Posted by: David_H_Roarings
« on: January 28, 2024, 03:49:35 PM »Quote from: QuakeIV link=topic=13466. msg168391#msg168391 date=1706419985
But the Nimitz class is 100,000 tons
that is displacement long tons, Aurora uses liquid hydrogen tons which is about 14 times as much volume. So this carrier would be between 6 an 7 times the size of a modern day Nimitz Class
Quote from: AlStar link=topic=13466. msg168395#msg168395 date=1706422251
It's hard to say for sure without knowing the missiles you're using on your carrier and fighters; but at a glance:
Given that they're missile fighters, I feel like I'd probably trade speed for more range - either a more efficient engine and/or bigger fuel tanks. Given that you've got a fire control with 20. 8m km range, I assume you're not firing at point blank. The goal is to fight as far away from the carrier as possible.
As for the carrier itself, given its fairly low speed, it's probably not getting into beam range of anything that doesn't want it to. I would switch out the lasers for for more gauss - you want maximum anti-missile power, not stopping power. I'd consider switching the 4 current engines for 2 engines that are twice as large for better fuel efficiency or tweak their power rating so you get the same efficiency for better speed.
The S4 Missiles are these ~
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Missile Size: 4.00 MSP (10.000 Tons) Warhead: 4.0 Radiation Damage: 4.0
Speed: 31,050 km/s Fuel: 650 Flight Time: 11 minutes Range: 21.2m km
Decoys: 1 ECM-3 ECCM-1 ATG: 32%
Cost Per Missile: 5.525
Chance to Hit: 1k km/s 409.9% 3k km/s 136.6% 5k km/s 82% 10k km/s 41%
An updated version of the fighters
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Hawk MK6a class Fighter (P) 300 tons 1 Crew 49.1 BP TCS 6 TH 49 EM 0
8161 km/s Armour 1-3 Shields 0-0 HTK 1 Sensors 0/0/0/0 DCR 0-0 PPV 3
Maint Life 22.64 Years MSP 95 AFR 7% IFR 0.1% 1YR 0 5YR 5 Max Repair 24.5 MSP
Magazine 20 / 0
Ensign Control Rating 1
Intended Deployment Time: 5.7 days Morale Check Required
F1.8 EP170 Magneto-plasma Drive EP48.96 (1) Power 49.0 Fuel Use 444.07% Signature 48.96 Explosion 17%
Fuel Capacity 14,500 Litres Range 1.96 billion km (66 hours at full power)
S4 BL E25 (5) Missile Size: 4 Hangar Reload 100 minutes MF Reload 16 hours
V4 R20 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC20-R20 (50%) (1) Range 20.8m km Resolution 20 ECCM-1
S4 FAS Missile (5) Speed: 31,050 km/s End: 11.4m Range: 21.2m km WH: 4 Size: 4 TH: 136/81/40
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Fighter for production, combat and planetary interaction
This design is classed as a Fighter for auto-assignment purposes
As for the Carrier I do tend to put more lasers then needed on ships
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Nimitz class Carrier (P) 48,000 tons 1,062 Crew 8,188.1 BP TCS 960 TH 3,840 EM 7,140
4000 km/s Armour 5-117 Shields 238-476 HTK 307 Sensors 110/110/0/0 DCR 70-14 PPV 95.18
Maint Life 4.04 Years MSP 13,910 AFR 369% IFR 5.1% 1YR 1,367 5YR 20,506 Max Repair 960 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 6,000 tons Magazine 2,117 / 0
Commander Control Rating 6 BRG AUX ENG CIC FLG PFC
