23, 2016, 11:27:49 AM
While this could work, I think that to avoid conflicts, more bodies ought to be claimable. Comets and moons at the very least are plentiful enough for everyone to get something.

One of my main concerns about moons and comets is private companies like to establish mining bases on those.  Perhaps if we had a agreement that if a private company establishes a mining base on a moon or comet that the power who claimed it could "Tax" the private company might work. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 23, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
Sol Treaty Organization

We are aware that we are not alone, the alien ruins discovered have proven this.  We do not know if they may return at some point.

We hereby propose the Sol Treaty Organization

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Article 1
The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international dispute in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered, and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.

Article 2
The Parties will contribute toward the further development of peaceful and friendly international relations by strengthening their free institutions, by bringing about a better understanding of the principles upon which these institutions are founded, and by promoting conditions of stability and well-being. They will seek to eliminate conflict in their international economic policies and will encourage economic collaboration between any or all of them.

Article 3
In order more effectively to achieve the objectives of this Treaty, the Parties, separately and jointly, by means of continuous and effective self-help and mutual aid, will maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack.

Article 4
The Parties will consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the Parties is threatened by a non-human force.

Article 5
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Sol System by a non-human force shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the Sol System.

Article 6
For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack by a non-human:

on the territory of any of the Parties on Earth, or any body in the Sol System

on the forces, vessels, or fighters of any of the Parties, when in the Sol System.


Article 7
The Parties hereby establish a Council, on which each of them shall be represented, to consider matters concerning the implementation of this Treaty. The Council shall be so organised as to be able to meet promptly at any time. The Council shall set up such subsidiary bodies as may be necessary; in particular it shall establish immediately a defence committee which shall recommend measures for the implementation of Articles 3 and 5.

Article 8
This Treaty shall be ratified and its provisions carried out by the Parties in accordance with their respective constitutional processes. The instruments of ratification shall be deposited as soon as possible with the UN, which will notify all the other signatories of each deposit. The Treaty shall enter into force between the States which have ratified it as soon as the ratifications of the majority of the signatories.

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Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 23, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
The The Protocol for the Safety of Life in Space (SOLIS) as been ratified by the FSA.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 25, 2016, 02:32:19 PM
The EU has signed the following treaties

Outer Space Treaty (OST)
Safety of Life in Space (SOLIS)
United Nations Revised Treaty
Treaty of Réunion
UN registration Treaty
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on July 28, 2016, 09:45:20 AM
The FSA wishes to inquire if there is a wish for the FSA, EU, RUS, and NAU to have a security council meeting to discuss the Red Duncanite threat.   
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: DaMachinator on July 31, 2016, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: Gaius Julius Machinatus
As the appointed representative for any security council meetings concerning the Red Duncanite threat, the Russian Confederation is interested in such a meeting.
 - Gaius Julius Machinatus
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 01, 2016, 05:43:28 AM
We are willing to discuss it, even though it's not clear how much of a threat they are.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 12, 2016, 01:51:45 PM
Treaty on Establishing Elusive Economic Zones on worlds.

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To establish the orderly and peaceful use of materials in space, Nations are able to declare a EEZ on some worlds

Worlds excluded from being decalred a EEZ

-- All true planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune
-- The moons of Earth and Mars
-- Habitable moons (Europa, Ganymede, Castillo, Io, Titan)

Establishment of EEZ

--the power must place mining or other equipment on a world, and register it to the UN.

EEZ establishes
--Exclusive access to that worlds resources
--no power may land on the world or build installations without the expressed permission of the EEZ owner
--if a Commercial enity establishes a commercial mining operation, the EEZ owner is owed half the minerals produced on that world, or a payment of 1200 credit a year.   The choice between minerals or wealth is up to the EEZ owner. 

Number of EEZ
This treaty allows each power to claim five (5) moons or other objects as EEZ in the Sol System. 

The FSA views this as a high priority to discussion.   We are willing to discuss the particulars, but we must obtain limited claiming or EEZ rights or we will be forced to leave the OST. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 15, 2016, 05:05:44 AM
First of all, I'd like to insist that I am only talking in my name, not that of the NAU as we haven't reached a consensus on this yet.

I think that we need two separate treaty, one for claims by a nation, one for claims by private mining companies. I also think that we should allow some claiming of habitable bodies by various nations, although I am not sure exactly what criteria should be used to grant sovereignty.

In the meantime, I propose this as a solution to the exploitation of space by private interests:

Treaty on Civilian Concession in Space:

1) Any Civilian Mining Corporation establishing a mining outpost on a barren body immediately gain an exclusive concession to that body, enforce by the Company's country.

2) If another CMC tries to establish a mining outpost on a body that is already the concession of another company, all its infranstructure is liable to be seized by the company owning the concession.

