Post by: Erik L on April 29, 2008, 04:23:54 PM
This is what I came up with, and it was not really viable without some bigtime jump tech.
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Tracker class Jump Ship 125000 tons 6116 Crew 19285.4 BP TCS 2500 TH 672 EM 3600
1120 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 20-222 Shields 120-300 Sensors 1/0/0/0 Damage Control 0-0 PPV 50
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 1500 Magazine 950 Replacement Parts 5
J125000(3-50) Jump Drive Max Ship Size 125000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Magneto-plasma Drive E5 (35) Power 80 Efficiency 0.50 Signature 19.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,100,000 Litres Range 31.7 billion km (327 days at full power)
Epsilon R300/15 Shields (40) Total Fuel Cost 600 Litres per day
Missile Launcher 10-060 (5) Missile Size 10 Rate of Fire 60
Missile Fire Control FC28-R1/30 (1) Range 840k km Resolution 1
Mark X Heavy Missile (95) Speed: 25600 km/s End: 5.9 minutes Range: 9m km Warhead: 15 MR: 32 Size: 10
ECCM-3 (1) ECM 30
This is the jump ship. It carries nine of the following:Code: [Select]
Stalker class Parasite Cruiser 8000 tons 847 Crew 2212.4 BP TCS 160 TH 96 EM 900
2500 km/s Armour 10-35 Shields 30-300 Sensors 14/14/0/0 Damage Control 2-2 PPV 46
Replacement Parts 5
Magneto-plasma Drive E5 (5) Power 80 Efficiency 0.50 Signature 19.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres Range 22.5 billion km (104 days at full power)
Epsilon R300/15 Shields (10) Total Fuel Cost 150 Litres per day
25cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser (4) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Fusion Torpedo R24 C5 (1) Range 240,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 15-5 ROF 15 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Gauss Cannon R3-100 (1x3) Range 30,000km TS: 4000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 160-16000 H30 (1) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 16000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (1) Total Power Output 40 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Active Search Sensor S28-R40/30 (1) GPS 1120 Range 11.2m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
ECCM-3 (1) ECM 30
I could have crammed a tenth in if I shaved 500 tons off, but I built the parasites first. I figured the 9 PCA would be the offensive punch along with the missiles. For defense, the jump ship carries a dozen of these:Code: [Select]
Hunter class Fighter 240 tons 22 Crew 116.1 BP TCS 4.8 TH 11.52 EM 0
10000 km/s Armour 1-3 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/0/0/0 Damage Control 0-0 PPV 1
FTR Magneto-plasma Drive E500 (1) Power 48 Efficiency 50.00 Signature 11.52 Armour 0 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 10,000 Litres Range 1.5 billion km (41 hours at full power)
Gauss Cannon R3-17 (1x3) Range 30,000km TS: 10000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 17% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S01 40-4000 H30 (FTR) (1) Max Range: 80,000 km TS: 16000 km/s 88 75 62 50 38 25 12 0 0 0
Active Search Sensor S28-R40/30 (1) GPS 1120 Range 11.2m km Resolution 40
This design is classed as a fighter for production and combat purposesOne thing I think needs changing, it is very hard to determine how much of your hangar space is currently occupied without keeping track yourself (or blindly adding until told "no more!")
I'd expect with improved engine technology, these ships would be that much more nasty. The speeds are relatively low for magneto-plasma (in my opinion), but a half dozen Trackers would field a hell of a punch.
Of course, if I removed the hangars...
