Red box around JP location?

[Gilferedir (OP)]

Just what the subject suggests, what is the red box around a jump point indicate?  I can't seem to find information about it anywhere.

[Erik L]

Just what the subject suggests, what is the red box around a jump point indicate?  I can't seem to find information about it anywhere.

I believe it is a foreign jump gate.

[Gilferedir (OP)]

Hmmm, I haven't gotten very far in any of my games yet, so I don't know much about the jump gate thing.  I've pretty much turned other empires off because I want to concentrate on learning how to explore and maintain an empire.  If it is a foreign jump gate, do I have to worry about being invaded now?  I think I have my "other empire" settings at like 50% difficulty, 0 starting empires, and like 10% or 15% chance for a new one to be created.  I'm currently in year 3, so if there is risk of invasion I think I'm screwed.

Edit: Ok, I just noticed in my task groups that it has a [JG] next to the name.  Is this something I should worry about, or is it like a Mass Effect scenario where it's like remnants of an ancient civilization?

[Erik L]

Hmmm, I haven't gotten very far in any of my games yet, so I don't know much about the jump gate thing.  I've pretty much turned other empires off because I want to concentrate on learning how to explore and maintain an empire.  If it is a foreign jump gate, do I have to worry about being invaded now?  I think I have my "other empire" settings at like 50% difficulty, 0 starting empires, and like 10% or 15% chance for a new one to be created.  I'm currently in year 3, so if there is risk of invasion I think I'm screwed.

Edit: Ok, I just noticed in my task groups that it has a [JG] next to the name.  Is this something I should worry about, or is it like a Mass Effect scenario where it's like remnants of an ancient civilization?

Precursors left behind remnants of jump gate networks.

[Gilferedir (OP)]

Cool, I ended up sending a brave soul through it and found a nice binary system with no asteroids (kinda weird).  No sign of life yet, and found a very nice planet to start a populated colony on.

Thanks for the help.

[voknaar]

Finding a foreign built jumpgate wont necessarily mean there's a alien presence in the system, two way gates however almost always mean an NPR has been this way recently.

Edit: Spellchecked.

[Charlie Beeler]

<snip>two way gates however almost always mean an NPR has been this way recently.

This has not been my experience. 

[voknaar]

This has not been my experience. 

I've only ever seen a random gate on one side of a jump point every other time was the result of a gate-happy NPR for me 

[Gilferedir (OP)]

I eventually found two, and both had no enemies on the other side, and were two way.

[voknaar]

Hmm interesting. I wont argue otherwise it's just something i've yet to experience myself

[sloanjh]

This has not been my experience. 

Ditto.

John

[Erik L]

In my current game, there was a JG 2 hops from Sol, leading to a 0.0 cost uninhabited planet. The gates were on both ends.

[Thiosk]

Sometimes the wormholes are just stable.  Sometimes aliens stabilized them, other times the cosmic strings are extra saucy and perfect for flying ships through.

Breaks up the terrain a little.

[sloanjh]

Sometimes the wormholes are just stable.  Sometimes aliens stabilized them, other times the cosmic strings are extra saucy and perfect for flying ships through.

Breaks up the terrain a little.

I suspect your tongue is firmly in cheek here, but in case it's not (and for the benefit of new players)....

Ummmm no.  A red box indicates that when you check out the warp point, you discover that there's a jump gate there that someone or something  [ominous music] already built.  Think of it as being on the same level as finding the mysterious obelisk on the moon in 2001.

From a role-playing point of view, this should be taken as evidence that we are not alone in the universe, just like discovering ruins.

John

[Thiosk]

I base my analysis of warp points purely off a 2 line post from steve, posted in response to questions of why one cannot destroy jumpgates.  This would in principle allow for natural and artificial jumpgates.  If the aliens that built them are alive, the JGs are artificial; if the precursors or "other" built them, they're what i'm calling "natural" in this context.  

Although I haven't stated it anywhere, the stablised jump point, rather than an actual physical jump gate, is how I tend to view it as well. Maybe I should make that canon. I'll give it some thought.

Steve

See steve?  You're like The Jesus or something.  We'll take your short quotes and compile them and spout them back to eachother eons later.

Institute religion into the game and call it walmsleyism