3) If a mining outpost is established on a body already hosting populations or significant (10+) mines belonging to another country, both the CMC and the government of the pre-existing colony will get a join concession.

4) The concession lasts until the mineral runs out. As long as a company has a concession, it's parent government exercise sovereignty on the body and in space for 1.000 km around it.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on August 15, 2016, 06:12:41 AM
The RC recognizes the need for establishing exclusive claims since this will reduce tension between spacefaring powers. For this system to work it is however important that any claims are recognized and respected by all involved parties.

It will likely take time before a general treaty covering all aspects and agreeable to all can be reached. In the meantime the RC would, in the interest of world peace, be prepared to negotiate about and recognize specific claims on a case by case basis.

We do not believe granting private enterprises ownership of system bodies is a good model. Instead we propose that if several CMC:s operate on the same body we declare it a de-militarized zone for civilian exploitation only. If on the other hand a CMC wish to operate on a body which is under jurisdiction of a nation it would have to operate under the laws of that nation (in game terms taken over).
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 15, 2016, 11:12:57 AM
The RC recognizes the need for establishing exclusive claims since this will reduce tension between spacefaring powers. For this system to work it is however important that any claims are recognized and respected by all involved parties.

It will likely take time before a general treaty covering all aspects and agreeable to all can be reached. In the meantime the RC would, in the interest of world peace, be prepared to negotiate about and recognize specific claims on a case by case basis.

We do not believe granting private enterprises ownership of system bodies is a good model. Instead we propose that if several CMC:s operate on the same body we declare it a de-militarized zone for civilian exploitation only. If on the other hand a CMC wish to operate on a body which is under jurisdiction of a nation it would have to operate under the laws of that nation (in game terms taken over).

We are much closer to the Russian confederation model.   The FSA has begun the process of carrying out development on two outer system bodies.   This includes placing of small geological teams and also mines to carry out the production.   We do not wish to disclose the locations of these bodies at this time but we view that the Free State Alliance, in locating, developing, and now mining said bodies should be the exclusive domain of the Free State Alliance.  Outside of Luna, the FSA was the first nation to land on every planet and moon in Sol.  The FSA flag flies on each one of these rocks and transmitters beep into the void from the gas giants.   For a nation to obtain a claim on a handful is not unreasonable.

For inhabited planets, the main issue is that all the planets and moons suitable for colonization already have more then one colony minus the very harsh worlds inside of Earth.

We are agreeable to a gentleman's agreement - Excluding some specific  worlds (Mars, Luna, the 4 major Jovian moons, and Titan, which already have colonies from more then one power) the ability to claim X amount of worlds, we would be agreeable to. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 16, 2016, 06:10:57 AM
The FSA dropped a flag. The Union was the first power to establish permanent presence on all of these world (save Mars, but even then the FSA only landed a handful of scientists).

We do not mind in principle the FSA claiming a few asteroids as long as we get some as well.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 16, 2016, 11:44:30 AM
The FSA dropped a flag. The Union was the first power to establish permanent presence on all of these world (save Mars, but even then the FSA only landed a handful of scientists).

We do not mind in principle the FSA claiming a few asteroids as long as we get some as well.

Then why do we not keep it simple.

- Each power can claim up to five uninhabited worlds excluding the mainline planets (but not their moons)
- Any Commercial mining company that establishes itself on a claimed world can be removed or taxed by the claiming power.
-Claims are made by submitting the name to the UN.
- If a body is claimed by more then one power in the first claiming paperwork, it will be randomly determined.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 16, 2016, 12:02:13 PM
I don't like that randomly determined parts: let the countries hash it out between them.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on August 16, 2016, 01:03:56 PM
We believe a final decision by neutral UN appointed judges (random) should be made if no other agreement can be reached. This is in the interest of avoiding increasing tensions between the space powers.

Still with this mechanism there is nothing stopping us from discussing our claims with each other. The RC would be open to letting other nations get exclusive claims they deem important - in return for concessions of other claims or maybe something in another area altogether to let us all benefit.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 16, 2016, 01:16:03 PM
Well, Reinmuth, Fayne and Mercury would be of interest to the NAU.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 16, 2016, 01:39:34 PM
Well, Reinmuth, Fayne and Mercury would be of interest to the NAU.

We where planning to look into Fayne, and we already have some mining equipment on Mercury.

That said, we would be willing to remove our mines from Mercury and give up claims on those (Reinmuth, Fayne and Mercury) for claims on the Moons of Deimos (Mars), Puck (Uranus)  and Triton(Neptune).   We wish to use Deimos as a supply base for our fleet and to defend our soon to be millions of citizens located on Mars (while at the same time keeping Mars somewhat demilitarized), and Puck and Triton we have existing mining bases though our government owned OSMC (Outer System Mining Company) project.

