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Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« on: March 10, 2016, 02:24:24 AM »
Terran Kindom February 2066

The Carriers

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Long Island - MkII class Escort Carrier    44 100 tons     728 Crew     16350.2 BP      TCS 882  TH 2870.4  EM 0
13560 km/s     Armour 10-111     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 41     PPV 0
Maint Life 5.65 Years     MSP 9500    AFR 379%    IFR 5.3%    1YR 502    5YR 7537    Max Repair 520 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 24 months    Flight Crew Berths 46   
Hangar Deck Capacity 5625 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Company    Magazine 2410    Cargo Handling Multiplier 40   

Akhtar Research Inc 520 EP Solid Core AM Drive (23)    Power 520    Fuel Use 52.03%    Signature 124.8    Exp 13%
Fuel Capacity 10 250 000 Litres    Range 80.4 billion km   (68 days at full power)

Diagne-Fabre Incorporated CIWS-320 (4x10)    Range 1000 km     TS: 32000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
ASM Starfire (602)  Speed: 52 300 km/s   End: 112m    Range: 351.6m km   WH: 16    Size: 3.99    TH: 383/230/115

ECM 40

Strike Group
1x Cobra-S Fighter   Speed: 27649 km/s    Size: 4.34
24x Cobra Fighter   Speed: 27027 km/s    Size: 4.44

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Nimitz - MkII class Heavy Carrier    100 000 tons     1492 Crew     30450.6 BP      TCS 500  TH 4992  EM 2400
10400 km/s     Armour 11-191     Shields 80-300     Sensors 48/48/0/0     Damage Control Rating 90     PPV 0
Maint Life 2.54 Years     MSP 13322    AFR 1142%    IFR 15.9%    1YR 2882    5YR 43227    Max Repair 520 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 48 months    Flight Crew Berths 15   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 20000 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Battalion    Magazine 964    Cargo Handling Multiplier 40   

Akhtar Research Inc 520 EP Solid Core AM Drive (40)    Power 520    Fuel Use 52.03%    Signature 124.8    Exp 13%
Fuel Capacity 30 250 000 Litres    Range 104.7 billion km   (116 days at full power)
Lerma-Nava Theta R300/288 Shields (20)   Total Fuel Cost  240 Litres per hour  (5 760 per day)

Diagne-Fabre Incorporated CIWS-320 (10x10)    Range 1000 km     TS: 32000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
ASM Thunder (241)  Speed: 81 700 km/s   End: 0.6m    Range: 3.2m km   WH: 36    Size: 3.995    TH: 381/228/114

Thermal Sensor TH6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
EM Detection Sensor EM6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 25% of normal

ECM 40

Strike Group
45x Raptor Fighter-bomber   Speed: 29126 km/s    Size: 8.24



The Terran carrier fighters are as follows.

Main fighter: Cobra and the fighter bomber Raptor, my Cobras are now being escorted by Cobra-S to give them sensor coverage,  our carriers were supposed to give them a target but recent battles have been hard on the carriers, 2 CVEs has been lost, CVAs and the rest of my CVEs have been upgraded to a new design without a sensor. The solution was to build a sensor fighter based on the Cobra, the Cobra - S have also redesigned with 10 AMMs instead of ASMs, its sensor is short ranged but so far no one has ever attacked our fighters over 10Mkm.

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Cobra class Fighter    222 tons     1 Crew     237.2 BP      TCS 4.44  TH 28.8  EM 0
27027 km/s     Armour 1-3     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 1.8
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 44%    IFR 0.6%    1YR 13    5YR 189    Max Repair 120 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 3   
Magazine 12   

Sharp Marine Fighter Engine SCAM (1)    Power 120    Fuel Use 617.3%    Signature 28.8    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 20 000 Litres    Range 2.6 billion km   (26 hours at full power)

Size 4 Box Launcher (3)    Missile Size 4    Hangar Reload 30 minutes    MF Reload 5 hours
Stokes International FIghter Missile Suite (1)     Range 240.0m km    Resolution 100
ASM Starfire (3)  Speed: 52 300 km/s   End: 112m    Range: 351.6m km   WH: 16    Size: 3.99    TH: 383/230/115

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Cobra-S class Fighter    217 tons     1 Crew     514 BP      TCS 4.34  TH 28.8  EM 0
27649 km/s     Armour 1-3     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 1.5
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 43%    IFR 0.6%    1YR 14    5YR 206    Max Repair 315 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 3   
Magazine 10   