*wanders back to the design table*
Post by: Erik L on April 29, 2008, 05:01:20 PM
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Wolf class Jump Ship 125000 tons 11141 Crew 27084.4 BP TCS 2500 TH 768 EM 9000
1280 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 30-222 Shields 300-300 Sensors 14/14/0/0 Damage Control 5-2 PPV 800
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 220 Magazine 5600 Replacement Parts 30
J125000(3-50) Jump Drive Max Ship Size 125000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Magneto-plasma Drive E5 (40) Power 80 Efficiency 0.50 Signature 19.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,100,000 Litres Range 31.7 billion km (286 days at full power)
Epsilon R300/15 Shields (100) Total Fuel Cost 1,500 Litres per day
25cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser (20) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Fusion Torpedo R24 C5 (20) Range 240,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 15-5 ROF 15 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
R40/C4 Meson Cannon (20) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 40 ROF 20 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Gauss Cannon R3-100 (20x3) Range 30,000km TS: 4000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 160-16000 H30 (4) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 16000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (2) Total Power Output 80 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Missile Launcher 10-060 (20) Missile Size 10 Rate of Fire 60
Missile Fire Control FC28-R1/30 (1) Range 840k km Resolution 1
Mark X Heavy Missile (560) Speed: 25600 km/s End: 5.9 minutes Range: 9m km Warhead: 15 MR: 32 Size: 10
Active Search Sensor S28-R40/30 (1) GPS 1120 Range 11.2m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
ECCM-3 (1) ECM 30
Strike Group
45x Hunter Fighter Speed: 10000 km/s Size: 4.8
My only worry with this design is the power needs. I do think that after the alpha strike, the power won't be sufficient to power everything in time. And in designing this, I noticed the Tracker has no sensors.
And it only takes 67.7 years to build one
Post by: Charlie Beeler on April 30, 2008, 01:19:01 PM
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Stalker class Parasite Cruiser 8000 tons 847 Crew 2212.4 BP TCS 160 TH 96 EM 900
2500 km/s Armour 10-35 Shields 30-300 Sensors 14/14/0/0 Damage Control 2-2 PPV 46
Replacement Parts 5
Magneto-plasma Drive E5 (5) Power 80 Efficiency 0.50 Signature 19.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres Range 22.5 billion km (104 days at full power)
Epsilon R300/15 Shields (10) Total Fuel Cost 150 Litres per day
25cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser (4) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Fusion Torpedo R24 C5 (1) Range 240,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 15-5 ROF 15 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Gauss Cannon R3-100 (1x3) Range 30,000km TS: 4000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 160-16000 H30 (1) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 16000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (1) Total Power Output 40 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Active Search Sensor S28-R40/30 (1) GPS 1120 Range 11.2m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
ECCM-3 (1) ECM 30
seems a little light in the fire control department. 3 different weapons systems and only 1 fire control suite? Other than that it looks to be a decent ship.
Post by: Charlie Beeler on April 30, 2008, 01:23:35 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
The "battleship" version of the Tracker posted above.Code: [Select]Wolf class Jump Ship 125000 tons 11141 Crew 27084.4 BP TCS 2500 TH 768 EM 9000
1280 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 30-222 Shields 300-300 Sensors 14/14/0/0 Damage Control 5-2 PPV 800
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 220 Magazine 5600 Replacement Parts 30
J125000(3-50) Jump Drive Max Ship Size 125000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Magneto-plasma Drive E5 (40) Power 80 Efficiency 0.50 Signature 19.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,100,000 Litres Range 31.7 billion km (286 days at full power)
Epsilon R300/15 Shields (100) Total Fuel Cost 1,500 Litres per day
25cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser (20) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Fusion Torpedo R24 C5 (20) Range 240,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 15-5 ROF 15 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
R40/C4 Meson Cannon (20) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 40 ROF 20 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Gauss Cannon R3-100 (20x3) Range 30,000km TS: 4000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 160-16000 H30 (4) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 16000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (2) Total Power Output 80 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Missile Launcher 10-060 (20) Missile Size 10 Rate of Fire 60
Missile Fire Control FC28-R1/30 (1) Range 840k km Resolution 1
Mark X Heavy Missile (560) Speed: 25600 km/s End: 5.9 minutes Range: 9m km Warhead: 15 MR: 32 Size: 10
Active Search Sensor S28-R40/30 (1) GPS 1120 Range 11.2m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
ECCM-3 (1) ECM 30
Strike Group
45x Hunter Fighter Speed: 10000 km/s Size: 4.8
My only worry with this design is the power needs. I do think that after the alpha strike, the power won't be sufficient to power everything in time. And in designing this, I noticed the Tracker has no sensors.
