Posted by: Tavik Toth
« on: Today at 12:24:43 AM »Sounds like something that would make the most sense as something closer ranged, like plasma carronades and the like. For me, I'd certainly be interested in a kinetic weapon like that.
Posted by: EclipsedStar
« on: Yesterday at 10:30:36 PM »Good ol' kinetic artillery for ships. They launch an explosive payload with no/minimal guidance (Excalibur?) after firing to impact and detonate on a target.If the fleet being targeted moves even just a little bit side-to-side, wouldn't the kinetic artillery nearly always miss if they don't have guidance but still have to travel to their target? Would that necessitate them hitting 'something' in a small radius around them ala a proximity fuse?
Posted by: DNAturation
« on: Yesterday at 02:20:55 PM »Good ol' kinetic artillery for ships. They launch an explosive payload with no/minimal guidance (Excalibur?) after firing to impact and detonate on a target. Can be turreted.
To differentiate from lasers, they can use ammo placed in a magazine like missiles. Can have bore size researches, barrel length researches (both could affect tonnage), and also reliant on missile warhead research for damage. They can also show up as interceptable like missiles do, but they move their full length for their first tick on spawn unlike missiles that spawn on top of your ships for the first tick.
They also don't use energy and are reliant on a reloading tech for fire rate.
To differentiate from lasers, they can use ammo placed in a magazine like missiles. Can have bore size researches, barrel length researches (both could affect tonnage), and also reliant on missile warhead research for damage. They can also show up as interceptable like missiles do, but they move their full length for their first tick on spawn unlike missiles that spawn on top of your ships for the first tick.
They also don't use energy and are reliant on a reloading tech for fire rate.
Posted by: paolot
« on: Yesterday at 02:19:16 PM »Can we have a very, very high level technology (let's say, 5 million RPs) that can turns one material into another?
E.g., 200 Duranium or Boronide into 1 Uridium or 2 Corundium or 1 Gallicite, etc...
It doesn't resolve the scarcity of rare materials, but can help to build some installation or finish some ordnance or ship.
E.g., 200 Duranium or Boronide into 1 Uridium or 2 Corundium or 1 Gallicite, etc...
It doesn't resolve the scarcity of rare materials, but can help to build some installation or finish some ordnance or ship.
Posted by: lumporr
« on: Yesterday at 10:23:00 AM »In combat fleets with many ships, not all of those with damaged engines are automatically detached. It can be tedious to then manually detach all the ships that are slowing the entire formation to a crawl, in a list of hundreds. Would it be possible to add a "Detach Damaged" button? Or is there some mechanic already implemented that I'm missing?
Posted by: paolot
« on: July 05, 2025, 02:40:30 PM »Two suggestions for the Class Design window.
1. For each component type, could we have the possibility to order the components in different ways, e.g., from older to younger ones, or according to their capability?
The alphabetic order we have now can be confusing sometimes. E.g., for MFCs: I developed FC103-R20, FC103-R5, etc., up to FC164-R20 that are now listed before than FC17-R1, but they have much longer ranges than the last one, so I would like this last one be the first in the list.
Other examples are for missile launchers or for shields.
2. I don't remember which is the most capable between Advanced Damage Control vs. Improved Damage Control, and go to check them in the Research tab. Would it be possible to add the capability of the components in their description box (as already done for geo and grav sensors)?
Other modules could be terraforming one and orbital mining: the capability appears in the class description, when the module is added to the class.
1. For each component type, could we have the possibility to order the components in different ways, e.g., from older to younger ones, or according to their capability?
The alphabetic order we have now can be confusing sometimes. E.g., for MFCs: I developed FC103-R20, FC103-R5, etc., up to FC164-R20 that are now listed before than FC17-R1, but they have much longer ranges than the last one, so I would like this last one be the first in the list.
Other examples are for missile launchers or for shields.
2. I don't remember which is the most capable between Advanced Damage Control vs. Improved Damage Control, and go to check them in the Research tab. Would it be possible to add the capability of the components in their description box (as already done for geo and grav sensors)?
Other modules could be terraforming one and orbital mining: the capability appears in the class description, when the module is added to the class.
Posted by: skoormit
« on: July 05, 2025, 07:11:16 AM »Suggestion:
On the Logistics Report tab of the Naval Organization window, add two new reports:
Report: Armour Status.
Lists all ships with damaged armor.
