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C# Aurora => C# Installation => Topic started by: Steve Walmsley on April 21, 2020, 02:58:30 PM

Title: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 21, 2020, 02:58:30 PM
This is not save game compatible. Delete the Aurora.exe and AuroraDB.db files from the installation directory and then copy the two files from this patch into that directory.

v1.8.0 Patch (http://www.pentarch.org/steve/Aurora180.rar) (21Mb)

If you reported a bug in a previous version and I didn't explicitly state it was fixed, please check it still exists in v1.8 before reporting it. Please do not report bugs from earlier versions.

Please read Known Issues before reporting bugs
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=10637.0
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: Ancalagon on April 21, 2020, 03:04:04 PM
Thanks for all your hard work, Steve!
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: buergerjoh on April 21, 2020, 03:05:49 PM
Yeah, thanks for the amazing work! Really enjoying the new (fast!) Aurora!
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: GhostIsGone on April 21, 2020, 03:11:46 PM
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: Bughunter on April 21, 2020, 03:12:39 PM
Cannot remember seeing any AAA game with this level of post-release support.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Ektor on April 21, 2020, 04:02:53 PM
Thanks, Steve!
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: gaogzs on April 21, 2020, 06:34:19 PM
May I know when is there going to be a stable release?
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 21, 2020, 06:36:13 PM
May I know when is there going to be a stable release?

I was planning to do it at the weekend. I am just doing my best to keep the releases unstable until then.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Eretzu on April 21, 2020, 06:44:00 PM
New here, Thank you Steve for sharing Aurora with us.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Tuli on April 21, 2020, 07:29:46 PM
Sorry with my question, Steve: Will you release a version compatible with 768 high resolution? The tipical problem with screen-notebook.  I have 1366x768.

Thanks!
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Narhalles on April 21, 2020, 09:53:23 PM
first time posting.     Great game just found it Saturday :) found a couple of bugs on current release (1.    8.    0)

-Survey vessels will not continue to their second set of conditional orders if their first orders are not valid (tried it with both survey nearest body as first and survey nearest survey location as second as well as vs versus) (issue is new since 1.    6.    3)

-Two wormholes in system A linking to Two wormholes in system B 

-EDIT- I believe the last is covered under known bugs, I just misinterpreted the bugs wording.
-cargo vessels are not dropping x1 of item when instructed to do so instead they drop all (trying to move mass drivers around sol)
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: vorpal+5 on April 21, 2020, 10:05:38 PM
I fear Steve will feel burned by his pet project at some point, given how much he works on it. If you need to take a break Steve, then don't hesitate, we will wait (albeit impatiently, but we will wait).
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Paul Shakur on April 21, 2020, 11:50:40 PM
first time posting.    Great game just found it Saturday :) found a couple of bugs on current release (1.   8.   0)

-Survey vessels will not continue to their second set of conditional orders if their first orders are not valid (tried it with both survey nearest body as first and survey nearest survey location as second as well as vs versus) (issue is new since 1.   6.   3)

-Two wormholes in system A linking to Two wormholes in system B 

-cargo vessels are not dropping x1 of item when instructed to do so instead they drop all (trying to move mass drivers around sol)
If your ship is equipped only with Geological Survey Sensors then "Survey Nearest Surevey Location" order will not work, because it tells captain to use Gravitational Survey Sensor and scan possible Jump Points. In general, every order that have two words:
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Narhalles on April 22, 2020, 01:06:26 AM
They have both equipped.  as I stated exact same build worked just fine with no order errors in 1. 6. 3.

Although I wish it were that simple to fix.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Father Tim on April 22, 2020, 02:01:14 AM
. . .found a couple of bugs on current release (1.    8.    0)

-Two wormholes in system A linking to Two wormholes in system B 


Not a bug, just exceedingly rare.  You can, after all, build two roads by two different routes to next village.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 22, 2020, 06:01:48 AM
I fear Steve will feel burned by his pet project at some point, given how much he works on it. If you need to take a break Steve, then don't hesitate, we will wait (albeit impatiently, but we will wait).