Sharp Marine Fighter Engine SCAM (1)    Power 120    Fuel Use 617.3%    Signature 28.8    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 20 000 Litres    Range 2.7 billion km   (26 hours at full power)

Long Aerospace Industries Size 1 Box Launcher (10)    Missile Size 1    Hangar Reload 7.5 minutes    MF Reload 1.2 hours
Zhau-Zhong FTR Aegis Missile Fire Control FC15-R1 (40%) (1)     Range 15.1m km    Resolution 1
AMM Lightning (10)  Speed: 177 600 km/s   End: 1.2m    Range: 13m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 592/355/177

Parent -Gomis Active Search Sensor MR25-R1 (40%) (1)     GPS 180     Range 25.2m km    MCR 2.7m km    Resolution 1

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Raptor class Fighter-bomber    435 tons     3 Crew     355.2 BP      TCS 8.7  TH 57.6  EM 0
27586 km/s     Armour 2-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4.6
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 87%    IFR 1.2%    1YR 21    5YR 309    Max Repair 120 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 40   
Magazine 4   

Sharp Marine Fighter Engine SCAM (2)    Power 120    Fuel Use 617.3%    Signature 28.8    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 20 000 Litres    Range 1.3 billion km   (13 hours at full power)

Manning Foundation Gauss Cannon R5-17 (4x5)    Range 50 000km     TS: 27586 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 17%     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Ahmed-Brooks Fire Control S00.5 40-5000 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 80 000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     88 75 62 50 38 25 12 0 0 0

Size 4 Box Launcher (1)    Missile Size 4    Hangar Reload 30 minutes    MF Reload 5 hours
Donnelly Systems Fighter Missile Suite (1)     Range 24.0m km    Resolution 100
ASM Thunder (1)  Speed: 81 700 km/s   End: 0.6m    Range: 3.2m km   WH: 36    Size: 3.995    TH: 381/228/114

Long Technology Fighter Sensor (1)     GPS 1000     Range 8.0m km    Resolution 100



Now we are planning to replace or increase our fighter wings with a new fighter, sofar 3 proposal have been looked at, F-27 Anaconda, the laser armed or the Anti Fighter Missile (AFM) armed F-28 Interceptor

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F-27 Anaconda class Heavy Fighter    497 tons     4 Crew     583.8 BP      TCS 9.94  TH 57.6  EM 0
24144 km/s     Armour 1-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4.6
Maint Life 3.78 Years     MSP 73    AFR 19%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 8    5YR 120    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 0   
Magazine 4   

Lenoir-Bonald Heavy Fighter SCAM Drive (1)    Power 240    Fuel Use 381.92%    Signature 57.6    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 20 000 Litres    Range 1.9 billion km   (21 hours at full power)

Manning Foundation Gauss Cannon R5-17 (4x5)    Range 50 000km     TS: 24144 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 17%     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Ahmed-Brooks Fire Control S00.5 40-5000 (FTR) (4)    Max Range: 80 000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     88 75 62 50 38 25 12 0 0 0

Long Aerospace Industries Size 1 Box Launcher (4)    Missile Size 1    Hangar Reload 7.5 minutes    MF Reload 1.2 hours
Zhao-Xue Missile Fire Control FC37-R1 (40%) (1)     Range 37.8m km    Resolution 1
AMM Lightning (10)  Speed: 177 600 km/s   End: 1.2m    Range: 13m km   WH: 1    Size: 1    TH: 592/355/177

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F-28 Interceptor - Laser class Heavy Fighter    500 tons     5 Crew     633 BP      TCS 10  TH 115.2  EM 0
48000 km/s     Armour 2-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4
Maint Life 2.55 Years     MSP 79    AFR 20%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 17    5YR 255    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 5   

Lenoir-Bonald Heavy Fighter SCAM Drive (2)    Power 240    Fuel Use 381.92%    Signature 57.6    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 25 000 Litres    Range 2.4 billion km   (13 hours at full power)

Mascareñas Ordnance Defence Laser (1)    Range 80 000km     TS: 48000 km/s     Power 6-6     RM 5    ROF 5        6 6 6 6 6 5 4 3 0 0
Ahmed-Brooks Fire Control S00.5 40-5000 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 80 000 km   TS: 20000 km/s     88 75 62 50 38 25 12 0 0 0
Brun  International Gas-core Anti-matter Power Plant Technology PB-1 (1)     Total Power Output 6    Armour 0    Exp 5%

Long Technology Fighter Sensor (1)     GPS 1000     Range 8.0m km    Resolution 100

