Just ask him to add an SM function to unlock it, like you had it captured, and then you can research it normally
Less work, and in RP campaigns you use those functions anyways.
Maybe what would resolve this issue without damage to anyone's needs is to divide technologies into 'lines' and allow selection of the tech lines the player (and standard NPCs?) have access to on game setup.
For example, there would be the 'Base' line that everyone would get, and in addition assorted 'advanced/divergent' tech lines that at present are only acquired by salvage/discovery.
The advantage is that if you wanted to play a remnant of the Precursors fighting their way back, you could do. In theory, several tech options could be developed, such as 'ramming tech' and the desire/will to use it.
Sounds about right. I think that was when Steve established a lot of the TN technobabble.Quote from: "welchbloke"I wrote the bulk of that page; however, I actaully cut and pasted from one of Steve's responses to a thread. I didn't change the thrust of Steve's comments. That is not to say that Steve may not have changed his mind by now
That feels like it came out of the Preservation campaigns.
True, it's a commentary reply to the wish of having all tech paths available to the player from the start. Had it been an arguement I'd have detailed why I disagree.QuoteI'm definetly in the camp that not everything should be available to the player at game start.That, sadly, is not even an argument.
I think it's bad that players have access to elusive stuff like Mesons, but advanced technology or PTs or the like need you to find them first.Part of this goes back to when Steve first introduced the Precursers to the game. He wanted certain tech lines that were Precurser race specific and players would only have access by either salvaging a Precurser wreck of finding it in a ruin.
Why can't you start with some of that, but drastically lack in something else.Steve's answer in the past has been that it's easier to code. He may change his mind in the future when it's a feature he wants.
Why is the only effective choice you have to play with human technology, or at least point of view, no matter what you name your race?See above
I think a race starting in a nebula should not have access to missile engine research, why would they ever think of it?See above
BTT:
While were at it, weird hybrid weapons, a Beam weapon that has a limited amount of shots before Hangar Reload, like Box launchers.
Also, could someone sum up what is the actual gameplay sense of this suggestion?Is this linked to the item above or those below?
A beam weapon with long range accuracy?Been covered in detail recently
A new weapon of the PT kind?Isn't that what this topic is covering?
Beams requiring Ammo?Such as??
I wrote the bulk of that page; however, I actaully cut and pasted from one of Steve's responses to a thread. I didn't change the thrust of Steve's comments. That is not to say that Steve may not have changed his mind by now
WikiThank you for thinking to look there. I was thinking it was from one of Steve's fictions, which would have been a bitch to find
Also, could someone sum up what is the actual gameplay sense of this suggestion?
A beam weapon with long range accuracy?
A new weapon of the PT kind?
Beams requiring Ammo?
I'm definetly in the camp that not everything should be available to the player at game start.That, sadly, is not even an argument.
I wrote the bulk of that page; however, I actaully cut and pasted from one of Steve's responses to a thread. I didn't change the thrust of Steve's comments. That is not to say that Steve may not have changed his mind by nowQuote from: "Zorgn"Quote from: "Charlie Beeler"Again, what drag. What is source.Quote from: "AuroraWiki"Once in the possession of sufficient quantities of the minerals, the scientists discovered the minerals somehow intruded into the space-time of the alternate dimension and that spacecraft built from these elements would be affected by some of the physical laws of that universe. They theorized that this would allow spacecraft to turn in space like ships in water but it would also quickly slow them to a stop if their engines ceased operating.Wiki
I think that's his drag, which makes some sense to me. You'd have to fire your space bullet at incredible speeds to have it get anywhere, and I'd expect it to lose damage in the long run due to lessening speed unless it's explosive or something unusual. So basically normal railguns with a guidance package and possible boosting of the damage dealt at closer ranges. :shrug:
That particular wiki page was not written by Steve. I'm not saying it is wrong, I'm just saying it may not be 100% accurate.
Quote from: "Charlie Beeler"Again, what drag. What is source.Quote from: "AuroraWiki"Once in the possession of sufficient quantities of the minerals, the scientists discovered the minerals somehow intruded into the space-time of the alternate dimension and that spacecraft built from these elements would be affected by some of the physical laws of that universe. They theorized that this would allow spacecraft to turn in space like ships in water but it would also quickly slow them to a stop if their engines ceased operating.Wiki
I think that's his drag, which makes some sense to me. You'd have to fire your space bullet at incredible speeds to have it get anywhere, and I'd expect it to lose damage in the long run due to lessening speed unless it's explosive or something unusual. So basically normal railguns with a guidance package and possible boosting of the damage dealt at closer ranges. :shrug:
Again, what drag. What is source.
Once in the possession of sufficient quantities of the minerals, the scientists discovered the minerals somehow intruded into the space-time of the alternate dimension and that spacecraft built from these elements would be affected by some of the physical laws of that universe. They theorized that this would allow spacecraft to turn in space like ships in water but it would also quickly slow them to a stop if their engines ceased operating.Wiki
Quote from: "Charlie Beeler"Outside of a nebula, within the scope of the game there isn't a reason for this degridation.
I don't see putting warp drives on regular missiles as a doable thing, so there isn't a reason for the max speed on missiles (other then balance), other then "trans newtonian drag".
The main reason is for flavour though, as it would add a new level of defense/offense that would become more severe the closer fleets got to each other. I know this already happens to an extent with lasers, but this would be longer ranged.
To summarize
Guided mass drivers
-requires ammunition (less then missiles)
-in game would be medium-short to medium-long ranged (would have to be balanced)
-would have a variable initial launch velocity and variable drag. (perhaps a technology for each)
-range is based off of launch velocity and drag (self terminating once velocity reaches zero)
-cyclic rate would probably use capacitor recharge like missiles
-either seperate or built in power plant (whatever seems appropriate to steve)
-would require missile fire control