Its fine. This is what I do for fun, so I not going to burn out. I've been putting in a lot of hours for six months, although by now I expected to be spending time in the motorhome :). I just want to get through the bugs so I can move to new features. One major thing is expanding the variety of NPRs for example and adding extra spoiler races. I don't want to do that without a stable version

All the bug reports have helped a lot with that goal, so thanks to everyone. The latest version still has some bugs but the number and severity seem to be dropping off. If that continues, the releases will start to come further apart as I managed to do some play-testing of my own.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Kof on April 22, 2020, 07:21:50 AM
NPR variety sounds exciting  ;D

IOM lock-down due to end on Friday, with some social distancing measures to remain in place - or so I hear. The weather has been very good for the last few weeks. Maybe some local motor-homing, dry runs are on the horizon? What MPG do you get in it? Or are you too scared to work it out? Although fuel costs will be pretty benevolent for a bit anyway.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 22, 2020, 08:53:21 AM
NPR variety sounds exciting  ;D

IOM lock-down due to end on Friday, with some social distancing measures to remain in place - or so I hear. The weather has been very good for the last few weeks. Maybe some local motor-homing, dry runs are on the horizon? What MPG do you get in it? Or are you too scared to work it out? Although fuel costs will be pretty benevolent for a bit anyway.

MPG is about 23 on a long run - less around towns. Considering it is almost 25 foot long (7.5m) and 10 feet high (3m), I don't think that is too bad. Its about the same as my Shogun. Besides, given what I paid for it, I am not worrying abut the fuel :)

I am keen to get out and about on the island, but my wife not convinced yet :)
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Kof on April 22, 2020, 11:40:36 AM
Your wife is wise IMO. I'm gonna wait until there's no new cases for two weeks.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Kamilo on April 22, 2020, 01:20:42 PM
Hey Steve,

is there gonna be a stable version, where updates dont wipe savegames?
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Demonides on April 22, 2020, 01:51:06 PM
path 1.x not save game compatible
path 1.x.x save compatible
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Pedroig on April 22, 2020, 02:07:00 PM
path 1.x not save game compatible
path 1.x.x save compatible

Did you delete the two files or did you overwrite them?

Delete them, then extract the files and try again.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Father Tim on April 22, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
Hey Steve,

is there gonna be a stable version, where updates dont wipe savegames?

No, but occasionally yes.

It's 90% likely the next patch will be 8.0.1 rather than 8.1.0, but it all depends on the seriousness of bugs we find and the extent of changes caused by suggestions implemented.  And even then, at some point there will be an 8.1.0.

Every release of Aurora will last as long as it lasts, and is subject to database-replacing upgrade at any time.  If you're that concerned about replacing your game, don't start one for another month or so -- or at least until the patches are a week apart or more -- or live with an out-of-date game with fewer features and do your best to avoid any bugs that have been discovered in the mean time.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: kadste on April 22, 2020, 03:14:57 PM
Steve,

Thanks for all the hard work that you have put in this labor of love.  You have made many people happy (including me!) and have taken our minds off this nasty virus. 

Is there somewhere that i can contribute to your motoring fuel fund.  Just a little way to say THANKS.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: RaidersOfTheVerge on April 22, 2020, 04:54:43 PM
Really appreciate the updates! I know its likely not the most interesting item, but is there a list of things fixed anywhere?
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 22, 2020, 06:52:39 PM
Hey Steve,

is there gonna be a stable version, where updates dont wipe savegames?

There will never be a situation where future versions will always be save game compatible. That was still the case in VB6 for patches 12 years after launch. There will be versions where saves games are compatible because I have not made any database changes. You don't have to upgrade though and can continue playing the previous version.

If the next version if save game compatible the version number will increase by 0.0.1. A database update will increase version number by 0.1.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 22, 2020, 06:54:23 PM
Steve,

Thanks for all the hard work that you have put in this labor of love.  You have made many people happy (including me!) and have taken our minds off this nasty virus. 

Is there somewhere that i can contribute to your motoring fuel fund.  Just a little way to say THANKS.

Thanks :)

If you wish to donate, you could send to my PayPal at stevewalmsley4077 @ gmail.com
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 22, 2020, 06:54:50 PM
Really appreciate the updates! I know its likely not the most interesting item, but is there a list of things fixed anywhere?

