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Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: Yesterday at 08:07:41 PM »

Quote from: nuclearslurpee on Yesterday at 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Froggiest1982 on Yesterday at 04:59:24 PM
Quote from: nuclearslurpee on Yesterday at 07:27:38 AM
Quote from: blue emu on Yesterday at 02:45:15 AM
I've built a bunch of Decoy reloads (for my ship's decoy launchers) on Earth. But they won't load into my Ammo Tenders.

I can design a ship that has hundreds of Decoy Launchers, and just load the launchers on Earth and unload them on the destination planet... but is there a simpler way of getting replacement Decoys to the battle-front?

Unfortunately there is not. It is on the to-do list but I have yet to see an ETA for a solution to this one.

Following this https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13090.msg164759#msg164759 I don't think such a solution was never in the cards.

They are WAI like Box Launchers, so you have to reload them in an hangar or at a colony.

If we compare these to CHAFF systems, it makes sense.

The problem is transporting decoy missiles between populations. Regular missiles may be transported by magazines regardless of what kind of launcher they will be fired from. Decoy missiles cannot, which is a problem.

I see what you mean, but that is just a bug with a simple workaround.

You design your Replenishment ship adding decoys launchers to load the template of Decoys required.

Once you remove the decoy launchers, the amount of decoys to be loaded will still be there and you will be able to load and unload decoys without any problem using the load and unload ordnance order.

I am so used to it that I forgot there was this bug still  ;D
Posted by: nuclearslurpee
« on: Yesterday at 06:27:20 PM »

Quote from: Froggiest1982 on Yesterday at 04:59:24 PM
Quote from: nuclearslurpee on Yesterday at 07:27:38 AM
Quote from: blue emu on Yesterday at 02:45:15 AM
I've built a bunch of Decoy reloads (for my ship's decoy launchers) on Earth. But they won't load into my Ammo Tenders.

I can design a ship that has hundreds of Decoy Launchers, and just load the launchers on Earth and unload them on the destination planet... but is there a simpler way of getting replacement Decoys to the battle-front?

Unfortunately there is not. It is on the to-do list but I have yet to see an ETA for a solution to this one.

Following this https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13090.msg164759#msg164759 I don't think such a solution was never in the cards.

They are WAI like Box Launchers, so you have to reload them in an hangar or at a colony.

If we compare these to CHAFF systems, it makes sense.

The problem is transporting decoy missiles between populations. Regular missiles may be transported by magazines regardless of what kind of launcher they will be fired from. Decoy missiles cannot, which is a problem.
Posted by: Froggiest1982
« on: Yesterday at 04:59:24 PM »

Quote from: nuclearslurpee on Yesterday at 07:27:38 AM
Quote from: blue emu on Yesterday at 02:45:15 AM
I've built a bunch of Decoy reloads (for my ship's decoy launchers) on Earth. But they won't load into my Ammo Tenders.

I can design a ship that has hundreds of Decoy Launchers, and just load the launchers on Earth and unload them on the destination planet... but is there a simpler way of getting replacement Decoys to the battle-front?

Unfortunately there is not. It is on the to-do list but I have yet to see an ETA for a solution to this one.

Following this https://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?topic=13090.msg164759#msg164759 I don't think such a solution was never in the cards.

They are WAI like Box Launchers, so you have to reload them in an hangar or at a colony.

If we compare these to CHAFF systems, it makes sense.
Posted by: nuclearslurpee
« on: Yesterday at 07:27:38 AM »

Quote from: blue emu on Yesterday at 02:45:15 AM
I've built a bunch of Decoy reloads (for my ship's decoy launchers) on Earth. But they won't load into my Ammo Tenders.

I can design a ship that has hundreds of Decoy Launchers, and just load the launchers on Earth and unload them on the destination planet... but is there a simpler way of getting replacement Decoys to the battle-front?

Unfortunately there is not. It is on the to-do list but I have yet to see an ETA for a solution to this one.
Posted by: blue emu
« on: Yesterday at 02:45:15 AM »

I've built a bunch of Decoy reloads (for my ship's decoy launchers) on Earth. But they won't load into my Ammo Tenders.

I can design a ship that has hundreds of Decoy Launchers, and just load the launchers on Earth and unload them on the destination planet... but is there a simpler way of getting replacement Decoys to the battle-front?
Posted by: Ghostly
« on: July 07, 2025, 11:52:15 AM »

Quote from: mobody on July 07, 2025, 09:28:48 AM
Can someone help me with a proper design for mines?

I designed a two stage missile. The first stage has no engine and sensors and the second stage just has the engine and a warhead. I tried laying them by creating a waypoint and targeting it but I'm not sure that that's going to work.
What I want to happen is that these second stage rockets start firing when a hostile ship approaches.
Is such a behaviour even possible in Aurora?