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 120 Morale Check Required
M120 EP100 Magneto-plasma Drive EP1920.00 (2) Power 3840.0 Fuel Use 14.43% Signature 1920.00 Explosion 10%
Fuel Capacity 2,810,100 Litres Range 73 billion km (211 days at full power)
V5 S25 Epsilon S119 / R476 Shields (2) Recharge Time 476 seconds (0.5 per second)
V5 8k Twin 15.0cm S0.5 C0.2 FUV Laser Turret (1x2) Range 256,000km TS: 8000 km/s Power 12-0.4 RM 50,000 km ROF 150
V5 PD 16k Single 12cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (4x1) Range 200,000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 4-4 RM 50,000 km ROF 5
V3 CIWS-160 (1x8) Range 1000 km TS: 16,000 km/s ROF 5
V3 PD 16k Quad Gauss Cannon R400-17.00 Turret (11x16) Range 40,000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 40,000 km ROF 5
V4 PD S1.2 Beam Fire Control R38-TS16000 (50%) (1) Max Range: 38,400 km TS: 16,000 km/s ECCM-1 74 48 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
V4 PD S6 Beam Fire Control R192-TS16000 (50%) (1) Max Range: 192,000 km TS: 16,000 km/s ECCM-1 95 90 84 79 74 69 64 58 53 48
V4 S2 Beam Fire Control R256-TS8000 (SW) (50%) (1) Max Range: 256,000 km TS: 8,000 km/s ECCM-1 96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
V6 S1 P10.24 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R10-PB60 (1) Total Power Output 10.2 Exp 30%
V6 S0.78 P7.05 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R7-PB60 (1) Total Power Output 7.1 Exp 30%
V4 S3 ML (1) Missile Size: 3 Rate of Fire 15
V3 S1 ML (1) Missile Size: 1 Rate of Fire 10
V4 S4 ML (30.0%) (4) Missile Size: 4 Rate of Fire 600
V4 R1 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC7-R1 (1) Range 7.7m km Resolution 1 ECCM-1
V4 R1 S0.6 Missile Fire Control FC13-R1 (50%) (1) Range 13.3m km Resolution 1 ECCM-1
V4 R20 S0.2 Missile Fire Control FC20-R20 (50%) (1) Range 20.8m km Resolution 20 ECCM-1
S1 AMM 8mk (60) Speed: 55,200 km/s End: 2.5m Range: 8.3m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 184/110/55
S3 AMM 13mk (19) Speed: 36,533 km/s End: 6.2m Range: 13.5m km WH: 2 Size: 3 TH: 121/73/36
S4 FAS Missile (500) Speed: 31,050 km/s End: 11.4m Range: 21.2m km WH: 4 Size: 4 TH: 136/81/40
V4 R1 S5 Active Search Sensor AS19-R1 (50%) (1) GPS 105 Range 19.2m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
V4 R100 S20 Active Search Sensor AS177-R100 (50%) (1) GPS 42000 Range 178m km Resolution 100
V4 R20 S5 Active Search Sensor AS52-R20 (50%) (1) GPS 2100 Range 52m km Resolution 20
V4 S10 EM Sensor EM10-110 (50%) (1) Sensitivity 110 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 82.9m km
V4 S10 Thermal Sensor TH10-110 (50%) (1) Sensitivity 110 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 82.9m km
Electronic Warfare Jammers: Sensor 2 Fire Control 2 Missile 2
Strike Group
20x Hawk MK6 Fighter Speed: 12001 km/s Size: 6
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Carrier for auto-assignment purposes
Quote from: StarshipCactus link=topic=13466. msg168397#msg168397 date=1706431498
I would personally ditch the lasers entirely and use that space for more fuel, ammo, MSP and maybe fighters. Those lasers won't be useful 95% of the time.