Fixes are listed in the bugs threads as I fix them.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: alex_brunius on April 23, 2020, 06:24:12 AM
Thanks :)

If you wish to donate, you could send to my PayPal at stevewalmsley4077 @ gmail.com

I sent a bit of cash your way, should be enough for a few nice wines and hopefully can help encourage you to add back the old grey/white theme soon so we don't have to play with this horrible yellow text on blue background forever.  ::)
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Steve Walmsley on April 23, 2020, 09:17:21 AM
Thanks :)

If you wish to donate, you could send to my PayPal at stevewalmsley4077 @ gmail.com

I sent a bit of cash your way, should be enough for a few nice wines and hopefully can help encourage you to add back the old grey/white theme soon so we don't have to play with this horrible yellow text on blue background forever.  ::)

Thanks - greatly appreciated and I will spend it wisely on quality alcohol :)

Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: Stoned on April 23, 2020, 09:34:10 AM
I know I'm no tech whiz, but I am having issues installing the 1. 8 patch.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Dadekster on April 23, 2020, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley link=topic=10991. msg127281#msg127281 date=1587651441
Quote from: alex_brunius link=topic=10991. msg127231#msg127231 date=1587641052
Quote from: Steve Walmsley link=topic=10991. msg127106#msg127106 date=1587599663
Thanks :)

If you wish to donate, you could send to my PayPal at stevewalmsley4077 @ gmail. com

I sent a bit of cash your way, should be enough for a few nice wines and hopefully can help encourage you to add back the old grey/white theme soon so we don't have to play with this horrible yellow text on blue background forever.   ::)

Thanks - greatly appreciated and I will spend it wisely on quality alcohol :)

Don't post much but for such a noble cause I am happy to pitch in! Just wanted to say thanks for letting us enjoy your hobby with you, even with the associated difficulties it causes you (entitled people, disrespectful people. . . well, people in general I guess!  :) )

The speed at which you tackle things is amazing and I am looking forward to seeing how you approach the suggestions thread in the future.  Good luck!
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Michael Sauer on April 23, 2020, 11:12:02 PM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley link=topic=10991. msg126834#msg126834 date=1587553308
Quote from: vorpal+5 link=topic=10991. msg126775#msg126775 date=1587524738
I fear Steve will feel burned by his pet project at some point, given how much he works on it.  If you need to take a break Steve, then don't hesitate, we will wait (albeit impatiently, but we will wait).

Its fine.  This is what I do for fun, so I not going to burn out.  I've been putting in a lot of hours for six months, although by now I expected to be spending time in the motorhome :).  I just want to get through the bugs so I can move to new features.  One major thing is expanding the variety of NPRs for example and adding extra spoiler races.  I don't want to do that without a stable version

All the bug reports have helped a lot with that goal, so thanks to everyone.  The latest version still has some bugs but the number and severity seem to be dropping off.  If that continues, the releases will start to come further apart as I managed to do some play-testing of my own.

So now Steve's real motivation for making this so interesting becomes clear.  He has found a great way of finding the most dedicated and motivated crew of beta testers! ;D
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: anakim on April 24, 2020, 09:39:53 PM
Good JOB Star Marchal Steve :). And thanks you for the best 4x of all times.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: SpikeTheHobbitMage on April 24, 2020, 10:06:44 PM
I know I'm no tech whiz, but I am having issues installing the 1. 8 patch.
First, install the 151Full package.
Second, unpack the Aurora180.rar.  It contains two files: Aurora.exe and AuroraDB.db.  These replace the files with the same name from the 151 package.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: Froggiest1982 on April 25, 2020, 01:58:27 AM
I know I'm no tech whiz, but I am having issues installing the 1. 8 patch.
First, install the 151Full package.
Second, unpack the Aurora180.rar.  It contains two files: Aurora.exe and AuroraDB.db.  These replace the files with the same name from the 151 package.

Overwrite could cause issues with the database. ais always better to cancel the previous .exe and database prior copying the newcones into the directory.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: Paul Shakur on April 27, 2020, 01:49:44 AM
I know I'm no tech whiz, but I am having issues installing the 1. 8 patch.
You can check "Installation Mirrors" topic and chceck my post where I provide single file download of Aurora C# installation on my Google Drive:
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=10644.msg121825#msg121825
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: TMaekler on April 27, 2020, 02:51:41 AM
Overwrite could cause issues with the database. ais always better to cancel the previous .exe and database prior copying the newcones into the directory.
Why could an overwrite cause issues?
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: NightlinerSGS on April 27, 2020, 03:21:21 AM
Quote from: froggiest1982 link=topic=10991. msg127828#msg127828 date=1587797907


Overwrite could cause issues with the database.  ais always better to cancel the previous . exe and database prior copying the newcones into the directory.