Includes columns for:
number of damaged armor blocks
armor percent remaining
Report: Components Damaged.
Lists all ships with damaged components.
Includes columns for:
number of damaged components
total cost of damaged components
max cost of damaged components
MSP remaining on ship (raw number)
MSP remaining on ship (pct of ship's capacity)
On the Logistics Report tab of the Naval Organization window, add two new reports:
Report: Armour Status.
Lists all ships with damaged armor.
Includes columns for:
number of damaged armor blocks
armor percent remaining
Report: Components Damaged.
Lists all ships with damaged components.
Includes columns for:
number of damaged components
total cost of damaged components
max cost of damaged components
MSP remaining on ship (raw number)
MSP remaining on ship (pct of ship's capacity)
Posted by: nuclearslurpee
« on: July 04, 2025, 03:25:59 PM »Suggestion: in the System Generation and Display window: when a Gas Giant or Superjovian planet is selected, the Create Colony button should create a DSP (rather than doing nothing as it does currently).
This is a somewhat easier and less finicky way to create DSPs at gas giants than the current method of zooming in close enough to ensure that you click the right thing.
This is a somewhat easier and less finicky way to create DSPs at gas giants than the current method of zooming in close enough to ensure that you click the right thing.
Posted by: Ghostly
« on: July 04, 2025, 03:11:20 PM »I dont really think "for the sake of" can apply when it comes to a role playing game though. If you get me? Like why is the Story character check box there? Its to build stories around Officers, I personally get great enjoyment out of seeing the histories and it adds so much to the RP side, but even gameplay wise when you start out you have loads of officers with nowhere to go. so over time they die or retire and before you know it around early/mid game you are left with nobody in any senior positions. Yes you can promote but the lack of history messes with the RP. Maybe its my playstyle I play at 20% tech with no starting ships because i enjoy the slow burn and other players might build loads of ships with the starting points and give them a good head start. I dont like that though I want to crawl out of the starting system.
Senior officers dying off vaguely sounds like a problem from older versions of the game?.. Now you're able to create extensive naval hierarchies on day 1 and always have as many high-ranked officers as you desire, as the game will auto-promote to fill any vacancy. I understand your desire to have many officers before you have a large navy though, and that's why I like the miscellaneous command component solution, as it allows that option without encumbering any beginner player with a plethora of seemingly relevant officer positions that actually do nothing. Either that, or a game setting for additional positions would work just fine.
Ground forces are a bit more difficult in that regard, you either need small baseline formations, smaller amount of formations below each higher level HQ or a damned lot of GFCCs if you want to get your hierarchies close to top rank, but like large and detailed naval rosters, it also takes time. Ultimately I think there's plenty of RP possibilities in the game already, and while I'd love to see a few extra steps in my Grand Admiral's brilliant career as he rose through the ranks since enlisting as a chief cook on the SS Rustbucket, if I had to choose, I'd prefer getting more officer positions through functional modules that benefit the gameplay as well.
Posted by: Ush213
« on: July 04, 2025, 10:08:21 AM »I don't think adding officers for the sake of adding officers is a good idea if they're not functional, that'd just result in unnecessary bloat and make your roster harder to navigate. All the lower officer positions are abstracted with unnamed NCOs anyway and it'd be weird to have named officers occupy and leave them as they please (i.e. whenever a new assignment for them is created) without any impact on ship performance whatsoever. I like detailed assignment histories myself but they tend to happen naturally as your game grows older, mine currently has ~2700 naval officers, many of which have served on 4 or 5 different ships during their careers.
Player-designed command components sound interesting, and I think it'd be nice to have an option to have miscellaneous officers with your miscellaneous components, however making them actually apply their bonuses would be a natural next step, and I'm not sure how easy would that be code-wise, or balance-wise (let's say their efficacy would depend on component size, would we use the 1 HS AUX or the 4 HS PFC as a baseline?). So I think miscellaneous command posts would make for a fine roleplaying addition, but the actual, functional command modules are best left as dedicated, researchable components.
I dont really think "for the sake of" can apply when it comes to a role playing game though. If you get me? Like why is the Story character check box there? Its to build stories around Officers, I personally get great enjoyment out of seeing the histories and it adds so much to the RP side, but even gameplay wise when you start out you have loads of officers with nowhere to go. so over time they die or retire and before you know it around early/mid game you are left with nobody in any senior positions. Yes you can promote but the lack of history messes with the RP. Maybe its my playstyle I play at 20% tech with no starting ships because i enjoy the slow burn and other players might build loads of ships with the starting points and give them a good head start. I dont like that though I want to crawl out of the starting system.
