What's going on in your empire/planet/battlefield?

[boggo2300]

But they are not. Star Trek torpedoes are pathetically short range, probably even shorter than Aurora's CIWS ..

huh?  Star Trek photon torpedoes have massive ranges,  you need to remember ships in Star Trek are travelling massively faster than light

ie in real Star Trek warp 3 is 27 times c
in next gen warp 3 is 39 times c

at those kinds of speed it doesn't take long to exceed any range Aurora could even calculate

[Herodotus4]

They're really neat. They do have a kind of Aurora-ish vibe to them, although they are newtonian, which is very cool.

If you mean starfire then actually newtonian phsics only apply when a ship is shot up (like when in the shiva option when the female pilot main character is drifting around and runs into the male human admiral main character) but the actual drives are non newtonian. With the possible exception of fighters.

[Sheb]

Sorry, I meant the Honorverse, I've never read Starfire.

[Bughunter]

Never read the books before, but recently bought Crusade by David Weber & Steve White. Looking forward to some Auroraish SF.

[AL]

I've read some of the Starfire series from the "Stars at War" omnibus thing, and now I can't seem find #5 onwards which was quite annoying. But that was about a year or so ago now so I've quite literally lost the plot. But I do highly recommend the series, you can really see the Starfire roots of Aurora from those books.

[sloanjh]

  and used as the basis for Honor Harrington until he decided to go silly with it

Um actually it's the Starfire books (Insurrection, Crusade, In Death Ground, The Shiva Option, along with Steve White's follow-on series) that are based on Starfire.  HH is completely different techno-babble physics.

Interestingly enough, I just started re-reading On Basilisk Station last night.  Haven't done a full lap through the Honorverse in a few years....

John

[GodEmperor]

huh?  Star Trek photon torpedoes have massive ranges,  you need to remember ships in Star Trek are travelling massively faster than light

ie in real Star Trek warp 3 is 27 times c
in next gen warp 3 is 39 times c

at those kinds of speed it doesn't take long to exceed any range Aurora could even calculate

No they are not.
Look for the example, at the end scene from ST First Contact - fake defector Data launches torps at the Phoenix WHO IS IN THE VISUAL RANGE and it still takes them like 10 seconds to impact ( or rather miss it ). They are nowhere near FTL speeds, barring those fired during warp pursuit by adm Marcus ( aka best Starfleet admiral ever ) at the Enterprise in "Into the Darkness". .
And i wont even mention other things wrong with ST franchise and boy, that is a looooong list.

[Herodotus4]

Sorry, I meant the Honorverse, I've never read Starfire.

In that case I agree, the margret thatcher thing is getting old. Also the tech advantage is getting silly, the only way manticore could have been slowed down as of war of honor would be some hyperphysics shenanigans with old SDs.

[GodEmperor]

That old "Courage Wolf Aurora 4x joke/meme" comes to live ....

[iceball3]

That old "Courage Wolf Aurora 4x joke/meme" comes to live ....

I got another one!

[boggo2300]

No they are not.
Look for the example, at the end scene from ST First Contact - fake defector Data launches torps at the Phoenix WHO IS IN THE VISUAL RANGE and it still takes them like 10 seconds to impact ( or rather miss it ). They are nowhere near FTL speeds, barring those fired during warp pursuit by adm Marcus ( aka best Starfleet admiral ever ) at the Enterprise in "Into the Darkness". .
And i wont even mention other things wrong with ST franchise and boy, that is a looooong list.

Journey to Babel has them being attacked by an Orion raider travelling at Warp 9...
admittedly no Photons are used,  but they were rarely used before the movies

[boggo2300]

Um actually it's the Starfire books (Insurrection, Crusade, In Death Ground, The Shiva Option, along with Steve White's follow-on series) that are based on Starfire.  HH is completely different techno-babble physics.

Interestingly enough, I just started re-reading On Basilisk Station last night.  Haven't done a full lap through the Honorverse in a few years....