I'm not sure if you're the same person, but I've read this so many times now.

What exactly do you mean when you say "cancel the previous files"? There's no process running that could get canceled, unless you run Aurora during the update, then obviously it won't work.  You can't "cancel" a file.

Also, replacing the existing files with new ones can't cause any issues since the files are, well, replaced.  Unless the new files are already corrupted or get corrupted during the transfer, but this could also happen if there was nothing to overwrite.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Mr.Nap on April 27, 2020, 03:33:43 AM
Quote from: froggiest1982 link=topic=10991. msg127828#msg127828 date=1587797907


Overwrite could cause issues with the database.  ais always better to cancel the previous . exe and database prior copying the newcones into the directory.

I'm not sure if you're the same person, but I've read this so many times now.

What exactly do you mean when you say "cancel the previous files"? There's no process running that could get canceled, unless you run Aurora during the update, then obviously it won't work.  You can't "cancel" a file.

Also, replacing the existing files with new ones can't cause any issues since the files are, well, replaced.  Unless the new files are already corrupted or get corrupted during the transfer, but this could also happen if there was nothing to overwrite.




It is like installing a patch through a setup, generally, you do not delete the file or files before, since the overwriting is done automatically.
So I don't see a problem either.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch
Post by: Amethys on April 27, 2020, 03:52:46 AM
Quote from: NightlinerSGS link=topic=10991.  msg128460#msg128460 date=1587975681
Quote from: froggiest1982 link=topic=10991.   msg127828#msg127828 date=1587797907


Overwrite could cause issues with the database.    ais always better to cancel the previous .   exe and database prior copying the newcones into the directory.   

I'm not sure if you're the same person, but I've read this so many times now.   

What exactly do you mean when you say "cancel the previous files"? There's no process running that could get canceled, unless you run Aurora during the update, then obviously it won't work.    You can't "cancel" a file.   

Also, replacing the existing files with new ones can't cause any issues since the files are, well, replaced.    Unless the new files are already corrupted or get corrupted during the transfer, but this could also happen if there was nothing to overwrite. 

In Discord someone had some errors coming after he overwrote the files and it was fixed after he deleted the files instead.   I have followed Steve's instructions to the letter and no problems yet.
"current recommended steps is to delete old db and move new when updating, rather than simply overwrite.  Should that matter? No.  It makes no sense.  But it seems to help" -Inglonias in Discord
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Mr.Nap on April 27, 2020, 04:05:20 AM
Quote from: NightlinerSGS link=topic=10991.  msg128460#msg128460 date=1587975681
Quote from: froggiest1982 link=topic=10991.   msg127828#msg127828 date=1587797907


Overwrite could cause issues with the database.    ais always better to cancel the previous .   exe and database prior copying the newcones into the directory.   

I'm not sure if you're the same person, but I've read this so many times now.   

What exactly do you mean when you say "cancel the previous files"? There's no process running that could get canceled, unless you run Aurora during the update, then obviously it won't work.    You can't "cancel" a file.   

Also, replacing the existing files with new ones can't cause any issues since the files are, well, replaced.    Unless the new files are already corrupted or get corrupted during the transfer, but this could also happen if there was nothing to overwrite. 

In Discord someone had some errors coming after he overwrote the files and it was fixed after he deleted the files instead.   I have followed Steve's instructions to the letter and no problems yet.
"current recommended steps is to delete old db and move new when updating, rather than simply overwrite.  Should that matter? No.  It makes no sense.  But it seems to help" -Inglonias in Discord



Indeed, this is what Steve recommends, for my part, I overwrite the files and for the "moment" me either I have no problem.
But, if this manipulation is recommended, indeed, it is that there is, perhaps reason for that.
Title: Re: C# Aurora v1.80 Patch [1.8.0]
Post by: Bughunter on April 27, 2020, 04:38:38 AM
I find it more likely that the user reporting this was misunderstanding/misclicking his "do you really want to overwrite" dialogue than Aurora files magically behaving different from other files. I would even say hard drive errors are more likely, but even that should not be able to consistently reproduce problems only when overwriting.

Still, I do follow the recommendations from Steve. I feel like that if I am to submit a bug report I need to have an install that is 100% according to his instructions.