In return for Russia and the NAU recognizing these three claims, we would be willing to Recognize Reinmuth, Fayne, and Mercury as NAU territory and then three sites for Russian (and three for EU) claims).  If this is agreeable we will put in a civilian order to remove the automines from Mercury 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 16, 2016, 02:12:46 PM
Does the EU wants to expand to outer space as well? I though the Ark has calmed them.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 16, 2016, 06:02:38 PM
Does the EU wants to expand to outer space as well? I though the Ark has calmed them.

It ended Turkey's goals, but they still plan to have some mining and colonies in space.  Just that they are being more conservative. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 19, 2016, 11:36:07 AM
We would like to offer our condoleance to the Russian Confederation for the death of its crew. The despicable use of nuclear weapons in space flies against everything we believe in. We are ready to offer the support of our PC Union for any punitive expedition the RC whishes to perform.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on August 19, 2016, 12:26:13 PM
From a brief Russian Confederation press release:

And unarmed research vessel of the Zond class was attacked and destroyed by nuclear missiles near Uranus today without prior warning. 9 of the scientists aboard have been confirmed dead. Attacking unarmed civilians goes against not only the laws of war but also the laws of space as agreed upon by all spacefaring nations. The RC will consider the perpetrators of this act terrorists.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 19, 2016, 01:00:18 PM
We are deeply shocked by this use of weapons of mass destruction vs. a unarmed survey ship.  This is a unacceptable act of terror.

The FSA high council has offered a task group battle group (VSS Hannibal, which has deep space experience, and two B's to provide additional firepower) to work in concert with the Russian Confederation to aid in any attack needed.

In addition, the Lifeboat "Joy of Durban" based near Titan has been ordered to go into harms way to seek any survivors. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 19, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
We can dispatch the PC Union to escort the "Joy of Durban".
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 19, 2016, 04:45:33 PM
We can dispatch the PC Union to escort the "Joy of Durban".

Due to time being of the essence, we will gladly have it in the area, but the crew will not be waiting for a escort.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on August 23, 2016, 01:08:36 PM
The Russian Confederation will recognize the 3 claims of the FSA.

Regarding the NAU claims we see it as problematic that one them is a whole planet. But to proceed with this matter we would initially be willing to recognize the claim to Reinmuth in return for NAU recognition of a russian claim on Vesta.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 23, 2016, 07:35:16 PM
The Russian Confederation will recognize the 3 claims of the FSA.

Regarding the NAU claims we see it as problematic that one them is a whole planet. But to proceed with this matter we would initially be willing to recognize the claim to Reinmuth in return for NAU recognition of a russian claim on Vesta.

The FSA will recognize the Russian claim on Vesta without issue.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on August 24, 2016, 04:12:21 AM
We have no problem with the Russian claim in principle, but we do not feel comfortable formally recognizing any claims of the RC. Why would a planet be off-limit but a minor planet not? The importance of claims is the amount of TN minerals they cover and their position, not their size in term of mundane rocks.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on August 24, 2016, 12:51:49 PM
As a standard note to all parties.

The FSA Patrol craft will be operating with active sensors.

A Task Group will be headed to Uranus in support of the Russian confederation.

In addition, Patrol craft will be station in the Saturn and Jovian areas to protect FSA civilian colonies.  This is in addition to patrol craft that may be stationed at the Demos Logistic base near Mars. 

Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: TheDOC on September 02, 2016, 06:41:11 AM
The Foreign Minister of the Russian Confederation would like a talk with its homologue of the North American Union, we will arrange a private room in the UN building.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Bughunter on September 02, 2016, 01:02:52 PM
Maybe start a separate thread for it, lesson learned from last time with our Stockholm meeting.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: TheDOC on September 03, 2016, 11:31:41 AM
Maybe start a separate thread for it, lesson learned from last time with our Stockholm meeting.

Yeah, i am okay too with some PM. I just don't know who is in charge of FR in the NAU.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on September 04, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
We do not have a dedicated FM at the moment, jeust start a thread.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on September 05, 2016, 10:52:36 AM
The EU wishes to make the following claims

Cybele
Tempel 1
Machholz


They will recognize all claims by powers who also recognize their claims.  (Since that is what other nations have been asking.)

also, FSA/EU will agree to recognize each other claims. 
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Drgong on September 13, 2016, 03:57:48 PM
EU is happy to announce that all sides have agrees to the EU claims, and the EU recognizes all current claims.
Title: Re: United Nations Thread
Post by: Sheb on September 26, 2016, 03:21:53 AM
We would like to announce that the General Minerals Mining Corporation has started exploiting the small asteroid of Borelly. As such, the NAU lays a claim to the asteroid.