Union des peuples federees de la terre

[bobterrius (OP)]

Hello everybody.

So first of all, the parameters of the fleet: all researches, and few limitations regarding shipyard size or price.

For this game, I have start by designing vessels before thinking a doctrine of use. So, I have try to find a doctrine after the creation of the fleet, but I am open to all propositions and advices.


Let's start.

First, the big beasts.

The Cuirassée Laser: designed to take and give big damage. Design to operate with supply ships.

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M Charles de Gaulle class Cuirassee Laser    50 000 tons     2024 Crew     118765.5 BP      TCS 1000  TH 10000  EM 13500
10000 km/s     Armour 36-120     Shields 450-300     Sensors 900/900/0/0     Damage Control Rating 54     PPV 570.96
Maint Life 1.48 Years     MSP 36371    AFR 816%    IFR 11.3%    1YR 18524    5YR 277863    Max Repair 5000 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Spare Berths 0    

Snecma 10000gp (1)    Power 10000    Fuel Use 28.28%    Signature 10000    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 2 000 000 Litres    Range 25.5 billion km   (29 days at full power)
Bouclier Deflecteur Omega (30)   Total Fuel Cost  450 Litres per hour  (10 800 per day)

Giat 75L30 (10)    Range 1 400 000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 147-25     RM 12    ROF 30        147 147 147 147 147 147 147 147 147 147
Dassault TLQuad 15L5TR (6x4)    Range 720 000km     TS: 50000 km/s     Power 24-25     RM 12    ROF 5        6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Giat 2x30L5-12 (4x2)    Range 1 400 000km     TS: 12500 km/s     Power 48-50     RM 12    ROF 5        24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24
Giat 52L15 (10)    Range 1 400 000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 71-25     RM 12    ROF 15        71 71 71 71 71 71 71 71 71 71
Bouclier Actif AM 16/5 (4x16)    Range 1000 km     TS: 100000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Sagem CTL 700/10er (2)    Max Range: 1 400 000 km   TS: 10000 km/s     99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Sagem CTLam 500/262 (3)    Max Range: 525 000 km   TS: 50000 km/s     98 96 94 92 90 89 87 85 83 81
Sagem CTL 125/700 (1)    Max Range: 1 400 000 km   TS: 12500 km/s     99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Wartzila 100/2 (1)     Total Power Output 100    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Suilzer 300/5TC (1)     Total Power Output 300    Armour 0    Exp 35%
Wartzila 420/7TC (1)     Total Power Output 420    Armour 0    Exp 35%
Suilzer 30/.5TC (1)     Total Power Output 30    Armour 0    Exp 35%

Safran DA 50/95 (1)     GPS 900     Range 95.5m km    Resolution 50
Safran DA 6m/14 (1)     GPS 18     Range 13.5m km    MCR 1.5m km    Resolution 1
Thales DET 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
Thales DEM 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km

Compact ECCM-10 (6)         ECM 100

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

In service: Charles de Gaulle, Georges Pompidou

A variant of this cuirassée obtain by retrieving all the big laser gun and replacing them by anti missile armament. His main duty is to protect the fleet to whom he is attached against any missile or FAC threat.

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M Charles de Gaulle Mod.2 AA class Cuirassee d'escorte    50 000 tons     1648 Crew     126668.5 BP      TCS 1000  TH 10000  EM 18000
10000 km/s     Armour 36-120     Shields 600-300     Sensors 900/900/0/0     Damage Control Rating 49     PPV 485.28
Maint Life 1.3 Years     MSP 30083    AFR 1052%    IFR 14.6%    1YR 18825    5YR 282368    Max Repair 5000 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12.4 months    Spare Berths 0    
Magazine 1030    

Snecma 10000gp (1)    Power 10000    Fuel Use 28.28%    Signature 10000    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 2 000 000 Litres    Range 25.5 billion km   (29 days at full power)
Bouclier Deflecteur Omega (40)   Total Fuel Cost  600 Litres per hour  (14 400 per day)