And it only takes 67.7 years to build one
Again, probably because of my play style, looks to have a good mix of weapons but light in the fire control department. I agree it looks like your light in the reactor department as well.
Post by: Erik L on April 30, 2008, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: "Charlie Beeler"
Code: [Select]Stalker class Parasite Cruiser 8000 tons 847 Crew 2212.4 BP TCS 160 TH 96 EM 900
2500 km/s Armour 10-35 Shields 30-300 Sensors 14/14/0/0 Damage Control 2-2 PPV 46
Replacement Parts 5
Magneto-plasma Drive E5 (5) Power 80 Efficiency 0.50 Signature 19.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 50,000 Litres Range 22.5 billion km (104 days at full power)
Epsilon R300/15 Shields (10) Total Fuel Cost 150 Litres per day
25cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser (4) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Fusion Torpedo R24 C5 (1) Range 240,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 15-5 ROF 15 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
Gauss Cannon R3-100 (1x3) Range 30,000km TS: 4000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 160-16000 H30 (1) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 16000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (1) Total Power Output 40 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Active Search Sensor S28-R40/30 (1) GPS 1120 Range 11.2m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
ECCM-3 (1) ECM 30
seems a little light in the fire control department. 3 different weapons systems and only 1 fire control suite? Other than that it looks to be a decent ship.
These designs haven't seen combat, but I figured with the 9 Stalkers per Tracker, a couple could be dedicated to close-in support.
Post by: Erik L on April 30, 2008, 03:20:22 PM
Quote from: "Charlie Beeler"
Quote from: "Erik Luken"The "battleship" version of the Tracker posted above.Code: [Select]Wolf class Jump Ship 125000 tons 11141 Crew 27084.4 BP TCS 2500 TH 768 EM 9000
1280 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 30-222 Shields 300-300 Sensors 14/14/0/0 Damage Control 5-2 PPV 800
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 220 Magazine 5600 Replacement Parts 30
J125000(3-50) Jump Drive Max Ship Size 125000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Magneto-plasma Drive E5 (40) Power 80 Efficiency 0.50 Signature 19.2 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,100,000 Litres Range 31.7 billion km (286 days at full power)
Epsilon R300/15 Shields (100) Total Fuel Cost 1,500 Litres per day
25cm C4 Far Ultraviolet Laser (20) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 5 ROF 20 16 16 16 16 16 13 11 10 8 8
Fusion Torpedo R24 C5 (20) Range 240,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 15-5 ROF 15 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6
R40/C4 Meson Cannon (20) Range 320,000km TS: 4000 km/s Power 16-4 RM 40 ROF 20 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Gauss Cannon R3-100 (20x3) Range 30,000km TS: 4000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 3 ROF 5 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 160-16000 H30 (4) Max Range: 320,000 km TS: 16000 km/s 97 94 91 88 84 81 78 75 72 69
Tokamak Fusion Reactor Technology PB-1 AR-0 (2) Total Power Output 80 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Missile Launcher 10-060 (20) Missile Size 10 Rate of Fire 60
Missile Fire Control FC28-R1/30 (1) Range 840k km Resolution 1
Mark X Heavy Missile (560) Speed: 25600 km/s End: 5.9 minutes Range: 9m km Warhead: 15 MR: 32 Size: 10
Active Search Sensor S28-R40/30 (1) GPS 1120 Range 11.2m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-14/30 (1) Sensitivity 14 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 14m km
ECCM-3 (1) ECM 30
Strike Group
45x Hunter Fighter Speed: 10000 km/s Size: 4.8
My only worry with this design is the power needs. I do think that after the alpha strike, the power won't be sufficient to power everything in time. And in designing this, I noticed the Tracker has no sensors.
And it only takes 67.7 years to build one
Again, probably because of my play style, looks to have a good mix of weapons but light in the fire control department. I agree it looks like your light in the reactor department as well.
