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Posted by: liveware
« on: May 14, 2020, 10:39:15 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 13, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Father Tim on May 11, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 11, 2020, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on April 29, 2020, 08:47:48 AM
CIWS should be working in v1.9 without active sensors.

I can now confirm that as 1.9.5 CIWS works without any setting and or Active Sensors, they will shoot as soon as a missile is in range.


Hostile missile -- or did you mean CIWS is firing on missiles from neutral powers?

I had an NPR I still set as Neutral in my test game. They fired missiles at me and the CIWS shot them down. I then switched that NPR to hostile.

I can also confirm this behavior to be accurate as of v1.9.x. Though my ship still got blown up because it was massively outclassed  :-\
Posted by: SpikeTheHobbitMage
« on: May 13, 2020, 06:45:39 PM »

Quote from: Pedroig on May 13, 2020, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 13, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Father Tim on May 11, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 11, 2020, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on April 29, 2020, 08:47:48 AM
CIWS should be working in v1.9 without active sensors.

I can now confirm that as 1.9.5 CIWS works without any setting and or Active Sensors, they will shoot as soon as a missile is in range.

Hostile missile -- or did you mean CIWS is firing on missiles from neutral powers?

I had an NPR I still set as Neutral in my test game. They fired missiles at me and the CIWS shot them down. I then switched that NPR to hostile.


Overreact much?  What is a few missile salvos between friends, friend?   :P
Hostile is red.
Red, the color of love.
Feel the love.
Posted by: Pedroig
« on: May 13, 2020, 03:00:40 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 13, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Father Tim on May 11, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 11, 2020, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on April 29, 2020, 08:47:48 AM
CIWS should be working in v1.9 without active sensors.

I can now confirm that as 1.9.5 CIWS works without any setting and or Active Sensors, they will shoot as soon as a missile is in range.

Hostile missile -- or did you mean CIWS is firing on missiles from neutral powers?

I had an NPR I still set as Neutral in my test game. They fired missiles at me and the CIWS shot them down. I then switched that NPR to hostile.


Overreact much?  What is a few missile salvos between friends, friend?   :P
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: May 13, 2020, 02:55:35 PM »

Quote from: Father Tim on May 11, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 11, 2020, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on April 29, 2020, 08:47:48 AM
CIWS should be working in v1.9 without active sensors.

I can now confirm that as 1.9.5 CIWS works without any setting and or Active Sensors, they will shoot as soon as a missile is in range.


Hostile missile -- or did you mean CIWS is firing on missiles from neutral powers?

I had an NPR I still set as Neutral in my test game. They fired missiles at me and the CIWS shot them down. I then switched that NPR to hostile.
Posted by: UberWaffe
« on: May 11, 2020, 01:40:25 PM »

Quote from: Father Tim on May 11, 2020, 12:30:38 PM
Hostile missile -- or did you mean CIWS is firing on missiles from neutral powers?
I know what you mean, but I cannot help but think the following...

Tactical Officer: "Captain! Incoming missile barrage!"
Captain: "What?! We are in neutral space! Did the Caldonians declare war?"
Tactical Officer: "Sir? They shot several hundred missiles at us!"
Captain: "Did... they... declare... war?"
Tactical Officer: "Err... No, sir."
Captain: "Tis fineeeeee then!"
Posted by: Father Tim
« on: May 11, 2020, 12:30:38 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on May 11, 2020, 05:55:47 AM
Quote from: Steve Walmsley on April 29, 2020, 08:47:48 AM
CIWS should be working in v1.9 without active sensors.

I can now confirm that as 1.9.5 CIWS works without any setting and or Active Sensors, they will shoot as soon as a missile is in range.


Hostile missile -- or did you mean CIWS is firing on missiles from neutral powers?
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: May 11, 2020, 05:55:47 AM »

Quote from: Steve Walmsley on April 29, 2020, 08:47:48 AM
CIWS should be working in v1.9 without active sensors.

I can now confirm that as 1.9.5 CIWS works without any setting and or Active Sensors, they will shoot as soon as a missile is in range.
Posted by: Omnivore
« on: April 29, 2020, 02:07:26 PM »

Quote from: Migi on April 29, 2020, 01:40:35 PM
Quote from: Omnivore on April 28, 2020, 07:19:12 PM
Unlike VB, the C# version allows commercial active sensors as long as they are size 1 HS or smaller.
Size 1 active (and passive) sensors were commercial systems in VB.

