C# Aurora Changes Discussion

[Erik L]

Like this?

Do those colors match the Galactic map notations for the same? My preference would be to have consistent colors between the two.

[Conscript Gary]

Will the new Auto-route options be stored with the task group and used with standing/conditional orders? Now that we have fleets that will want to move to different systems on their own without player input, it might make sense for them to obey the same restrictions the player has set when issuing movement orders. If I have a geosurvey fleet set to move to the next system when done with the one they're currently in, I might want them to respect the danger rating of any systems they might want to pathfind through. And if I have a quick-response fleet that wants to investigate a point-of-interest waypoint I've just set, I might want them to not pathfind through alien territory to do so.

Under the hood, I'm curious if civilian and NPR traffic will make use of these flags in their pathfinding as well.

[Steve Walmsley]

Do those colors match the Galactic map notations for the same? My preference would be to have consistent colors between the two.

The galactic map colours are for habitability of planets rather than type of population. The colours do match the Economics window, which displays populations greater than zero in light green and mining colonies in dark green. I've made a further improvement, which is to show the total population or, if the pop is zero, the number of the primary installation. In order of priority these are automated mines (including asteroid miners), then terraformers (including orbital), then tracking stations. This is also the same way the Economics window functions.

[Steve Walmsley]

Will the new Auto-route options be stored with the task group and used with standing/conditional orders? Now that we have fleets that will want to move to different systems on their own without player input, it might make sense for them to obey the same restrictions the player has set when issuing movement orders. If I have a geosurvey fleet set to move to the next system when done with the one they're currently in, I might want them to respect the danger rating of any systems they might want to pathfind through. And if I have a quick-response fleet that wants to investigate a point-of-interest waypoint I've just set, I might want them to not pathfind through alien territory to do so.

Under the hood, I'm curious if civilian and NPR traffic will make use of these flags in their pathfinding as well.

There aren't stored with the fleet at the moment, but that seems like a sensible idea. Civilians will use the danger rating but not the alien control function. NPR movement AI isn't written yet but they will make use of some of the functions.

EDIT: Fleets now have two stored values, Avoid Danger and Avoid Alien Systems. These are set on the Movement Orders tab (using the appropriate check boxes) and will affect the algorithm used in Auto Route and for the Standing and Conditional Orders.

[Steve Walmsley]

I've updated the rules posts with the Auto Route changes above

[snapto]

Just curious, looking at the latest screenshots, I didn't see anywhere to add movement order templates.   Will this be going away given the new auto-move feature?  I commonly used a template to move fuel harvesters to a given location.  If templates do go away, would it be possible to add harvesters to the important installation display list?  These changes are looking great!

[JacenHan]

"Order Templates" is right below"Autoroute by system", so the options might appear only when that is selected.

[snapto]

"Order Templates" is right below"Autoroute by system", so the options might appear only when that is selected.

Ah, excellent.   Good eyes!

[clement]

For the Auto Route by System pathing, if the "Exclude Alien-Controlled" check box is ticked, and you have a diplomatic relationship with an Alien that allows military ships to pass through their territory, will it still avoid their systems?

To use your example, if the US and the Commonwealth had a Military Cooperation Level of Friendly or Allied, would the US Fleet path be routed through through Commonwealth systems or would it still avoid their systems?

Great new features! The progress looks really good.

[Steve Walmsley]

For the Auto Route by System pathing, if the "Exclude Alien-Controlled" check box is ticked, and you have a diplomatic relationship with an Alien that allows military ships to pass through their territory, will it still avoid their systems?

To use your example, if the US and the Commonwealth had a Military Cooperation Level of Friendly or Allied, would the US Fleet path be routed through through Commonwealth systems or would it still avoid their systems?

Great new features! The progress looks really good.

Longer term I will probably replace the simple on/off with an option for setting the acceptable diplomatic status (none, neutral, friendly, etc.).

[TheDeadlyShoe]

*strokes chin*

if the waypoint system is being extended like this, you could also mark Mining and Sorium Mining waypoints

[PlasmaXJ]

I can't wait to play this version!

[MarcAFK]

Finally intelligent civilian!

[Zincat]

Is there a cutoff limit  to how often the checks for trade routes are done?

I mean, say that I am running on 5-seconds interval due to combat. Will the checks be done every 5 seconds, if there are civilian ships with no available routes? Because it would seem unnecessary to me. Even if the delay is small, it's still useless.

I don't know, having this code run at most once per hour seems a good tradeoff to me.

[Steve Walmsley]

Is there a cutoff limit  to how often the checks for trade routes are done?

I mean, say that I am running on 5-seconds interval due to combat. Will the checks be done every 5 seconds, if there are civilian ships with no available routes? Because it would seem unnecessary to me. Even if the delay is small, it's still useless.

I don't know, having this code run at most once per hour seems a good tradeoff to me.

It runs (like Standing Orders) during increments that are longer than one hour.