Additional fuel, ammo, and MSP are to be brought on support ships. The carrier has a movement range of ~30bkm once separated from support ship elements(which most of the time probably wont be separated from)
I do plan on having these as screens for the carrier
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Tarawa class Destroyer 18,000 tons 482 Crew 3,401.1 BP TCS 360 TH 2,160 EM 2,550
6000 km/s Armour 4-61 Shields 85-425 HTK 142 Sensors 27/27/0/0 DCR 28-15 PPV 38.61
Maint Life 4.98 Years MSP 3,150 AFR 144% IFR 2.0% 1YR 212 5YR 3,173 Max Repair 360 MSP
Hangar Deck Capacity 2,000 tons Magazine 88 / 0
Commander Control Rating 4 BRG AUX ENG CIC
Intended Deployment Time: 12 months Flight Crew Berths 40 Morale Check Required
M36 Ep 125 Magneto-plasma Drive EP720.00 (3) Power 2160 Fuel Use 46.04% Signature 720 Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 1,480,800 Litres Range 32.2 billion km (62 days at full power)
V5 S20 Epsilon S85 / R425 Shields (1) Recharge Time 425 seconds (0.2 per second)
V5 18.750cm C3 Far Ultraviolet Laser (1) Range 256,000km TS: 6,000 km/s Power 9-3 RM 50,000 km ROF 15
V5 15.0cm S0.75 C1 Far Ultraviolet Laser (3) Range 256,000km TS: 6,000 km/s Power 6-1 RM 50,000 km ROF 30
V5 PD 16k Single 10cm C3 Far Ultraviolet Laser Turret (1x1) Range 150,000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 3-3 RM 50,000 km ROF 5
V3 CIWS-160 (1x8) Range 1000 km TS: 16,000 km/s ROF 5
V3 PD 16k Quad Gauss Cannon R400-17.00 Turret (2x16) Range 40,000km TS: 16000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 40,000 km ROF 5
V4 PD S1.2 Beam Fire Control R38-TS16000 (50%) (1) Max Range: 38,400 km TS: 16,000 km/s ECCM-1 74 48 22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
V4 PD S2.25 BFC R144-TS16000 (SW) (50%) (1) Max Range: 144,000 km TS: 16,000 km/s ECCM-1 93 86 79 72 65 58 51 44 38 31
V4 S3 Beam Fire Control R256-TS6000 (50%) (1) Max Range: 256,000 km TS: 6,000 km/s ECCM-1 96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
V6 S1.05 P9.64 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R10-PB40 (1) Total Power Output 9.6 Exp 20%
V3 S1 ML (3) Missile Size: 1 Rate of Fire 10
V4 S4 ML (30.0%) (3) Missile Size: 4 Rate of Fire 600
V4 R1 S0.6 Missile Fire Control FC13-R1 (50%) (1) Range 13.3m km Resolution 1 ECCM-1
V4 R20 S1.2 Missile Fire Control FC50-R20 (50%) (1) Range 51m km Resolution 20 ECCM-1
S4 ASM 51mk (12) Speed: 25,800 km/s End: 33.3m Range: 51.5m km WH: 4 Size: 4 TH: 113/68/34
V4 R20 S5 Active Search Sensor AS52-R20 (50%) (1) GPS 2100 Range 52m km Resolution 20
V4 R1 S2.5 Active Search Sensor AS13-R1 (50%) (1) GPS 53 Range 13.6m km MCR 1.2m km Resolution 1
V4 S2.5 Thermal Sensor TH2.50-27.50 (50%) (1) Sensitivity 27.5 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 41.5m km
V4 S2.5 EM Sensor EM2.50-27.50 (50%) (1) Sensitivity 27.5 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 41.5m km
Electronic Warfare Jammers: Sensor 2 Fire Control 2 Missile 2
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Carrier for auto-assignment purposes
they carry one of these
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Rapier MK6 class Cutter 2,000 tons 17 Crew 811.1 BP TCS 40 TH 115 EM 0
12000 km/s Armour 7-14 Shields 0-0 HTK 11 Sensors 6/0/0/0 DCR 1-5 PPV 6
Maint Life 5.26 Years MSP 978 AFR 32% IFR 0.4% 1YR 59 5YR 886 Max Repair 480 MSP
Lieutenant Commander Control Rating 1 BRG
Intended Deployment Time: 1.1 days Morale Check Required
M12 EP250 TR25 Magneto-plasma Drive EP480.00 (1) Power 480 Fuel Use 451.05% Signature 115.20 Explosion 25%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres Range 1 billion km (23 hours at full power)
V5 18.750cm C3 Far Ultraviolet Laser (1) Range 256,000km TS: 12,000 km/s Power 9-3 RM 50,000 km ROF 15
V4 S3 Beam Fire Control R256-TS12000 (SW) (50%) (1) Max Range: 256,000 km TS: 12,000 km/s ECCM-1 96 92 88 84 80 77 73 69 65 61
V6 S0.45 P3.09 Stellarator Fusion Reactor R3-PB60 (1) Total Power Output 3.1 Exp 30%
V4 R1 S0.1 Active Search Sensor AS2-R1 (50%) (1) GPS 3 Range 2.7m km MCR 244k km Resolution 1
V4 S0.6 Thermal Sensor TH0.6-6.6 (1) Sensitivity 6.6 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 20.3m km
Electronic Warfare Jammers: Fire Control 2
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes
I am still debating on running either a military collier or commercial. If I feel like i need more fighters I'll either run them in pairs or design a CVL about half the size