I have managed to sort of fix my Navy officers issue by simply adding all the available modules into my ships designs. This is inefficient I know but its working for me. I also create detailed command hierachies which helps. I have the same problem with the Ground officers to and I still need to get better with ground forces but i havnt had full game since the ground force templates was added. So this might be solved already because i can template loads of training regiments or construction regiments early on, but I was enjoying my current game to much when it came out so i never ended up starting a new one.
Like It would be cool if their bonuses applied in some way but all I was saying that if it would cause balancing issues id be happy to see them not in other to see the suggestion happen.
The suggestion is also really just RP for me. I want more places so i dont have to put unnessary modules in my ships and by just playing the game you get a steady stream of officer promotions that keep up with an average paced gamestyle and I suppose i dont really see the need to stack more bonuses on ships when there are already so many ways to add them through the Navy command tab.
To come at it from the other side I wonder if there is a risk to having to many promotions happen and so your left with nobody in the middle ha
I like the Mis component idea also. You could use it to create officer training fleets also basically just bricks with loads of officer positions. ha
Posted by: Ghostly
« on: July 04, 2025, 03:09:16 AM »I don't think adding officers for the sake of adding officers is a good idea if they're not functional, that'd just result in unnecessary bloat and make your roster harder to navigate. All the lower officer positions are abstracted with unnamed NCOs anyway and it'd be weird to have named officers occupy and leave them as they please (i.e. whenever a new assignment for them is created) without any impact on ship performance whatsoever. I like detailed assignment histories myself but they tend to happen naturally as your game grows older, mine currently has ~2700 naval officers, many of which have served on 4 or 5 different ships during their careers.
Player-designed command components sound interesting, and I think it'd be nice to have an option to have miscellaneous officers with your miscellaneous components, however making them actually apply their bonuses would be a natural next step, and I'm not sure how easy would that be code-wise, or balance-wise (let's say their efficacy would depend on component size, would we use the 1 HS AUX or the 4 HS PFC as a baseline?). So I think miscellaneous command posts would make for a fine roleplaying addition, but the actual, functional command modules are best left as dedicated, researchable components.
Of what C&C modules to add, there's not many that come to mind. By far the most necessary ones, in my opinion, are ones affecting the ship's strike group's Reaction and Fighter Combat. More on this here, but in short, there's no way for fighters to actually take advantage of either of these bonuses en masse, while the former can often make or break a fight, and the latter being useless simply feels like a waste.
A similar module affecting the ship's boarding troops (or even the ship's strike group's boarding troops) would probably be interesting as well? Could be an interesting exercise in having GU commanders operate on ships too, could be extended into a full-blown Ground Force Headquarters module as part of the GU hierarchy.
A military-only Logistics module could be useful for massive combat ships that take many days to resupply, as a compact alternative or a supplement to cargo shuttle bays. This sounds dangerously close to the previously-proposed indsutrial command modules that Steve decided against, as adding them to a design would be a no-brainer, but making this module military-only would relegate it to a rather narrow capital ship role. Could affect ordnance transfer rates as well, I suppose? But that's about the extent of my imagination as of now.
Huge, huge YES for Missile Series and System Governors, I would even speak in favor of adding a Sub-Sector Command as an early-game low-range (1-2 jumps max) command building and an Empire Command as a late-game empire-wide command builiding, while relaxing the necessary installation amount for large sectors to make the Sector->Sub-Sector transition work better. The NAC system we have now is awesome in how detailed the hierarchy can get, and I'd love to have something similar for civilian administrators.
Tour lengths coming back would be very nice, but clicking the naval reassignment button once every so often provides the same result. I agree that having it happen automatically would feel more natural, but only if adding exemptions (per-ship and possibly per-class) is possible too. As for multi-planetary army groups, I've never been in a situation where I'd want to maintain a massive army on several planets in the same system at once, but having some way of extending the GU hierarchy into space would be interesting, perhaps with a possible GFHQ ship module previously mentioned.
Player-designed command components sound interesting, and I think it'd be nice to have an option to have miscellaneous officers with your miscellaneous components, however making them actually apply their bonuses would be a natural next step, and I'm not sure how easy would that be code-wise, or balance-wise (let's say their efficacy would depend on component size, would we use the 1 HS AUX or the 4 HS PFC as a baseline?). So I think miscellaneous command posts would make for a fine roleplaying addition, but the actual, functional command modules are best left as dedicated, researchable components.