Also, is there a way to mark one of your ships as hostile in order to use it as shooting practice? Or is there any other way to test out a ship's combat performance?

The answer to both of your questions is the "Designate as Target" checkbox in the Misc tab of the Ship Overview section in the Naval window. You can use it both for target practice and to test your two-stage mines, though the designated ship's PD won't work against them. But from your description, they should work just fine. For more info, check here and here.
Posted by: mobody
« on: July 07, 2025, 09:28:48 AM »

Can someone help me with a proper design for mines?

I designed a two stage missile. The first stage has no engine and sensors and the second stage just has the engine and a warhead. I tried laying them by creating a waypoint and targeting it but I'm not sure that that's going to work.
What I want to happen is that these second stage rockets start firing when a hostile ship approaches.
Is such a behaviour even possible in Aurora?

Also, is there a way to mark one of your ships as hostile in order to use it as shooting practice? Or is there any other way to test out a ship's combat performance?
Posted by: skoormit
« on: July 07, 2025, 03:32:12 AM »

Quote from: paolot on July 06, 2025, 02:08:55 PM
Please, can you share some examples of stations that you place at DSPs (far from planets)?
Do you prefer one large behemoth, filled with sensors, missiles, guns, refuelling capacity, MSP, hangar, etc.? or few smaller bases, each one specialised for one or two missions (that can be built in parallel, and each one easily moved by one tug)?

For commercial stations (to be built without yards), I prefer each class fulfills one role, and I'll build different sizes for each role.
So I might have a small maintenance station with 2 modules, a medium one with 10 modules, and a large one with 50 modules. With scaling MSP storage.
And a similar array of fuel stations. And commercial hangar stations. Etc.

For military stations to be garrisoned off-colony, I usually make a 10kt design crammed with box launchers and an active sensor appropriate to support ASM fire.
60month deployment time is preferred, but I expect these to be stationed alongside maintenance bases, so I won't add nearly as much eng spaces as I would for a long-deployment ship.
Posted by: Garfunkel
« on: July 06, 2025, 07:32:15 PM »

Mine are always modular. Faster to build and makes it easier to tailor the 'base' to what the mission needs.
Posted by: paolot
« on: July 06, 2025, 02:08:55 PM »

Please, can you share some examples of stations that you place at DSPs (far from planets)?
Do you prefer one large behemoth, filled with sensors, missiles, guns, refuelling capacity, MSP, hangar, etc.? or few smaller bases, each one specialised for one or two missions (that can be built in parallel, and each one easily moved by one tug)?
Posted by: alex_brunius
« on: July 05, 2025, 03:22:17 AM »

Quote from: nuclearslurpee on July 03, 2025, 07:21:24 PM
Intuitively, I think players expect a decoy to "look like" the ship it's decoying from, i.e., to have the same signature. I can see why the actual mechanic is different, as its more flexible and less micromanage-y than requiring exact size matching (plus avoid issues with ship sizes that aren't nice, round numbers), but the fact that an infinite swarm of size-5 decoys is arguably optimal (same performance and cost as any other option, maximum flexibility) seems to eliminate what could/should be a gameplay decision point.

I don't agree smaller decoys are always optimal. For when your facing negligable missile threats smaller sized decoys mean ships with standard settings will always launch some decoys even against tricklefire from AMMs that your PD or Shields can shrug off which adds cost (or alot micro if you want to turn it off situationally).

For larger decoys it's much easier to have a sensible cut-off setting so that for negligable threats with fewer incoming MSP then 0 decoys will be launched, while still ensuring all decoys will be launched against that deadly alpha strike.
Posted by: nuclearslurpee
« on: July 04, 2025, 05:27:12 PM »

Quote from: AdamantineAxe on July 04, 2025, 05:18:41 PM
Can player races resurvey a system if they suspect a dormant jump point?

I assumed you had to wait until you could have a sensor detect another race's ship transit through the suspected dormant jump point.

Yes, it was added a while ago, although you were always able to manually resurvey a specific location, IIRC.

Quote from: EclipsedStar on July 04, 2025, 05:22:00 PM
Do you mean literally resurveying jump points

This one.
Posted by: EclipsedStar
« on: July 04, 2025, 05:22:00 PM »

Do you mean literally resurveying jump points/celestial bodies, or do you mean having a ship fly around each body with sensors active to see if anyone's 'home'?
Posted by: AdamantineAxe
« on: July 04, 2025, 05:18:41 PM »

Can player races resurvey a system if they suspect a dormant jump point?

I assumed you had to wait until you could have a sensor detect another race's ship transit through the suspected dormant jump point.
Posted by: nuclearslurpee
« on: July 04, 2025, 02:45:40 PM »

A repeat of an earlier, unanswered question: Do NPRs ever get suspicious of a dormant jump point and conduct resurveys of their systems? Asking for a friend(ly battlefleet)...