John

The battles in the first few books were played out to get some grit in them in a modified version of his version of Starfire (3rd) from what I can remember him saying,  though that was a long time ago,  and after the fourth of those books I try very hard to never think about them anymore

[illrede]

In that case I agree, the margret thatcher thing is getting old. Also the tech advantage is getting silly, the only way manticore could have been slowed down as of war of honor would be some hyperphysics shenanigans with old SDs.

If Tommy Theisman just had a third task force held in reserve during Beatrice-Bravo...

As it was, Manticore had to earn it.

[Viridia]

I've finally rebooted my Honorverse game. Decided to go big or go home, even if my designs aren't quite meeting Weber's million tons or more vessels and the armaments aren't quite matching what you'd see in one of the Jayne's books he's had published;

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Bastion class Superdreadnought    36 000 tons     972 Crew     6074.4 BP      TCS 720  TH 2040  EM 300
2833 km/s     Armour 8-97     Shields 10-300     Sensors 44/44/0/0     Damage Control Rating 11     PPV 210.16
Maint Life 0.01 Years     MSP 105    AFR 10368%    IFR 144%    1YR 9145    5YR 137182    Max Repair 257 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Flight Crew Berths 3   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 1000 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Battalion    Magazine 1936   

Anderson-Hilton 204 EP Magneto-plasma Drive (10)    Power 204    Fuel Use 33.97%    Signature 204    Exp 8%
Fuel Capacity 1 000 000 Litres    Range 14.7 billion km   (60 days at full power)
Delta R300/360 Sidewall (4)   Total Fuel Cost  60 Litres per hour  (1 440 per day)

SD-Grade 20cm C4 Ultraviolet Laser (10)    Range 256 000km     TS: 4000 km/s     Power 10-4     RM 4    ROF 15        10 10 10 10 8 6 5 5 4 4
Quad PD Laser Emitter Turret (6x12)    Range 30 000km     TS: 10000 km/s     Power 0-0     RM 3    ROF 5        1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
SD-Grade Fire Control S02 128-4000 H40 (2)    Max Range: 256 000 km   TS: 4000 km/s     96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
PD Fire Control S01 32-8000 H40 (3)    Max Range: 64 000 km   TS: 8000 km/s     84 69 53 37 22 6 0 0 0 0
Capital-Grade Stellarator Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1.25 (2)     Total Power Output 60    Armour 0    Exp 20%

Wells-Pugh Mk2 Countermissile Launcher (8)    Missile Size 2    Rate of Fire 15
Edwards-Potter Mk15-4 Launcher (8)    Missile Size 15    Rate of Fire 115
Counter-Missile Missile Fire Control FC27-R1 (40%) (1)     Range 27.7m km    Resolution 1
SD-Grade Missile Fire Control FC686-R200 (40%) (2)     Range 686.0m km    Resolution 200
Mk15A Missile (104)  Speed: 14 400 km/s   End: 738.2m    Range: 637.8m km   WH: 20    Size: 15    TH: 67/40/20
MK2 Counter-Missile (188)  Speed: 32 000 km/s   End: 5.4m    Range: 10.4m km   WH: 1    Size: 2    TH: 309/185/92

Capital-Grade Active Search Sensor MR130-R200 (40%) (1)     GPS 16800     Range 130.7m km    Resolution 200
Anti-Missile Sensor MR2-R1 (40%) (1)     GPS 21     Range 2.3m km    MCR 252k km    Resolution 1
Capital-Grade Thermal Sensor (1)     Sensitivity 44     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  44m km
Capital-Grade EM Detection Sensor (1)     Sensitivity 44     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  44m km

ECM 20

Strike Group
1x Series-Alpha Pinnace   Speed: 7692 km/s    Size: 2.34
Reckon I'll have to look at the doubling scheme I was trying out on my LotGH game. :S

[Sheb]

You forgot your maintenance life.