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F-28 Interceptor - Missile class Heavy Fighter    432 tons     3 Crew     649.4 BP      TCS 8.64  TH 115.2  EM 0
55555 km/s     Armour 2-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 3
Maint Life 5.57 Years     MSP 94    AFR 14%    IFR 0.2%    1YR 5    5YR 77    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.1 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 20   

Lenoir-Bonald Heavy Fighter SCAM Drive (2)    Power 240    Fuel Use 381.92%    Signature 57.6    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 35 000 Litres    Range 3.8 billion km   (19 hours at full power)

Long Aerospace Industries Size 1 Box Launcher (20)    Missile Size 1    Hangar Reload 7.5 minutes    MF Reload 1.2 hours
Zhau-Zhong FTR Aegis Missile Fire Control FC15-R1 (40%) (2)     Range 15.1m km    Resolution 1
AFM Starlance (20)  Speed: 88 800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 10.4m km   WH: 3    Size: 1    TH: 888/532/266

Long Technology Fighter Sensor (1)     GPS 1000     Range 8.0m km    Resolution 100

The F-27 is slow, but well armed, can engage 5 different targets and more armoured than than the F-28s
The laser armed fighter is the heaviest so far, and only have one laser canon, its range are longer than the Cobras and hit a lot harder when it hits.
The missile variant has been given 20 of the new AMFs and 2 fire controls, they also can double as missile defence in times of need.

A proposed Nimitz MkII with F-27 fighters.

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Nimitz - MkII - F-27 class Heavy Carrier    99 950 tons     1492 Crew     30488.4 BP      TCS 499.75  TH 4992  EM 2400
10405 km/s     Armour 11-191     Shields 80-300     Sensors 48/48/0/0     Damage Control Rating 90     PPV 0
Maint Life 2.48 Years     MSP 13345    AFR 1141%    IFR 15.9%    1YR 3009    5YR 45135    Max Repair 520 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 48 months    Flight Crew Berths 0   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 20000 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Battalion    Magazine 964    Cargo Handling Multiplier 40   

Akhtar Research Inc 520 EP Solid Core AM Drive (40)    Power 520    Fuel Use 52.03%    Signature 124.8    Exp 13%
Fuel Capacity 30 250 000 Litres    Range 104.7 billion km   (116 days at full power)
Lerma-Nava Theta R300/288 Shields (20)   Total Fuel Cost  240 Litres per hour  (5 760 per day)

Diagne-Fabre Incorporated CIWS-320 (10x10)    Range 1000 km     TS: 32000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
AFM Starlance (482)  Speed: 88 800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 10.4m km   WH: 3    Size: 1    TH: 888/532/266

Thermal Sensor TH6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
EM Detection Sensor EM6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 25% of normal

ECM 60

Strike Group
40x F-27 Anaconda Heavy Fighter   Speed: 24144 km/s    Size: 9.94

The same with F-28 Laser

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Nimitz - MkII - F-28 Laser class Heavy Carrier    98 400 tons     1610 Crew     30232 BP      TCS 492  TH 4992  EM 2400
10569 km/s     Armour 11-189     Shields 80-300     Sensors 48/48/0/0     Damage Control Rating 130     PPV 0
Maint Life 4.37 Years     MSP 21124    AFR 704%    IFR 9.8%    1YR 1780    5YR 26695    Max Repair 520 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 48 months    Flight Crew Berths 1   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 20000 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Battalion    Cargo Handling Multiplier 40   

Akhtar Research Inc 520 EP Solid Core AM Drive (40)    Power 520    Fuel Use 52.03%    Signature 124.8    Exp 13%
Fuel Capacity 30 250 000 Litres    Range 106.4 billion km   (116 days at full power)
Lerma-Nava Theta R300/288 Shields (20)   Total Fuel Cost  240 Litres per hour  (5 760 per day)

Diagne-Fabre Incorporated CIWS-320 (10x10)    Range 1000 km     TS: 32000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
Thermal Sensor TH6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
EM Detection Sensor EM6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 25% of normal

ECM 60

Strike Group
40x F-28 Interceptor - Laser Heavy Fighter   Speed: 48000 km/s    Size: 10

The last Nimitz has to be enlarged 5000 tons to give every fighter 3 reloads, a total of 2760 missiles.

