Aurora 4x
New Players => The Academy => Topic started by: happy2pester on February 19, 2014, 08:11:55 PM
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I'm trying to stockpile some infrastructure for expansion to other systems, but my civilian shipping lines just keep dumping it all (And more civilians) on mars. Is there any way to stop them from doing this? I know I can set Mars to not receive colonists at this time, but will that stop the shipping lines from moving my infrastructure off world?
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Civies will only take infrastructure that you construct from one place to another if you have contracts telling them to.
Edit: Sorry, misunderstood. I think they will keep moving trade good infrastructure as long as there is supply and demand. Once Mars has some amount more than they need demand should go away.
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Try using 'ban body" on the planet making the infrastructure, however this will stop all other trade from occuring.
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the civvies will keep supplying mars as long as the population support is below a safety margin. Blocking colonists from being shipped to mars will help eventually, as it will reduce the rate of population growth (and therefore of infrastructure demand).
You have two other options here:
*build your own infrastructure and ship it
*steal Martian infrastructure using your state owned ships
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Try using 'ban body" on the planet making the infrastructure, however this will stop all other trade from occuring.
That doesn't work if you have a colony on the body, (unless that's changed.)
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Yeah you're probaby right, what about this, just stockpile your infrastructure on Mars?
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The best way to solve the problem is wait until mars's population is over 25 m and then go to the civillian tab and set the planet as either "stable" or "source of colonists" so long as it is set as a "destination" for colonists the civillians will continue to move people there.
At the moment I am using mars and luna based industry to add more infrastructure as at the moment the vast bulk of it is going to Io and Calisto. But I also need to build loads more construction factories at the end of the day.
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*build your own infrastructure and ship it
*steal Martian infrastructure using your state owned ships
The issue is I am building the infrastructure, with the intention of shipping it elsewhere, and then the civilian shipping lines take it and dump it on mars.
I do like the second plan
The best way to solve the problem is wait until mars's population is over 25 m and then go to the civillian tab and set the planet as either "stable" or "source of colonists" so long as it is set as a "destination" for colonists the civillians will continue to move people there.
I think this is probably what i'm going to go for at this point
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Infrastructure you are building the civillians have no access to. They can only move infrastructure from the Trade Goods section unless you give them a contract.
In my game: Earth produces some thousands of Infrastructure as a trade good. That is hauled by the civillian firms to Io and Calisto. At the same time I build on earth infrastructure x32 which is then collected in a BIC pool. This is the infrastructure that shows up in the summary page of Earth. Which in my case shows some 100 or so Infrastructure. The civillian lines only touch this if I set up a contract.
If you build infrastructure on luna (which I do) then what you build, what luna builds and what is delievered as a trade good from earth ends up in a large single pool that is "infrastructure" on the summary page. The civillians in principle could raid this if it also shows up in the trade good section as an export but otherwise it will not be touched.
The civillian lines will not touch purpose built infrastructure without a contract. They can only move trade goods automatically.
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Infrastructure you are building the civillians have no access to. They can only move infrastructure from the Trade Goods section unless you give them a contract.
In my game: Earth produces some thousands of Infrastructure as a trade good. That is hauled by the civillian firms to Io and Calisto. At the same time I build on earth infrastructure x32 which is then collected in a BIC pool. This is the infrastructure that shows up in the summary page of Earth. Which in my case shows some 100 or so Infrastructure. The civillian lines only touch this if I set up a contract.
If you build infrastructure on luna (which I do) then what you build, what luna builds and what is delievered as a trade good from earth ends up in a large single pool that is "infrastructure" on the summary page. The civillians in principle could raid this if it also shows up in the trade good section as an export but otherwise it will not be touched.
The civillian lines will not touch purpose built infrastructure without a contract. They can only move trade goods automatically.
I don't know what to tell you. The infrastructure I was building was turning up on mars
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I'm thinking there has to be something else going on there. Perhaps you should upload your database somewhere for others to take a look at it -- my experience mirrors Paul's, I've built my share of infrastructure and the civilians have never moved it anywhere.
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You don't have Mars selected when you are issuing the build orders?
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You don't have Mars selected when you are issuing the build orders?
Nope. I had no manufacturing facilities on mars.
I'm thinking there has to be something else going on there. Perhaps you should upload your database somewhere for others to take a look at it -- my experience mirrors Paul's, I've built my share of infrastructure and the civilians have never moved it anywhere.
Unfortunatley, because i'm a bit of a perfectionist, and because in that game I was chronically short of duranium, I have since deleted that game and started a new one.
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because in that game I was chronically short of duranium
Yeah... get used to that.
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Unfortunatley, because i'm a bit of a perfectionist, ......I have since deleted that game and started a new one.
Yeah, get used to that also.
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I don't know what to tell you. The infrastructure I was building was turning up on mars
Are you absolutely sure that it was infrastructure you were building, i.e. if you stop building infrastructure does your stock go down? The civie sector makes its own infrastructure as well, so just because civies are loading infrastructure at Earth and dumping it at Mars it doesn't mean it's the infrastructure you built.
If you're sure that they really were grabbing your infrastructure, then you should log this as a bug in the official bugs thread. As someone already mentioned, what you're describing isn't supposed to happen....
John
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What he said, above.
For what it's worth, I have sometimes let Luna and Mars grow to 100M+ population before terraforming them, just for the free infrastructure. Once you terraform them, you can steal the civilians' infrastructure, and there'll be quite a lot of it at that point.
Civilians cannot steal your infrastructure, though.
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I think i actually solved what happened here.
To move my infrastructure, i use a block of three orders
Load Infrastructure Earth
Unload Infrastructure (Wherever)
Refuel at Earth
I then use the repeat orders X times feature
What I think I must have done, is I clicked the "Repeat" button more than once. My freighters attempt to move 50 infrastructure per order set. I tell them to repeat that 19 times for a full 1000 infrastructure. But if I click the button again, they try to repeat the 1000-infrasturcture order set a further 19 times, for a total of 20000 infrastructure.
I never realized what was happening because the list of orders went down into a long scroll list, and I wasn't going to sit and count every single line, so I just assumed it was correct
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I think i actually solved what happened here.
To move my infrastructure, i use a block of three orders
Load Infrastructure Earth
Unload Infrastructure (Wherever)
Refuel at Earth
I then use the repeat orders X times feature
What I think I must have done, is I clicked the "Repeat" button more than once. My freighters attempt to move 50 infrastructure per order set. I tell them to repeat that 19 times for a full 1000 infrastructure. But if I click the button again, they try to repeat the 1000-infrasturcture order set a further 19 times, for a total of 20000 infrastructure.
I never realized what was happening because the list of orders went down into a long scroll list, and I wasn't going to sit and count every single line, so I just assumed it was correct
Repeat orders takes everything in the order list, and duplicates it x number of times.
I find cycle orders to be more useful. I can always cancel the orders when needed.
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I like to set it up for a specified amount, rather than monitor until satisfied