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Posted by: MagusXIX
« on: July 27, 2013, 11:25:00 PM »

Bad guys?  Bad for which quality of what/who, exactly?  The sun is bad for my smooth complexion.  In this case, the Spanish are bad for ... ???

Anyway, I like the ship design.  Get close, fast, and hit hard!
Posted by: symon
« on: July 26, 2013, 08:47:37 AM »

Perhaps Steve could introduce spanish space pirates and give them a secret pirate base on Pluto.

But it's:

Spanish Galleons. (Hiss!)
English Pirates. (Hoorah!)

Ha Ha! (Bump, bump, bump).
Or something like that IIRC.
Posted by: UnLimiTeD
« on: July 17, 2013, 05:31:53 AM »

Well, given that he still occasionally gets bug reports based on really off tactics, I guess there's other people that also exhibit a bit of creativity.
Though boarding tactics are pretty straight forward, I don't think they lend themselves to a low resource approach in Aurora.
Posted by: joeclark77
« on: July 16, 2013, 02:26:52 PM »

That's possible, too.  Doesn't have to be associated with Spain.

I just think it would be really interesting to see how Steve would manage a military based on boarding tactics -- how he'd design the ships, what tactics he'd use, and so forth.  He knows the game better than anyone and he always gives good information in these fiction threads.  If he were to create a pirate faction, he could try out some of these tactics without throwing Spain into a war that will likely destroy them, and that would give us a chance to see the tactics evolve.
Posted by: Icecoon
« on: July 16, 2013, 02:13:12 PM »

Why to assign the to the Spanish? You can create a separate pirate "mini-empire" in alliance with them using SM. Well, interresting idea. :)
Posted by: UnLimiTeD
« on: July 16, 2013, 01:42:02 PM »

Also the game will run in bloody minute increments as long as something is moving in and out of sensor range.
What would stop any other power from sending a few ships there to beat them up?
Posted by: joeclark77
« on: July 16, 2013, 01:36:25 PM »

Right, the game will identify them, but Steve's the spacemaster running all the empires.  He can choose to roleplay the other empires reacting to them as if they are unaffiliated space pirates.  As far as I know the only consequence of having Spain as "hostile" is that your PD will automatically fire on their missiles.  But the Spanish aren't missile users.
Posted by: Charlie Beeler
« on: July 16, 2013, 11:59:37 AM »

Joe, the problem with that is that the program will automatically identify them correctly.  As things stand, "fog of war" is not a game factor. 

We loosely discussed a graduated identification system at a tactical level a few years back.  It will take a modest amount of database changes before it can be coded.  Until Steve thinks it is worth pursuing it's on a backburner.
Posted by: joeclark77
« on: July 16, 2013, 11:42:38 AM »

Perhaps Steve could introduce spanish space pirates and give them a secret pirate base on Pluto.  The game would treat them as Spanish, but he could role-play them as being independent entities with maybe an independent GFTF and an independent shipyard, so that the other powers wouldn't respond to their piracy with war against Spain.
Posted by: Culise
« on: July 16, 2013, 10:04:22 AM »

Quote from: joeclark77 link=topic=6272.   msg64191#msg64191 date=1373936693
I'm not sure they even need the technology.     The real win would be capturing an alien homeworld with its wealth, industry, shipyards, etc.   

I thought it was pretty clear that the French were the bad guys in this scenario!  I guess it goes to show we all have different points of view on these things.   
Aye, and I thought the Japanese would be the real big baddies biding their time in the shadows, while the cruel French, dogmatic Spanish, righteous Brits, and ambiguous Germans bleed each other white.     Always interesting to see these different takes. 
Posted by: Morrigi192
« on: July 16, 2013, 07:44:05 AM »

Hmm, maybe the Spanish will turn into the Imperium of Man if they get anywhere.  .  .   They just need to adopt more latin and acquire SPESS MEHREENS capable of Muhltiple, Simuln-tehneous and Devashtehting DEFENSIVE DEEP STRIKES!

+1 support for Spain.
Posted by: joeclark77
« on: July 15, 2013, 08:04:53 PM »

As a general rule I don't root for the bad guys, who the Spanish kinda seem to be in this scenario. That said, it would be nice to see a major turnaround in one of these games, where say Spain goes forth as the little guy, defeats the precursors and maybe conquers and converts an alien species or two, then uses the advanced alien tech they've obtained to demolish the French and Japanese navies when they try to interfere :)

I'm not sure they even need the technology.  The real win would be capturing an alien homeworld with its wealth, industry, shipyards, etc.

I thought it was pretty clear that the French were the bad guys in this scenario!  I guess it goes to show we all have different points of view on these things.
Posted by: Bremen
« on: July 15, 2013, 06:27:24 PM »

I'm not sure it wouldn't go the other way.  The true Church would remain in Rome and endure the French, recognizing that the French and Italian people are largely faithful even if their rulers are not.  The "Spanish Church" might presume itself more Catholic than the Pope, ignore his appeals for peace, and start treating this Cardinal Ximénez fellow as an unofficial antipope.

For my sake, of course, I hope Steve will keep the Spanish powers authentically Catholic, name the stars after saints, and kick ass in the first interstellar Crusade.  More fun that way.  I hope he's given the knightly orders a few boosts in ground force combat strength and we'll see them playing a major part in the story.  Maybe the Spanish will specialize in boarding tactics?

As a general rule I don't root for the bad guys, who the Spanish kinda seem to be in this scenario. That said, it would be nice to see a major turnaround in one of these games, where say Spain goes forth as the little guy, defeats the precursors and maybe conquers and converts an alien species or two, then uses the advanced alien tech they've obtained to demolish the French and Japanese navies when they try to interfere :)
Posted by: joeclark77
« on: July 15, 2013, 05:04:33 PM »

I'm not sure it wouldn't go the other way.  The true Church would remain in Rome and endure the French, recognizing that the French and Italian people are largely faithful even if their rulers are not.  The "Spanish Church" might presume itself more Catholic than the Pope, ignore his appeals for peace, and start treating this Cardinal Ximénez fellow as an unofficial antipope.

For my sake, of course, I hope Steve will keep the Spanish powers authentically Catholic, name the stars after saints, and kick ass in the first interstellar Crusade.  More fun that way.  I hope he's given the knightly orders a few boosts in ground force combat strength and we'll see them playing a major part in the story.  Maybe the Spanish will specialize in boarding tactics?
Posted by: Mel Vixen
« on: July 15, 2013, 04:27:27 PM »

Actualy i could be see a two pope solution springing up. Thus Spain has its catholic pope and the French have theyr own Pope. The church would split along with it with the more conservative parts of the religious regime going to Spain while the progressive ones go to France or convert to lutheran-evangelism.

For the Spanish government this would mean more power in the church and less outside influence, while the french would have the religious support for the new emperor.