Of what C&C modules to add, there's not many that come to mind. By far the most necessary ones, in my opinion, are ones affecting the ship's strike group's Reaction and Fighter Combat. More on this here, but in short, there's no way for fighters to actually take advantage of either of these bonuses en masse, while the former can often make or break a fight, and the latter being useless simply feels like a waste.
A similar module affecting the ship's boarding troops (or even the ship's strike group's boarding troops) would probably be interesting as well? Could be an interesting exercise in having GU commanders operate on ships too, could be extended into a full-blown Ground Force Headquarters module as part of the GU hierarchy.
A military-only Logistics module could be useful for massive combat ships that take many days to resupply, as a compact alternative or a supplement to cargo shuttle bays. This sounds dangerously close to the previously-proposed indsutrial command modules that Steve decided against, as adding them to a design would be a no-brainer, but making this module military-only would relegate it to a rather narrow capital ship role. Could affect ordnance transfer rates as well, I suppose? But that's about the extent of my imagination as of now.
- System Governor as another Admin level between sector and planet.
- Return of Tour lengths for automated assignments. So captains can have a couple ships underneath them before assuming a flag rank or Junior Officers can experience support/fighter and other roles before getting a major command
- Ground Force Admin Commands as beyond the Division level, it's impractical to create HQ units and the user may want to spread the Corps or Army Group between multiple bodies in the same system.
- Ability to retrain officers from Fleet/Army/Admin/Science to another type of officer, Mostly for Roleplay or to quickly increase officer numbers in one category. i.e. your overmanned on Administrators but have a pressing need for ground force commanders or your ground forces are small and you need to find a propulsion MacGyver among your grunts.
- Ability to designate a Fleet/Ground positions ± 1/2 rank for assignment would be a welcomed addition.
- Reintroduction of Staff Officers for admin commands. maybe just 2 positions but you choose the boni they will provide.
- Reintroduction of Missile Series system
Huge, huge YES for Missile Series and System Governors, I would even speak in favor of adding a Sub-Sector Command as an early-game low-range (1-2 jumps max) command building and an Empire Command as a late-game empire-wide command builiding, while relaxing the necessary installation amount for large sectors to make the Sector->Sub-Sector transition work better. The NAC system we have now is awesome in how detailed the hierarchy can get, and I'd love to have something similar for civilian administrators.
Tour lengths coming back would be very nice, but clicking the naval reassignment button once every so often provides the same result. I agree that having it happen automatically would feel more natural, but only if adding exemptions (per-ship and possibly per-class) is possible too. As for multi-planetary army groups, I've never been in a situation where I'd want to maintain a massive army on several planets in the same system at once, but having some way of extending the GU hierarchy into space would be interesting, perhaps with a possible GFHQ ship module previously mentioned.
Posted by: Aloriel
« on: July 03, 2025, 07:47:58 AM »My thought on the same subject was that custom components could have an optional officer slot, and even potentially an associated skill. We have to design them as a tech, and these two adjustments could be part of that design phase.
Posted by: Ush213
« on: July 03, 2025, 04:57:40 AM »Just on officers. Is it possible to get a few more stations for them, or maybe increase the number of positions in the current modules.
I tend to really like having detailed historys on my officers so i like to see them rising through the ranks.
more slots for positions would allow this. I usally end up just adding all the modules to my ships now just to make the positions available. I also make sure to have academies on every colony as i like to see officers from different homeworlds.
Purly for roleplaying but sure isnt that the aim of the game ha.
Perhaps it could be based on tonnage. For example a 500 ton fighter has 1 pilot but a 1000T FAC has Caption a Gunner and Helmans and so on.
I dont know how the existing modules are programed so what i say above is only for a conversation purposes really. If it was easiler to do something else im all for it.
I've Suggested something similar over the years.
Link:
https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=10640.msg158509#msg158509
https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13020.msg163378#msg163378
If its been requested a few times then and not implemented it means there is more involved to implement it or it will cause issues with other systems or its just not in Steve's eyeline. Which is fair enough.
But If it was a bonus balancing issues I would be prefectly happy excluding any addtional bonuses more officers would cause. I want it purely for RP reasons, Career history,Medals ,Career XP and natural promotions. I like seeing that the Grand Admiral of my fleet started out as simple Fighter Pilot that worked his way up with loads of medals from command of a varity of ships.