Oops, well I remembered that passives were, but thought actives weren't, but then last VB I played was 6.2 or so about 7 or 8 years ago.
Posted by: Migi
« on: April 29, 2020, 01:40:35 PM »

Quote from: Omnivore on April 28, 2020, 07:19:12 PM
Unlike VB, the C# version allows commercial active sensors as long as they are size 1 HS or smaller.
Size 1 active (and passive) sensors were commercial systems in VB.
Posted by: Steve Walmsley
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:47:48 AM »

CIWS should be working in v1.9 without active sensors.
Posted by: Roblakov
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:39:04 AM »

Quote from: mike2R on April 29, 2020, 08:10:50 AM
Quote from: Roblakov on April 29, 2020, 07:47:51 AM
Quote from: Omnivore on April 28, 2020, 07:19:12 PM
If CIWS has not been fixed as of 1.9.0, there is an easy workaround.  Unlike VB, the C# version allows commercial active sensors as long as they are size 1 HS or smaller.  Simply make the smallest cheapest active sensor possible and add it to your class design (use SM if already built).

Of course, you will have to remember to turn actives on.

So in this case, I had a large, military active sensor on the ship, which was turned on. And the missiles were neither sensed by active radar nor fired upon by CIWS. My tech for both things seem pretty high to me, but perhaps it is what another responder said; that the turret tracking speed was less than that of the missile and it reached me too quickly?

Do you have the enemy who fired the missiles flagged as hostile?  I'm not sure if it applies to CIWS, but there was talk in of PD not firing against the incoming missiles of non hostile (well, not flagged as hostile) NPRs.

Yes, these aliens are flagged as hostile.
Posted by: mike2R
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:10:50 AM »

Quote from: Roblakov on April 29, 2020, 07:47:51 AM
Quote from: Omnivore on April 28, 2020, 07:19:12 PM
If CIWS has not been fixed as of 1.9.0, there is an easy workaround.  Unlike VB, the C# version allows commercial active sensors as long as they are size 1 HS or smaller.  Simply make the smallest cheapest active sensor possible and add it to your class design (use SM if already built).

Of course, you will have to remember to turn actives on.

So in this case, I had a large, military active sensor on the ship, which was turned on. And the missiles were neither sensed by active radar nor fired upon by CIWS. My tech for both things seem pretty high to me, but perhaps it is what another responder said; that the turret tracking speed was less than that of the missile and it reached me too quickly?

Do you have the enemy who fired the missiles flagged as hostile?  I'm not sure if it applies to CIWS, but there was talk in of PD not firing against the incoming missiles of non hostile (well, not flagged as hostile) NPRs.
Posted by: Roblakov
« on: April 29, 2020, 07:47:51 AM »

Quote from: Omnivore on April 28, 2020, 07:19:12 PM
If CIWS has not been fixed as of 1.9.0, there is an easy workaround.  Unlike VB, the C# version allows commercial active sensors as long as they are size 1 HS or smaller.  Simply make the smallest cheapest active sensor possible and add it to your class design (use SM if already built).

Of course, you will have to remember to turn actives on.

So in this case, I had a large, military active sensor on the ship, which was turned on. And the missiles were neither sensed by active radar nor fired upon by CIWS. My tech for both things seem pretty high to me, but perhaps it is what another responder said; that the turret tracking speed was less than that of the missile and it reached me too quickly?
Posted by: Omnivore
« on: April 28, 2020, 07:19:12 PM »

If CIWS has not been fixed as of 1.9.0, there is an easy workaround.  Unlike VB, the C# version allows commercial active sensors as long as they are size 1 HS or smaller.  Simply make the smallest cheapest active sensor possible and add it to your class design (use SM if already built).

Of course, you will have to remember to turn actives on.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: April 28, 2020, 06:38:58 PM »

Quote from: froggiest1982 on April 28, 2020, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: Roblakov on April 28, 2020, 05:48:36 PM
Can someone explain how CIWS works? I thought that a CIWS system worked completely independent of other sensors or input.

I have a scout ship looking into an enemy's homeworld with a couple of CIWS on it as I thought the missile tech there was fairly low and such a setup would give it some immunity. Now I have the system's defense fleet destroying my scout with missiles that never showed up on my scout's active radar, with no evidence that the CIWS ever fired at anything.

I'm assuming I would get some kind of event log saying the CIWS was firing, right? If that's true, why didn't my CIWS fire on any missiles?

here http://aurorawiki.pentarch.org/index.php?title=CIWS

All I can think of why CIWS not firing is the tracking speed being lower than the actual missile yo are trying to shot down.

Okay, maybe too barebone. You need to consider also CIWS has an integrated sensor so it usually added to commercial ships as a tiny defense just in case they got caught in a short fight.

Also, they need to be enabled under the ship tab if I remember properly, although not sure if this function was removed in C#.

EDIT: As said in a previous post there was or there is a bug currently, if fixed it's unknown.