Dassault TLQuad 15L5TR (20x4)    Range 720 000km     TS: 50000 km/s     Power 24-25     RM 12    ROF 5        6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Giat 2x30L5-12 (8x2)    Range 1 400 000km     TS: 12500 km/s     Power 48-50     RM 12    ROF 5        24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24
Bouclier Actif AM 16/5 (2x16)    Range 1000 km     TS: 100000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Sagem CTLam 500/262 (9)    Max Range: 525 000 km   TS: 50000 km/s     98 96 94 92 90 89 87 85 83 81
Sagem CTL 125/700 (2)    Max Range: 1 400 000 km   TS: 12500 km/s     99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Suilzer 50/1 (1)     Total Power Output 50    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Wartzila 100/2 (1)     Total Power Output 100    Armour 0    Exp 20%
Suilzer 30/.5TC (1)     Total Power Output 30    Armour 0    Exp 35%
Wartzila 420/7TC (1)     Total Power Output 420    Armour 0    Exp 35%
Suilzer 300/5TC (1)     Total Power Output 300    Armour 0    Exp 35%

Lanceur Aster 1/15 (40)    Missile Size 1    Rate of Fire 15
Sagem CTM 6m/88 (10)     Range 810.0m km    Resolution 1
Aster 80 (1010)  Speed: 299 000 km/s   End: 4.7m    Range: 84.3m km   WH: 3    Size: 1    TH: 12956/7774/3887

Thales DAM 6m/147 (1)     GPS 1800     Range 1 350.0m km    MCR 147.0m km    Resolution 1
Safran DA 50/954 (1)     GPS 9000     Range 954.6m km    Resolution 50
Thales DET 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
Thales DEM 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km

Compact ECCM-10 (21)         ECM 100

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
In service: René Coty

Then, the carrier of the fleet: able to carry 6 squadrons of fighter or FAC depending of the purpose of the mission.

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PA Ocean class Porte Aeronef d'escadre    50 000 tons     920 Crew     14406 BP      TCS 1000  TH 10000  EM 0
10000 km/s     Armour 16-120     Shields 0-0     Sensors 900/900/0/0     Damage Control Rating 86     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.84 Years     MSP 10084    AFR 357%    IFR 5%    1YR 3753    5YR 56302    Max Repair 5000 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 591    
Hangar Deck Capacity 30000 tons    

Snecma 10000gp (1)    Power 10000    Fuel Use 28.28%    Signature 10000    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 5 000 000 Litres    Range 63.6 billion km   (73 days at full power)

Bouclier Actif AM 16/5 (3x16)    Range 1000 km     TS: 100000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Thales DET 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
Thales DEM 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km

ECM 100

Strike Group
20x Ch Vautour M Chasseur Leger   Speed: 60000 km/s    Size: 10
20x Ch Vautour H Chasseur Leger   Speed: 60000 km/s    Size: 10
20x Ch Vautour L Chasseur Laser   Speed: 60000 km/s    Size: 10

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposesIn service: Ocean

The CAG:

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Ch Vautour H class Chasseur Leger    500 tons     5 Crew     822 BP      TCS 10  TH 600  EM 450
60000 km/s     Armour 2-5     Shields 15-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 6
Maint Life 2.57 Years     MSP 103    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 22    5YR 328    Max Repair 300 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 5    

Astazouse 600/2 (1)    Power 600    Fuel Use 152.77%    Signature 600    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 2.4 billion km   (10 hours at full power)
Bouclier Deflecteur Omega (1)   Total Fuel Cost  15 Litres per hour  (360 per day)

Bull HPM10-180/5 (2)    Range 175 000km     TS: 60000 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 18    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Matra CTLc 87/500 (1)    Max Range: 175 000 km   TS: 50000 km/s     94 89 83 77 71 66 60 54 49 43
Suilzer 6/.1 (1)     Total Power Output 6    Armour 0    Exp 35%

Safran DA 20/60 (1)     GPS 360     Range 60.4m km    Resolution 20

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


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Ch Vautour L class Chasseur Laser    500 tons     5 Crew     1273.5 BP      TCS 10  TH 600  EM 0
60000 km/s     Armour 6-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 6
Maint Life 2.83 Years     MSP 159    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 29    5YR 436    Max Repair 328 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 5    

Astazouse 600/2 (1)    Power 600    Fuel Use 152.77%    Signature 600    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 15 000 Litres    Range 3.5 billion km   (16 hours at full power)