This one has 4 systems and 4 FC, so I figured that'd be decent. Plus, to cause any internal damage, you've got to drop 300pts of shields, and penetrate 30 armor.
Post by: Haegan2005 on April 30, 2008, 03:48:02 PM
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This one has 4 systems and 4 FC, so I figured that'd be decent. Plus, to cause any internal damage, you've got to drop 300pts of shields, and penetrate 30 armor.
That's what graviton warheads are for!
Post by: Erik L on April 30, 2008, 04:55:03 PM
Quote from: "Haegan2005"
QuoteThis one has 4 systems and 4 FC, so I figured that'd be decent. Plus, to cause any internal damage, you've got to drop 300pts of shields, and penetrate 30 armor.
That's what graviton warheads are for!
If you look at the missiles both the Wolf and Tracker carry, you'll see they are 15 pt warheads. I imagine a couple of missiles impacting on top of each other will have an effect, but the sheer size of the ships means that missiles will probably not hit like that until late in the battle. 30x220 armor is a HUGE area to hit, and it will take a minimum of 2 warheads to scrape off the armor in one section.
Steve, will we start to see different warhead types (shaped charge, HE) with different damage shapes under the new system?
Post by: Erik L on April 30, 2008, 06:15:41 PM
The Shakar Battleglobe. Carries 13 Twilight-class fighters for defense. Operational doctrine is 2 Shakar and 1 Chase Carrier Globe.
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Shakar class Battleglobe 125000 tons 15276 Crew 264362.5 BP TCS 2500 TH 150 EM 22500
6000 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 30-222 Shields 750-300 Sensors 75/75/0/0 Damage Control 0-0 PPV 1540
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 130 Magazine 1920 Replacement Parts 5
J125000(3-50) Jump Drive Max Ship Size 125000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Photonic Drive E1 (30) Power 500 Efficiency 0.10 Signature 5 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,600,000 Litres Range 230.4 billion km (444 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (50) Total Fuel Cost 750 Litres per day
Twin 30cm C25 Far Gamma Ray Laser Turret (10x2) Range 1,400,000km TS: 80000 km/s Power 48-50 RM 12 ROF 5 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24
80cm C25 Far Gamma Ray Laser (10) Range 1,400,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 168-25 RM 12 ROF 35 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168
Twin R1008/C25 Meson Cannon Turret (10x2) Range 1,400,000km TS: 80000 km/s Power 336-50 RM 1008 ROF 35 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Gauss Cannon R6-100 (10x10) Range 60,000km TS: 20000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 6 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
50cm Railgun V9/C20 (10x4) Range 1,400,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 60-20 RM 9 ROF 15 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 18
Fire Control S16 700-80000 H10 (4) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 80000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (8) Total Power Output 1600 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Missile Launcher 12-030 (10) Missile Size 12 Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC3600-R2/10 (1) Range 216.0m km Resolution 2
M-12 Missile (160) Speed: 33300 km/s End: 75 minutes Range: 149.8m km Warhead: 97 MR: 35 Size: 12
Active Search Sensor S180-R1/10 (1) GPS 180 Range 1.8m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
Compact ECCM-10 (5) ECM 100
Strike Group
13x Twilight Fighter Speed: 30612 km/s Size: 9.8
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Chase class Carrier Globe 125000 tons 7334 Crew 85042.5 BP TCS 2500 TH 150 EM 22500
6000 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 30-222 Shields 750-300 Sensors 75/75/0/0 Damage Control 0-0 PPV 180
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 1500 Magazine 1920 Replacement Parts 5
J125000(3-50) Jump Drive Max Ship Size 125000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Photonic Drive E1 (30) Power 500 Efficiency 0.10 Signature 5 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 1,150,000 Litres Range 165.6 billion km (319 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (50) Total Fuel Cost 750 Litres per day