I seen on some of your posts also that other players have issues with having enough officers, so it would be cool also if the additional officer slots had a lower priority then the main ones like Captain or whatever. This would help prevent an officer being put into a useless RP role where they could have been better used commanding a war ship.
I dont know if its possible but if you take the bridge module for example with one slot for Captain. Could it be changed to allow up to say 3 slots with decending priority. Captain,Helmsman and Navigator for example. The last two dont provide any additonal bonuses and would only be filled if all other Captain slots in the fleet had been filled.
The other modules would have similar like Science Officer, Junior Science Officer etc/
Senior Army officers are generally always an issue for me also but I thinks thats becuase i leave Army build up to late. I usually have 100s of the lowest rank army officer with nothing above. I know i can just promote but RP wise i dislike this, mostly because of the aformentioned lack of history ha.
Posted by: papent
« on: July 02, 2025, 02:55:04 PM »Just on officers. Is it possible to get a few more stations for them, or maybe increase the number of positions in the current modules.
I tend to really like having detailed historys on my officers so i like to see them rising through the ranks.
more slots for positions would allow this. I usally end up just adding all the modules to my ships now just to make the positions available. I also make sure to have academies on every colony as i like to see officers from different homeworlds.
Purly for roleplaying but sure isnt that the aim of the game ha.
Perhaps it could be based on tonnage. For example a 500 ton fighter has 1 pilot but a 1000T FAC has Caption a Gunner and Helmans and so on.
I dont know how the existing modules are programed so what i say above is only for a conversation purposes really. If it was easiler to do something else im all for it.
I've Suggested something similar over the years.
Link:
https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=10640.msg158509#msg158509
https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13020.msg163378#msg163378
Basically it boils down to the following:
Quote
A minor suggestion and an expansion of the Misc component Idea
Miscellaneous Ship Officer Stations
You design the components on the Create Research Projects window by:
Choosing a size (from 1 HS to 10)
giving the component a name
Choosing an Officer Type ( Naval, Ground, Admin, Scientist)
Choosing an Officer Skill That will be the Primary selection Criteria
For Naval/Ground/Admin only: Rank Required
- Cost is equal to size in HS and the mineral requirements are split between 20% Duranium and 80% Corbomite.
- The HTK is equal to the square root of the size.
- The officer improves the skill required by the ship station up to 1% or 1 per year per HTK of the component.
two example Officer StationsCode: [Select]Internal Security Control
Cost 100 Size 100 tons Crew 15 HTK 1
Officer: Ground Force Officer
Rank: Major
Skill: Ground Combat Defence
Base Chance to hit 100%
Materials Required: Duranium 20 Corbomite 80Code: [Select]Civil Logistic Liaison
Cost 200 Size 200 tons Crew 30 HTK 2
Officer: Civilian Administrator
Rank: Admin Rating 1
Skill: Logistics
Base Chance to hit 100%
Materials Required: Duranium 40 Corbomite 160
Posted by: Ush213
« on: July 01, 2025, 03:32:27 PM »Just on officers. Is it possible to get a few more stations for them, or maybe increase the number of positions in the current modules.
I tend to really like having detailed historys on my officers so i like to see them rising through the ranks.
more slots for positions would allow this. I usally end up just adding all the modules to my ships now just to make the positions available. I also make sure to have academies on every colony as i like to see officers from different homeworlds.
Purly for roleplaying but sure isnt that the aim of the game ha.
Perhaps it could be based on tonnage. For example a 500 ton fighter has 1 pilot but a 1000T FAC has Caption a Gunner and Helmans and so on.
I dont know how the existing modules are programed so what i say above is only for a conversation purposes really. If it was easiler to do something else im all for it.
I tend to really like having detailed historys on my officers so i like to see them rising through the ranks.
more slots for positions would allow this. I usally end up just adding all the modules to my ships now just to make the positions available. I also make sure to have academies on every colony as i like to see officers from different homeworlds.
Purly for roleplaying but sure isnt that the aim of the game ha.
Perhaps it could be based on tonnage. For example a 500 ton fighter has 1 pilot but a 1000T FAC has Caption a Gunner and Helmans and so on.
I dont know how the existing modules are programed so what i say above is only for a conversation purposes really. If it was easiler to do something else im all for it.
