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Posted by: Father Tim
« on: May 31, 2011, 11:02:40 AM »

Certainly not sir.  I was asked what sort of fleet I envisioned and I answered.  I have no control over ship design, no do I seek such.  I have no influence on the number or proportion of engines installed in any ship, merely the responsibility for the design of said engines.  It is not I, but the Honourable Minister for Infrastructure - in consultation with yourself - who will choose the design for your survey ships.  How they will be used is of course up to you.


Dr. Phineas T. Vendar
Posted by: ardem
« on: May 31, 2011, 09:56:26 AM »

My point is not about missiles, my point is it should be up to the defence ministry to make policy commitments in this area. Nor I am suggesting what the Defence Ministry should do. Are you telling me, your going to design survey vessels for my ministry and tell me how to use them. But by you announcing you will control the policy via technology choices in the direction for all ministries as you see fit, is paramount to a dictatorship.

I think not Sir.

Senator Winston

Posted by: Father Tim
« on: May 31, 2011, 09:43:32 AM »

I can not in good conscience approve a heavy reliance on such an expensive and inefficient technology as missiles.  Our supply of Sorium is critically limited and must not be diverted from ship operations to expensive toys.  At this time we completely lack the facility to produce any sort of missile other than an expensive target drone.  Furthermore, we lack the necessary specialists and research personnel to alleviate this deficiency any time soon.

It is for this reason that I must lobby my Honourable Colleague, the Minister for Infrastructure George Payne to construct additional Academies as soon as possible.  We need additional trained research personnel urgently.

In other news I am pleased to announce the appointment of our Vice President's nephew, the brilliant young Dr. James Winston, to head a very important project in our Nuclear Propulsion department.
Posted by: ardem
« on: May 31, 2011, 09:12:59 AM »

This is what I mean by a technology minister controlling ship design, this is unacceptable, the technology minister should work in the parameters of the minister in a broad speaking fashion not some cowboy renege element, doing all the aspect of design.

Yes the ministry of defence and survey and commerce will not want to be involved in the minor details, but shouldn't it be up to the Ministry of Defence to select what ships are designed, what if he decides for his tactic he needs a fleet of missile frigates nor laser frigates. I understand the Ministry of technology need to work the finer details of components and weapons sizes etc.

I will strongly oppose in the Senate any push from another Minister in controlling Survey policy, in which the president in good faith have given me the heavy task of representing.

Senator Wilson
Posted by: Father Tim
« on: May 30, 2011, 10:30:31 PM »

Senator Payne,

While a final decision will have to be predicated upon the talents and interests of our scientific staff - and of course our initial technological review* - I envision a fleet of fast, heavily-armoured ships mounting fast-firing beam weapons.  To that end, engine technology will emphasised, as will beam fire control and capacitor recharge rate.


*I'm assuming the initial RP allocation will be done randomly during empire creation.
Posted by: Panopticon
« on: May 30, 2011, 04:52:09 PM »

Oh Dr. Vendar, such battles we shall fight.
Posted by: areyoua
« on: May 30, 2011, 02:57:37 PM »

Dr. Vendar, what would you do in terms of designing ship components? Would you be pro-missile or pro-beam, armor or speed? There are a lot of questions that need to be answered about research in the future, and I hope you will take some time to explain your veiws on those matters.

Senator George Payne
Posted by: Father Tim
« on: May 30, 2011, 01:07:17 PM »

I, Dr. Phineas T. Vendar, discoverer of Vendarite and inventor of the 'Vendar Process' for cold-rolled Duranium armour, do hereby put myself forward for consideration as Technology Minister of our fledgling organization.

As a former research scientist I can assure you I will take the utmost care in directing our research efforts, never forgetting that we need a solid foundation in Construction and Production methods, not to mention Logistics, to keep our company at the forefront of galactic knowledge.  I promise not to get distracted by the latest flashy toys our Military Minister is demanding, and commit at least 50% of our research efforts to furthering such basic technologies as Mining, Construction, Research and of course, Wealth Creation rates.  A strong foundation is what got us here, and a strong foundation will lead us into the future!


Dr. Phineas T. Vendar
'A Strong Foundation'

Posted by: Sheb
« on: May 29, 2011, 03:21:11 AM »

I think you struck the right balance. I can only approve of waiting for more information before committing ourselves to a strategy. If we need to evacuate the Earth, I will have to change my position too, asking for more Colony Ships. Therefore, I endorse you as Infrastructure and Production Minister.
Posted by: areyoua
« on: May 28, 2011, 12:16:10 PM »

I think the decision as to how much industry should be used to create more industry will be greatly effected by the starting situation.  If we have a heating disaster, then we should devote most if not all our industry to finding an extra-solar planet capable of supporting humanity and moving our population there.  If, on the other hand, we do not have a pressing need to leave Sol, more industry can be put towards improving production, but we still should use a significant portion of industry to build ship components.

In other news, I do believe it is time to start handing out my endorsements for positions in the ministry.  I will endorse Charles Winston for the position of Survey Minister (even though that whip has already sailed) as his plan for a controlled exploration program is preferable to being at risk to the dangers of space.  I will endorse Panopticon as Military Minister as he is the only person applying for the position, and his primarily defensive tone will insure humanity's safety.  I will endorse Phan Duc Tho as Commerce Minister even though his opponent has the same policies as him as his interest in matters even outside his proposed position is commendable.
Posted by: Sheb
« on: May 28, 2011, 05:08:51 AM »

Well, maybe you're right. I really think no more than 40-50% of our industry should be used for non-growth related production. It leaves more than enough production capacity for a few engines.
Posted by: Detjen
« on: May 28, 2011, 04:03:13 AM »

  Hehe such fun conversation,  I Hope noone gets hurt I know politics is a slanderous game but we are here to have fun over all so try not to be too much of a politition  :P   that said its really appealing to see the enthusiasm being stirred up and hope everyones still rocking and ready for the start in a few days.  head on over to the senate page I have soem details of our first government positions but only a few actually selected.    ALSO if you can think of any other minisitries to put down let me know and ill see about maybe adding them before the start
Posted by: areyoua
« on: May 27, 2011, 02:54:27 PM »

Why must that be the priority? Shouldn't we strive to go to space as fast as we can so as to identify any habitable planets or ruins that can then be our targets for exploitation? I do concede that industry should be used to improve itself, but we can and should only do that once we get our survey ships into space to begin exploration.
Posted by: Sheb
« on: May 27, 2011, 02:11:10 PM »

Shouldn't the industry's priority be to develop itself? How much of our industrial capacity do you plan to use on construction facotries, mine and scientifics institutes? All together, they should represent at the very least 50% of our industry.
Posted by: areyoua
« on: May 27, 2011, 12:17:31 PM »

I, George Payne, would like to announce my application to the Ministry of Infrastructure. 
Not only does there seem to be nobody who is willing to take up the position, I have a plan to make our glorious nation become a glorious, space-faring nation.  If I were to be accepted at the position, I would commence by building ship components using our industry that would then be used on building survey ships in order to explore our surroundings to see if there are any threats to humanity or planets suitable for mankind to walk upon.  Of course, the shipyards not building survey ships would still be building warships and commercial ships, just not with the support of our construction factories.  In terms of commercial ships I would prioritize the building of Jump Gate Construction Ships and Terraforming ships in order to allow ships without jump drives to freely go to planets of interest and to transform those planets of interest into new homes for humanity.