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Nimitz - MkII - F-28 Missile - Copy class Heavy Carrier    105 050 tons     1565 Crew     30935 BP      TCS 525.25  TH 4992  EM 2400
9900 km/s     Armour 11-198     Shields 80-300     Sensors 48/48/0/0     Damage Control Rating 103     PPV 0
Maint Life 2.73 Years     MSP 15277    AFR 1063%    IFR 14.8%    1YR 2947    5YR 44206    Max Repair 520 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 48 months    Flight Crew Berths 0   
Flag Bridge    Hangar Deck Capacity 20000 tons     Troop Capacity: 1 Battalion    Magazine 2892    Cargo Handling Multiplier 40   

Akhtar Research Inc 520 EP Solid Core AM Drive (40)    Power 520    Fuel Use 52.03%    Signature 124.8    Exp 13%
Fuel Capacity 30 250 000 Litres    Range 99.6 billion km   (116 days at full power)
Lerma-Nava Theta R300/288 Shields (20)   Total Fuel Cost  240 Litres per hour  (5 760 per day)

Diagne-Fabre Incorporated CIWS-320 (10x10)    Range 1000 km     TS: 32000 km/s     ROF 5       Base 50% To Hit
AFM Starlance (2651)  Speed: 88 800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 10.4m km   WH: 3    Size: 1    TH: 888/532/266

Thermal Sensor TH6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
EM Detection Sensor EM6-48 (1)     Sensitivity 48     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  48m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 25% of normal

ECM 60

Strike Group
46x F-28 Interceptor - Missile Heavy Fighter   Speed: 55555 km/s    Size: 8.64

So in the end we will probobly be going with the F-27, alot more flexible and it still is about 13000km/s faster than any known enemy fighters as well as probobly the best figter killer in the Universe ;)

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 03:18:24 PM »
I maybe New here, but it would appear that your max repair for your heavy fighters is less than your total MSP, meaning you won't be able to repair as many damaged modules, so it would be wise to replace the engineering spaces with something more "useful". . . 
 

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 06:15:25 PM »
I'm confused what's going on with the F-27.  Unless those are excess bogus missiles, it looks like you have 4 box launchers with a magazine containing 6 more missiles.   IMO, you'd be better off with more box launchers instead.  Also, in practice you're probably better off with 1 beam fire control;  a fighter simply can't carry enough beam firepower for it to be worth engaging more than one target. 

 

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 06:24:47 PM »
Quote from: TheDeadlyShoe link=topic=8416. msg87828#msg87828 date=1457655325
I'm confused what's going on with the F-27.   Unless those are excess bogus missiles, it looks like you have 4 box launchers with a magazine containing 6 more missiles.    IMO, you'd be better off with more box launchers instead.   Also, in practice you're probably better off with 1 beam fire control;  a fighter simply can't carry enough beam firepower for it to be worth engaging more than one target. 

I agree on the BFCs, only thing you'd get more than one of would be gauss and I don't believe that'd be damaging enough in a single tick to really be worth splitting.

On the missiles however, I suspect he previously had more launchers on it or something as he's got 10 missiles in a size 4 magazine.
 

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 06:51:11 PM »
In terms of the F-27, since a box launcher can only be reloaded at a hanger deck or maintenance facility isn't it better to put the magazines on the carrier and have none on the fighter.
 

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2016, 06:54:48 PM »
Quote from: chokuto link=topic=8416. msg87831#msg87831 date=1457657471
In terms of the F-27, since a box launcher can only be reloaded at a hanger deck or maintenance facility isn't it better to put the magazines on the carrier and have none on the fighter.

The only magazines on it at this time are those from the launchers themselves. (Basically, loaded missiles are treated exactly the same as ones in magazines as far as aurora is concerned. )


Edit:
And because I don't really like double posting, here's my thoughts on the OP.

Quote from: ExChairman link=topic=8416.    msg87805#msg87805 date=1457598264
.  .  .  Snip.  .  . 

Other notes (Writing these as I see stuff, so apologies about fragmented thoughts):

Long Island: Listed as carrying 1 Cobra-S, but no ammo for it. Also, I'd personally run with 2 sensor boats just for a bit of redundancy.

Raptor: will need escorts against any missile ship that's not been disabled. 8m is well within mid-tier AMM sensors, so it's almost certain to come under fire before it can offload.
And now I see that your sensor and FC don't agree, which isn't too bad considering the lack of ECCM but personally I'd still push out to the 24m from the FC as that's outside of most AMM ranges. Unless you're using them to take the beating of AMMs so that your missiles are more likely to hit, which I'm really not sure which way the efficiency goes. (Mostly depends on death rate for these)
Finally noticed the Gauss guns. Not sure exactly what I think about it, but it definitely would help with getting the missiles past initial AMM fire. Although, with that BFC you're likely looking at ~4% hit rate against your own missiles.