Giat 10/5r (3)    Range 350 000km     TS: 60000 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 12    ROF 5        3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Matra CTLc 175/500 (1)    Max Range: 350 000 km   TS: 50000 km/s     97 94 91 89 86 83 80 77 74 71
Pielstick 9.2/.2 (1)     Total Power Output 9.2    Armour 0    Exp 12%

Safran DA 20/60 (1)     GPS 360     Range 60.4m km    Resolution 20

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes


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Ch Vautour M class Chasseur Leger    500 tons     7 Crew     594 BP      TCS 10  TH 600  EM 450
60000 km/s     Armour 2-5     Shields 15-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 6
Maint Life 2.68 Years     MSP 74    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 15    5YR 220    Max Repair 300 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 3    

Astazouse 600/2 (1)    Power 600    Fuel Use 152.77%    Signature 600    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 Litres    Range 2.4 billion km   (10 hours at full power)
Bouclier Deflecteur Omega (1)   Total Fuel Cost  15 Litres per hour  (360 per day)

Bul Mes10-180/5 (2)    Range 175 000km     TS: 60000 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 18    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Matra CTLc 87/500 (1)    Max Range: 175 000 km   TS: 50000 km/s     94 89 83 77 71 66 60 54 49 43
Suilzer 6/.1 (1)     Total Power Output 6    Armour 0    Exp 35%

Safran DA 20/60 (1)     GPS 360     Range 60.4m km    Resolution 20

This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and maintenance purposes

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Ch Buzzard class Chasseur Lourd    1 000 tons     8 Crew     3688 BP      TCS 20  TH 900  EM 1350
45000 km/s     Armour 6-8     Shields 45-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 9
Maint Life 0.41 Years     MSP 230    AFR 80%    IFR 1.1%    1YR 566    5YR 8485    Max Repair 1469 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 2    

Astazouse 900/3 (1)    Power 900    Fuel Use 151.21%    Signature 900    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 25 000 Litres    Range 3.0 billion km   (18 hours at full power)
Bouclier Deflecteur Omega (3)   Total Fuel Cost  45 Litres per hour  (1 080 per day)

Giat 30L5 (1)    Range 1 400 000km     TS: 45000 km/s     Power 24-25     RM 12    ROF 5        24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24
Sagem CTL 125/700 (1)    Max Range: 1 400 000 km   TS: 12500 km/s     99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Baudouin 25/0.5 (1)     Total Power Output 25    Armour 0    Exp 20%

Safran DA 20/60 (1)     GPS 360     Range 60.4m km    Resolution 20

ECM 50

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


The Command and supply vessel.

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S Athena class Batiment de Commandement et de Soutien    50 000 tons     1589 Crew     17982 BP      TCS 1000  TH 8000  EM 0
8000 km/s     Armour 12-120     Shields 0-0     Sensors 3750/3750/0/0     Damage Control Rating 255     PPV 0
Maint Life 13.56 Years     MSP 54568    AFR 88%    IFR 1.2%    1YR 552    5YR 8280    Max Repair 3750 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months    Flight Crew Berths 88    
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 4000 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Battalion    Magazine 396    Cargo Handling Multiplier 40    

Snecma 4000/50 (2)    Power 4000    Fuel Use 2.86%    Signature 4000    Exp 8%
Fuel Capacity 12 000 000 Litres    Range 1510.5 billion km   (2185 days at full power)

Bouclier Actif AM 16/5 (5x16)    Range 1000 km     TS: 100000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Aster 80 (396)  Speed: 299 000 km/s   End: 4.7m    Range: 84.3m km   WH: 3    Size: 1    TH: 12956/7774/3887

Thales DET 3750 (1)     Sensitivity 3750     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  3750m km
Thales DEM 3750 (1)     Sensitivity 3750     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  3750m km

ECM 100

Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
In service: Athena

With its CAG.

Sensor corvette.

