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Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: May 20, 2008, 01:33:59 PM »

I have decided to completely redo the timeline, make it a bit more realistic. Any comments on the new beginning would be greatly appreciated.  :D



Cheers, ??rgr?mr
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: April 05, 2008, 07:38:26 PM »

Added the section of the Timeline where the Romans tangle with the Norse, and the Norse discovery of North America.

Comments and critiques are heartily welcomed.  :D



Cheers,  ??rgr?mr
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 28, 2007, 08:02:03 AM »

Yeah the tech angle is the sticking point. The Romans were adapters of technology par exellance, but were not great scientists themselves. So I am probably going to have to make tech breakthroughs due to adaptation of current tech, accidental, or a discovery by a group like the cult of Hermes Trimesgustes, known to the Egyptians as the cult of Thoth.

Most likely I will use a combination of all three till the Scientific Principle is discovered.  :D

Added a huge section about a Roman reform of their army in 270 A.D.




Cheers,
Posted by: kdstubbs
« on: September 27, 2007, 07:32:23 PM »

The suppression of Islam now allows you to occupy the entire Indian Ocean Carrying Trade, especially after you adopt the Long Ship.  Furthermore it will allow you to move south to circum-navigate Africa, and to colonize centuries earlier than the Bantu migrations into southern Africa.  Once you've established Provinces at Cape Town and along the east african litoral, you own the eastern coast.  Now you can begin to move deeper into Africa, occupying the Song-hi, Mali and other empires of the Niger River Valley.  These empires rivaled Rome in size and in military strength--just never developed written records, and termites prevented the preservation of celluloid product for more than a few decades.  Once you've linked up Western Africa, East Africa, and the Med, you have closed the loop.  

Problem is you need to develop Railroads, steam power, and other technologies that will allow you to link up all of the Empire.
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 27, 2007, 06:51:20 PM »

Added the conquest of the lower Arabian Penninsula to the timeline. In the 260's A.D.  :D
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 26, 2007, 09:57:57 PM »

Added Roma's handling of the rise of the Muslims. 628 A.D. Check it out.  :D



Cheers,
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 16, 2007, 03:50:55 PM »

Added the Roman opportunistic diplomatic maneuvering that changes forever the history of China and at the same time safeguarding their northern flank. Check it out, between 248 and 252 AD.  :wink:



Cheers,
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 16, 2007, 08:21:32 AM »

Steve, thanks for the tip. I will look into getting it.  :D



Cheers,
Posted by: Steve Walmsley
« on: September 16, 2007, 07:01:58 AM »

Quote from: "kdstubbs"
Get a copy of the Time's Historical Atlas, it has sufficient detail and great graphics to allow you to build your history.  One thing you need to do is to have the Romans advance to the Vistula and Oder Rivers in Central Europe and to the Dneiper in the Ukraine.  They must seize and hold the Carpathian Mountain Passes, and secure the Dobruga gap between the Carpathian Mountains and the Black Sea coast near the mouth of the Danube. Once they secure the Vistula Carpathians Gap in the North etc., they have secured access to the peninsula of Evropa, to use the Latin.  Then you face the Huns, Avars, Kazakhs, etc., driving east into the Volga basin and on to the Urals gives you the vast open plains of Russia.  the Ural Caspian Gap is the main danager geographically.

I have the Times Atlas of European History and it is a useful book. Another useful (and cheaper :)) reference work is the Atlas of World History published by Dorling Kindersley and you can probably pick it up for $15 on amazon.com.

Steve
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 15, 2007, 04:58:51 PM »

Kevin, That was the basic plan. And the Orbis Sericum, Chinese Sphere, is the last place to fall to the Imperium. So it lasts up to just after the Romans discover space flight and a REALLY nasty surprise on the darkside of the moon!  :D




Cheers,
Posted by: kdstubbs
« on: September 15, 2007, 03:37:29 PM »

I would think the conquest of India would lead to the capture of Sri Lanka, by the way, and as you most certainly know, the Romans knew the Indian subcontinent's geography.  One Travel Map preserved from Rome shows the world from Hadrian's wall to Sri Lanka, to the Crimea, and to southern Egypt into the Sudan.  They understood geography but did not plot their maps using spherical coordinates.  The conquest of India should lead to movement into Burma, Thailand, Southeast asia, and on to Indonesia and Australia.  Once you conquer the sub continent you have a vast territory that will eventually bring you in contact with Tang and Shia China.  Then the Ming period, and gunpowder warfare with a very professional army.  Love to see your discussion of the conquest.  

Kevin
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 15, 2007, 03:17:38 PM »

Quote from: "crucis"
I thought that it looked a little off seeing that Rome founded in 753 AD, not 753 BC or -753 AD.

I take it in this Roman history that Jesus is little more than a historical footnote.  :D

The Second major POD is the pardon of Germanicus.

The third and most critical POD is the discovery of Fulminata, gunpowder,  in 98 AD. That came about due to a Roman trying to find the secret of Vulcan after the eruption of Vesuvius in the hopes of preventing any more Pompeii's or Herculanium's.   :D
Posted by: crucis
« on: September 15, 2007, 02:26:16 PM »

I thought that it looked a little off seeing that Rome founded in 753 AD, not 753 BC or -753 AD.

I take it in this Roman history that Jesus is little more than a historical footnote.  ;)  (Not a criticism, just an observation...)





BTW, where does your historical divergence begin?
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 15, 2007, 02:11:41 PM »

Corrected the mistake pointed out by Crucis, thanks dude.  :D




Cheers,
Posted by: Þórgrímr
« on: September 15, 2007, 02:04:50 PM »

Quote from: "crucis"
??rgr?mr, Shouldn't the AD dates from the founding of Rome up until "758 6 Rebellion in Pannonia" have negative AD years?  For example, shouldn't the Founding of Rome be in -753 AD, not 753 AD?


D'OH!  :D




 Cheers, ??rgr?mr