Gauss Cannon R6-100 (10x10) Range 60,000km TS: 20000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 6 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 700-80000 H10 (2) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 80000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Missile Launcher 12-030 (10) Missile Size 12 Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC3600-R2/10 (1) Range 216.0m km Resolution 2
M-12 Missile (160) Speed: 33300 km/s End: 75 minutes Range: 149.8m km Warhead: 97 MR: 35 Size: 12
Active Search Sensor S180-R1/10 (1) GPS 180 Range 1.8m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
Compact ECCM-10 (3) ECM 100
The Chase CVG carries 8 Fang Parasite Cruisers and 2 Teeth Parasite Missile Cruisers.Code: [Select]
Fang class Parasite Cruiser 7500 tons 682 Crew 31188 BP TCS 150 TH 50 EM 1800
33333 km/s Armour 15-34 Shields 60-300 Sensors 75/75/0/0 Damage Control 2-3 PPV 26.5
Replacement Parts 5
Photonic Drive E1 (10) Power 500 Efficiency 0.10 Signature 5 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 150,000 Litres Range 360.0 billion km (125 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (4) Total Fuel Cost 60 Litres per day
Gauss Cannon R6-100 (4x10) Range 60,000km TS: 33333 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 6 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Gauss Cannon R6-8 (5x10) Range 60,000km TS: 33333 km/s Accuracy Modifier 8% RM 6 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 700-80000 H10 (2) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 80000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Active Search Sensor S180-R1/10 (1) GPS 180 Range 1.8m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
Compact ECCM-10 (2) ECM 100
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Teeth class Parasite Missile Cruise 7500 tons 787 Crew 33368 BP TCS 150 TH 50 EM 1800
33333 km/s Armour 15-34 Shields 60-300 Sensors 75/75/0/0 Damage Control 2-3 PPV 19
Magazine 68 Replacement Parts 5
Photonic Drive E1 (10) Power 500 Efficiency 0.10 Signature 5 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres Range 240.0 billion km (83 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (4) Total Fuel Cost 60 Litres per day
Gauss Cannon R6-8 (2x10) Range 60,000km TS: 33333 km/s Accuracy Modifier 8% RM 6 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 700-80000 H10 (1) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 80000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Missile Launcher 02-005 (9) Missile Size 2 Rate of Fire 5
Missile Fire Control FC3600-R2/10 (1) Range 216.0m km Resolution 2
M-2 Light Missile (34) Speed: 100000 km/s End: 37.5 minutes Range: 225m km Warhead: 15 MR: 12 Size: 2
Active Search Sensor S180-R1/10 (1) GPS 180 Range 1.8m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
Compact ECCM-10 (2) ECM 100
Post by: Kurt on April 30, 2008, 06:37:19 PM
Quote from: "Haegan2005"
QuoteThis one has 4 systems and 4 FC, so I figured that'd be decent. Plus, to cause any internal damage, you've got to drop 300pts of shields, and penetrate 30 armor.
That's what graviton warheads are for!
These designs are very light on Fire Controls (FC's) for my taste. They would be easy meat for any reasonable swarm group, and would have a hard time defending against missile attacks. I usually equip my ships with one FC per point defense turret, so that large numbers of salvoes can be engaged if necessary.
In this case, for a ship with 60 anti-ship weapons and 20 point defense turrets, I'd probably mount one FC per 5-8 anti-ship weapons, and one FC per 3-4 point defense turrets. That would mean about 13 to 20 FC's for this ship.
The low power output is troubling as well, as it lowers your effective rate of fire, but this can be a valid tactic to maximize your offensive first-strike capability at the cost of rate of fire. Still, in a major combatant, I'd be reluctant to reduce effective rate of fire. Interesting choice, though.
Kurt
Post by: Erik L on April 30, 2008, 06:49:26 PM
I also think the fuel situation might be cause for worry. The Chase could theoretically empty it's tanks just to refill its parasites.
Makes one wonder what a max hull tanker/carrier would look like...
Post by: Erik L on April 30, 2008, 06:55:51 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
I think one thing I'd do on the Chase would be to swap out some of the M-12 missiles for M-2 Light missiles for reloads for the Teeth PCG.
I also think the fuel situation might be cause for worry. The Chase could theoretically empty it's tanks just to refill its parasites.
Makes one wonder what a max hull tanker/carrier would look like...