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C Arethusa class Corvette Senseur    1 000 tons     17 Crew     2953.5 BP      TCS 20  TH 600  EM 900
30000 km/s     Armour 12-8     Shields 30-300     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.96 Years     MSP 646    AFR 22%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 221    5YR 3312    Max Repair 1800 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.2 months    Spare Berths 0    

Astazouse 600/2 (1)    Power 600    Fuel Use 152.77%    Signature 600    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 100 000 Litres    Range 11.8 billion km   (4 days at full power)
Bouclier Deflecteur Omega (2)   Total Fuel Cost  30 Litres per hour  (720 per day)

Safran DA 50/9545 (1)     GPS 90000     Range 9 545.9m km    Resolution 50

ECM 100

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
And assault Corvette.

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C Meteore class Corvette d'Assaut    1 000 tons     10 Crew     1155 BP      TCS 20  TH 1500  EM 0
75000 km/s     Armour 25-8     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 0
Maint Life 1.12 Years     MSP 180    AFR 32%    IFR 0.4%    1YR 145    5YR 2168    Max Repair 750 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.5 months    Spare Berths 2    
Drop Capacity: 2 Companies    

Astazouse 1500/5 (1)    Power 1500    Fuel Use 148.09%    Signature 1500    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 250 000 Litres    Range 30.4 billion km   (4 days at full power)

ECM 50

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

[bobterrius (OP)]

The fleet is also composed of some lone wolf designed to operate alone.

Azrael Furtif Carrier

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PA Azrael class Porte Aeronef Furtif    50 000 tons     1099 Crew     27597 BP      TCS 5  TH 600  EM 0
10000 km/s     Armour 25-120     Shields 0-0     Sensors 900/900/0/0     Damage Control Rating 126     PPV 0
Maint Life 3.89 Years     MSP 33114    AFR 208%    IFR 2.9%    1YR 3468    5YR 52027    Max Repair 15000 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 36 months    Flight Crew Berths 188   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 18000 tons     

Snecma 10000/50f (1)    Power 10000    Fuel Use 28.28%    Signature 600    Exp 20%
Fuel Capacity 10 000 000 Litres    Range 127.3 billion km   (147 days at full power)

Bouclier Actif AM 16/5 (3x16)    Range 1000 km     TS: 100000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Thales DET 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
Thales DEM 900 (1)     Sensitivity 900     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  900m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 0.5% of normal

ECM 100

Strike Group
10x Ch Vautour H Chasseur Leger   Speed: 60000 km/s    Size: 10
10x Ch Vautour M Chasseur Leger   Speed: 60000 km/s    Size: 10
10x Ch Vautour L Chasseur Laser   Speed: 60000 km/s    Size: 10

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
or Nike command vessel.

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S Nike class Batiment de commandement de zone    50 000 tons     1621 Crew     17538 BP      TCS 5  TH 10000  EM 0
10000 km/s     Armour 9-120     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1500/1500/0/0     Damage Control Rating 256     PPV 0
Maint Life 11.09 Years     MSP 53655    AFR 88%    IFR 1.2%    1YR 800    5YR 11996    Max Repair 2500 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 60 months    Flight Crew Berths 115   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 4000 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Battalion    Cargo Handling Multiplier 40   

Snecma 5000/50 (2)    Power 5000    Fuel Use 5%    Signature 5000    Exp 10%
Fuel Capacity 10 015 000 Litres    Range 721.1 billion km   (834 days at full power)

Bouclier Actif AM 16/5 (5x16)    Range 1000 km     TS: 100000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Thales DET 1500 (1)     Sensitivity 1500     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1500m km
Thales DEM 1500 (1)     Sensitivity 1500     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  1500m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 0.5% of normal

ECM 100

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

[Bartimeus]

Tiens, j'ai cru voir un Bob Terrius (George Pompidou, are you serious ? )

For me, your ships are to big.

[Jorgen_CAB]

I have not studied them in detail but I don't like your huge Thermal values (too easy to spot in passives) and they have much too short maintenance cycles and perhaps a little too much fuel in some of them. You seem to use Supply bays instead of Engineering bays in many designs... there are no point in using Supply bays in a ship other than a Tender or dedicated support ship. As is you fleet with eat supply like crazy...

I don't see much of a problem with large ships at this tech level of you build them smart, bigger ships is always more efficient in combat than a smaller ship but harder to run with stealth.

But your tech level are so high that I doubt there are anything in the game that could ever oppose you...