ASM Starfire: size 3,99? 0,01 Fuel will still give some effect, but I can understand it if the AGI modifiers work better at 3,99. (Numbers like that just bug me >_>)

F-27 Anaconda: just looks plain odd to me. For anti-fighter work you really don't need the extra FCs.   For AMM work you'd want it to be faster so you could get better chances against missiles speeds.   Also, the weapon type split is definitely resulting in inefficiencies, what with the need for 2 different types of FC and the differing combat endurances.
Also, the F-27 is in fact, less armoured than the F-28s.
Okay, just noticed that the Carrier for this carries the AFMs. That makes it a bit more interesting. While all of what I said stands for what's on the BP, with the AFMs it's a reasonable dual role ship, if a bit lacking in kill vs Fighters (2 internal damage in worst case vs 2 layers of armour) and a bit lacking in range vs Larger ships.
Oh, and I'd love to see what the mass of extra missiles does to some other parts of the code.

F-28 L: If you're looking for an anti-ship fighter, this would be great. Not so good for anti-fighter work. The FC is letting you use less than 1/2 your possible tracking, which means that any fighters at equal tech are going to be really hard to hit. 1/5 of the fighter is engine, which personally I tend towards 2/5 to 1/2 (resulting in speeds of ~96000+km/s, well outside of what your fighter could deal with. [Napkin math, not in-game tested])
The FC is also limiting the range on your laser meaning that it's going to end up within range of most Meson ships of FAC or larger. (Meson fighters might be another matter, but I can't remember any example ranges for them at this time)

F-28 M: FC and Sensor don't agree on Resolution. Anything of fighter size (<=10 TCS) will not be seen by the sensor until ~80,000km. Missile speed could also be an issue (see my napkin math for fighter speeds above).
Otherwise, good call on the multi FCs. Although, I might've tried 3 with only 18 launchers. ~18 effective damage per target, with fighters likely to be 1 to 2 layers of armour (4 on really heavy ones) this means ~8 internal damage against 2 layered targets. (0 for worst case against 4 layers, but with a bit of luck you're still likely to cause a lot of damage) [My personal targeting at this point would be using 2 of the FCs and leaving the third for mop-up. Which means that the third in unnecessary. Huh. ]

Carriers:
If these are likely to be working in groups instead of solo, I'd personally switch out the CWIS for turreted AMS systems. The loss in size efficiency should be more than made up for being able to bring the entire carrier group's AMS to bear on each barrage.


Final notes:
Oh, you massively out tech everything you're fighting. Okay, so most of my notes about speed aren't terribly relevant, but I'm now very surprised you left the 80k km range on the Laser. (Which probably needs a better name, I wouldn't use a 6 damage laser for anti missile work. )

And, in-case you don't have something already, a scout FAC with the best cloaking and thermal reduction you can manage is huge for being able to engage on your terms.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2016, 10:58:36 PM by Shiwanabe »
 

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2016, 07:51:42 PM »
Quote from: FrederickAlexander link=topic=8416.  msg87824#msg87824 date=1457644704
I maybe New here, but it would appear that your max repair for your heavy fighters is less than your total MSP, meaning you won't be able to repair as many damaged modules, so it would be wise to replace the engineering spaces with something more "useful".   .   .   

New or not, you're exactly right.    Considering the fighters have less than a day's worth of fuel and 3 days of crew quarters, the engineering spaces should be removed.    I suspect, given the previous designs didn't have them, the OP just forgot to delete them.

(new ship designs automatically start with bridge and engineering spaces, neither of which a fighter needs). 

Speaking of crew quarters, there's no excess crew quarters/flight crew berths on the new carriers either.    Those are going to be some cranky fighter-jocks at the end of those carriers' 4 year deployments!
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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2016, 10:42:22 PM »
Quote from: Neophyte link=topic=8416. msg87835#msg87835 date=1457661102

Speaking of crew quarters, there's no excess crew quarters/flight crew berths on the new carriers either.     Those are going to be some cranky fighter-jocks at the end of those carriers' 4 year deployments!

You could put them on Ice
 

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 01:16:56 AM »
You all are totally right about the Cobra-S, I forgot to include AMMs on the carriers :-[ In this battle I "borrowed" from my AM ships ;D This little deficiency has been corrected now.