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Pack class Fleet Support Globe 125000 tons 7304 Crew 89942.5 BP TCS 2500 TH 150 EM 22500
6000 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 30-222 Shields 750-300 Sensors 75/75/0/0 Damage Control 0-0 PPV 180
Flag Bridge Magazine 16680 Replacement Parts 5
J125000(3-50) Jump Drive Max Ship Size 125000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Photonic Drive E1 (30) Power 500 Efficiency 0.10 Signature 5 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 42,650,000 Litres Range 6141.6 billion km (11847 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (50) Total Fuel Cost 750 Litres per day
Gauss Cannon R6-100 (10x10) Range 60,000km TS: 20000 km/s Accuracy Modifier 100% RM 6 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Fire Control S16 700-80000 H10 (2) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 80000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Missile Launcher 12-030 (10) Missile Size 12 Rate of Fire 30
Missile Fire Control FC3600-R2/10 (1) Range 216.0m km Resolution 2
M-12 Missile (695) Speed: 33300 km/s End: 75 minutes Range: 149.8m km Warhead: 97 MR: 35 Size: 12
M-2 Light Missile (4170) Speed: 100000 km/s End: 37.5 minutes Range: 225m km Warhead: 15 MR: 12 Size: 2
Active Search Sensor S180-R1/10 (1) GPS 180 Range 1.8m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-75/10 (1) Sensitivity 75 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 75m km
Compact ECCM-10 (3) ECM 100
Half of the available magazine space is dedicated to M-2 Light Missiles. Given that only 20% of the parasites use the M-2, it would make more sense to reduce that capacity to 20% also. That would give a loadout of 1668 M-2 and 1112 M-12.
Post by: Erik L on April 30, 2008, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: "Kurt"
Quote from: "Haegan2005"QuoteThis one has 4 systems and 4 FC, so I figured that'd be decent. Plus, to cause any internal damage, you've got to drop 300pts of shields, and penetrate 30 armor.
That's what graviton warheads are for!
These designs are very light on Fire Controls (FC's) for my taste. They would be easy meat for any reasonable swarm group, and would have a hard time defending against missile attacks. I usually equip my ships with one FC per point defense turret, so that large numbers of salvoes can be engaged if necessary.
In this case, for a ship with 60 anti-ship weapons and 20 point defense turrets, I'd probably mount one FC per 5-8 anti-ship weapons, and one FC per 3-4 point defense turrets. That would mean about 13 to 20 FC's for this ship.
The low power output is troubling as well, as it lowers your effective rate of fire, but this can be a valid tactic to maximize your offensive first-strike capability at the cost of rate of fire. Still, in a major combatant, I'd be reluctant to reduce effective rate of fire. Interesting choice, though.
Kurt
I normally go with only 1 or 2 FC suites per ship. With the greater disparity in ranges on the Shakar weapon systems, I went with 1 per type. I can see where more would be useful though.
The Shakar I think, and stress think, solves the power issue of the earlier Tracker. It generates 1600 power, and if I calculated the 5 second consumption correctly, it needs only 1450 or so.
As for the swarm tactics, both the Shakar and Chase have 750 points of shielding and 30x222 armor. The sheer size of the ships almost precludes significant overlapping in the hits on the armor. I truly think it would take a foe with the same level of technology to give a globe battlegroup a fight. A battle group would have the 2 Shakar and 1 Chase, with 26 Twilight fighters, 8 Fang and 2 Teeth. Discounting point defense (and I've classified the fighters as PD in this case), there is 58 missile tubes (40 M-12 and 18 M-2), and 112 other weapon systems in the group.
Rough calculations show that it'll take 7 M-12 to drop the shields on a Shakar/Chase, and 1 more to penetrate armor. Against the parasites, only 1 missile is required for the internals. Against lower tech foes, the M-12 missiles should do Very Bad Things(tm).
I'll have to create some opponents of varying tech levels and throw a globe group at them to see what happens.
