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C# Aurora => General Discussion => Topic started by: idefelipe on April 17, 2020, 05:08:48 AM

Title: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: idefelipe on April 17, 2020, 05:08:48 AM
Hey there.

I read this in the Changes List. :

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Once the orbital survey of a system body is completed, the potential for a further ground survey will be revealed (None, Minimal, Low, Good, High, Excellent). The ground survey requires the same survey points as the orbital survey, except they are generated by ground forces. Only system bodies with a diameter of at least 4000 km will be eligible for a ground-based survey (in Sol that is Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ganymede, Callisto and Titan).

But.. where is revealed that "potential for a further ground survey"?
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: gor on April 17, 2020, 05:11:15 AM
It is on summary Page on the economics screen
or you can find out that on system view also.  :)
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: idefelipe on April 17, 2020, 05:23:12 AM
I think I am blind.. I cant see it. Could you take a pic?

Thanks a bunch!!
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: Black on April 17, 2020, 05:47:45 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/qjYk2qt/ground-geo.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: idefelipe on April 17, 2020, 05:49:34 AM
So it is that small number!!

I understand that:

0 - None

1 - Minimal

2 - Low

3 - Good

4 - High

5 - Excelent

 ???
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: Black on April 17, 2020, 05:53:06 AM
Yes I believe so, in my case Venus had minimal potential and the ground team found 1mil. of accessibility 1 Sorium.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: smoelf on April 17, 2020, 05:57:06 AM
There is also an event message if they find a body with ground survey potential.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: idefelipe on April 17, 2020, 06:21:47 AM
And if the planet was surveyed and nothing was found... can it be groundsurveyed and find anything? because it does not show any number.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: smoelf on April 17, 2020, 06:26:19 AM
And if the planet was surveyed and nothing was found... can it be groundsurveyed and find anything? because it does not show any number.

Not sure, but I think there is a high chance, that it doesn't have a ground survey potential if your survey ship doesn't find anything at all.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: Black on April 17, 2020, 06:29:29 AM
And if the planet was surveyed and nothing was found... can it be groundsurveyed and find anything? because it does not show any number.

If there is no potential (number) then there is no reason to send ground teams, they will find nothing. According to Steve, there is about 1 or 2 bodies with potential per system. Some more info from Steve:

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The chances that an eligible body (4000 km diameter) will have ground survey potential is equal to:
None 60%, Minimal 20%, Low 10%, Good 6%, High 3%, Excellent 1%.

I dont think that it is possible to have body with no minerals generated to have potential for ground survey.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: Ri0Rdian on April 17, 2020, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: Black link=topic=10819. msg124446#msg124446 date=1587122969

If there is no potential (number) then there is no reason to send ground teams, they will find nothing.  According to Steve, there is about 1 or 2 bodies with potential per system.  Some more info from Steve:

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The chances that an eligible body (4000 km diameter) will have ground survey potential is equal to:
None 60%, Minimal 20%, Low 10%, Good 6%, High 3%, Excellent 1%.

I dont think that it is possible to have body with no minerals generated to have potential for ground survey.

That would be excellent change, sending teams to each body was tedious (even though teams were quite a bit easier to manage than current system).
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: idefelipe on April 18, 2020, 04:45:15 AM
I have created my first geosurvey dettachment

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12 Geosurvey Team (VEH - GEO)
32 Rifleman (INF - PW)
10 Logistic Trucks (INF - LOGS)
4 Humvee (LVH - CAP)
1 HQ Company (INF - HQ)

And they are landed in Venus (M2)... what's next? I have clicked on the button [Active ON] and now it shows an (A) next to the name. But I dont know if that is what must be done to start the geosurvey work..

Could you help me?
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: Black on April 18, 2020, 04:47:01 AM
You just drop them on the body with geosurvey potential and then wait, they automatically generate survey points same as geosurvey sensors.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: smoelf on April 18, 2020, 04:48:27 AM
I have created my first geosurvey dettachment

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12 Geosurvey Team (VEH - GEO)
32 Rifleman (INF - PW)
10 Logistic Trucks (INF - LOGS)
4 Humvee (LVH - CAP)
1 HQ Company (INF - HQ)

And they are landed in Venus (M2)... what's next? I have clicked on the button [Active ON] and now it shows an (A) next to the name. But I dont know if that is what must be done to start the geosurvey work..

Could you help me?

Geo surveys happen automatically. They accrue points every construction phase until the planetary body is surveyed. As the for [Active ON] that turn on an active sensor which is only used for combat. You don't need to activate a geo survey team.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: SpaceMarine on April 18, 2020, 04:49:09 AM
also the amount of points it takes to ground geosurvey is the same as the amount it took to orbital geosurvey, just so you know
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: idefelipe on April 18, 2020, 04:53:57 AM
Great!!

Thanks for the help :D :D

I have 12 Geosurvey teams (1st level of geosurvey equipment). How can I see the amount of points that they get per.... hour?
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: SpaceMarine on April 18, 2020, 04:58:08 AM
add up the amount each of your formations generate by doing math on how much each of the geosurvey elements generate, so if its 0.2 per hour and you have 10 geosurvey elements then its two per hour
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: snapto on April 18, 2020, 06:38:56 AM
It is on summary Page on the economics screen
or you can find out that on system view also.  :)

There is also a Survey Sites tab on the left. It will list all potential survey sites in the system.
Title: Re: Ground Based Geosurvey question
Post by: Black on April 19, 2020, 03:13:54 AM
So I encountered situation we discussed earlier. It is in fact possible to have body without minerals to have groundsurvey potential, as you can see:

(https://i.ibb.co/w0kQ6c6/ground-geo.png) (https://ibb.co/8KCx8Y8)