About the F-27 its also correct that I forgot about my engineer and that it should have allot less deployment time, from the beginning the F-27 Anaconda Interceptor was to bee able to stay out much longer. About 4 FC its experimental, my Raptors have one fire control and engages one fighter each fire opportunity, having 50 Raptors and engaging 360 fighters is taking an eternity, so be able to fire at several targets would be nice.
This costs me allot of space and speed but if it works ??? it would save some time to kill those pesky fighters.
Here is the right F-27, without engineers, a bit more fuel, the right amount of missiles and a bit less deployment time.

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F-27 Anaconda MkII class Heavy Fighter    497 tons     4 Crew     827.8 BP      TCS 9.94  TH 57.6  EM 0
24144 km/s     Armour 2-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4.6
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 99%    IFR 1.4%    1YR 56    5YR 833    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.04 months    Spare Berths 1   
Magazine 4   

Lenoir-Bonald Heavy Fighter SCAM Drive (1)    Power 240    Fuel Use 381.92%    Signature 57.6    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 15 000 Litres    Range 1.4 billion km   (16 hours at full power)

Manning Foundation Gauss Cannon R5-17 (4x5)    Range 50 000km     TS: 24144 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 17%     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Eleam Incorporated Fire Control S00.5 60-10000 (FTR) (4)    Max Range: 120 000 km   TS: 40000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17

Long Aerospace Industries Size 1 Box Launcher (4)    Missile Size 1    Hangar Reload 7.5 minutes    MF Reload 1.2 hours
Zhao-Xue Missile Fire Control FC37-R1 (40%) (1)     Range 37.8m km    Resolution 1
AFM Starlance (4)  Speed: 88 800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 10.4m km   WH: 3    Size: 1    TH: 888/532/266

Long Technology Fighter Sensor (1)     GPS 1000     Range 8.0m km    Resolution 100

A more standard F-27 with 1 FC, 3000Km/s faster and 4 layers of armor, not sure if armor will help but this should at least give them some protection against gauss cannons, small railguns and AMMs.

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F-27 Anaconda MkIII class Heavy Fighter    437 tons     3 Crew     566.8 BP      TCS 8.74  TH 57.6  EM 0
27459 km/s     Armour 4-5     Shields 0-0     Sensors 1/1/0/0     Damage Control Rating 0     PPV 4.6
Maint Life 0 Years     MSP 0    AFR 87%    IFR 1.2%    1YR 43    5YR 648    Max Repair 240 MSP
Intended Deployment Time: 0.04 months    Spare Berths 2   
Magazine 4   

Lenoir-Bonald Heavy Fighter SCAM Drive (1)    Power 240    Fuel Use 381.92%    Signature 57.6    Exp 30%
Fuel Capacity 15 000 Litres    Range 1.6 billion km   (16 hours at full power)

Manning Foundation Gauss Cannon R5-17 (4x5)    Range 50 000km     TS: 27459 km/s     Accuracy Modifier 17%     RM 5    ROF 5        1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Eleam Incorporated Fire Control S00.5 60-10000 (FTR) (1)    Max Range: 120 000 km   TS: 40000 km/s     92 83 75 67 58 50 42 33 25 17

Long Aerospace Industries Size 1 Box Launcher (4)    Missile Size 1    Hangar Reload 7.5 minutes    MF Reload 1.2 hours
Zhao-Xue Missile Fire Control FC37-R1 (40%) (1)     Range 37.8m km    Resolution 1
AFM Starlance (4)  Speed: 88 800 km/s   End: 1.9m    Range: 10.4m km   WH: 3    Size: 1    TH: 888/532/266

Long Technology Fighter Sensor (1)     GPS 1000     Range 8.0m km    Resolution 100

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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 10:12:39 AM »
Ohh well the Anaconda MkII worked good, in theory. Having auto fire on it used one FC and attacked one target, when I went in and targeted and fired manually it worked as it should but will probably take even longer time than before. So the new standard fighter of the kingdom will bee that F-27 Anaconda.
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Re: Terran Kingdom fighters and its Carriers
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 04:37:14 PM »
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Ohh well the Anaconda MkII worked good, in theory.  Having auto fire on it used one FC and attacked one target, when I went in and targeted and fired manually it worked as it should but will probably take even longer time than before.  So the new standard fighter of the kingdom will bee that F-27 Anaconda.

There's a wonderful button on the targeting screen labeled 'Same Loc'.  Which says that every FC on every ship of the selected clas in the task group should target a thing at the same location as what the selected FC is targeting.  It saves a lot of time, but be aware that it doesn't allow for multiple targeting of the same enemy, so once you have more FCs than targets you'll have to manually do the overflow.