Post by: Þórgrímr on April 30, 2008, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
As for the swarm tactics, both the Shakar and Chase have 750 points of shielding and 30x222 armor. The sheer size of the ships almost precludes significant overlapping in the hits on the armor. I truly think it would take a foe with the same level of technology to give a globe battlegroup a fight.
So said the elephant to the ant when he stomped him flat. Not taking into account the 'family' that ant had. And we all know what happened to the elephant in the end. :D And yes I know who the quoted is. :wink: Huge monsters like that are only any good if they have quantity themselves, which precludes building them in the first place.
Just my dos Centavos on the subject of quantity vs quality.
Cheers, ??rgr?mr
Post by: Kurt on May 01, 2008, 11:06:23 AM
Quote from: "??rgr?mr"
Quote from: "Erik Luken"As for the swarm tactics, both the Shakar and Chase have 750 points of shielding and 30x222 armor. The sheer size of the ships almost precludes significant overlapping in the hits on the armor. I truly think it would take a foe with the same level of technology to give a globe battlegroup a fight.
So said the elephant to the ant when he stomped him flat. Not taking into account the 'family' that ant had. And we all know what happened to the elephant in the end. :D And yes I know who the quoted is. :wink: Huge monsters like that are only any good if they have quantity themselves, which precludes building them in the first place.
Just my dos Centavos on the subject of quantity vs quality.
Cheers, ??rgr?mr
Put shortly, I agree. While these designs would be death on any large ships that attacked them, they would be picked to death by any decent swarm. With only a single FC per type of weapon, they could only destroy four or five enemy units per round that they could fire. An equivalent mass swarm (say 125 1,000 ton GB's) could approach, fire its missiles, then retreat, suffering only a few casualties. The swarm might not inflict serious damage the first time they launched, but this design would have to have thirty or so rounds of fire to destroy the swarm.
Kurt
Post by: Erik L on May 01, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
With more fire control, the swarm would be less effective, but still would end up causing serious damage.
I think though, that any race coming up against one or more of these unexpectedly would not be able to prevail. You cannot kill the elephant without the swarm of ants, but if you don't know you need a swarm of ants, you'll be elephant toejam
Post by: Þórgrímr on May 01, 2008, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
I see both of your points. This was mainly an exercise to see if a viable ship could be built that carried large parasites, similar to Dahak. The ships here are a fraction of Dahak's size, and even with max tech, a Shakar is taking 33 years to build.
With more fire control, the swarm would be less effective, but still would end up causing serious damage.
I think though, that any race coming up against one or more of these unexpectedly would not be able to prevail. You cannot kill the elephant without the swarm of ants, but if you don't know you need a swarm of ants, you'll be elephant toejam :D Now think how the crew of that monster would feel knowing they would only kill a handful each turn while they were nibbled to death by the thousands they did not kill.
And as a swarm I would not use missiles, too long of a recharge rate. Torps and Gauss weaponry, with a few hundred missile boats thrown in for good measure. The Gunboats would have MUCH faster reload rate and the missiles would force you to keep some PD ready just in case a salvo was launched.
And like a nest of angry ants would not go away till you killed them. :D
Cheers, Thorgrimm
Post by: Erik L on May 01, 2008, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: "??rgr?mr"
Quote from: "Erik Luken"I see both of your points. This was mainly an exercise to see if a viable ship could be built that carried large parasites, similar to Dahak. The ships here are a fraction of Dahak's size, and even with max tech, a Shakar is taking 33 years to build.
With more fire control, the swarm would be less effective, but still would end up causing serious damage.
I think though, that any race coming up against one or more of these unexpectedly would not be able to prevail. You cannot kill the elephant without the swarm of ants, but if you don't know you need a swarm of ants, you'll be elephant toejam :D Now think how the crew of that monster would feel knowing they would only kill a handful each turn while they were nibbled to death by the thousands they did not kill.
And as a swarm I would not use missiles, too long of a recharge rate. Torps and Gauss weaponry, with a few hundred missile boats thrown in for good measure. The Gunboats would have MUCH faster reload rate and the missiles would force you to keep some PD ready just in case a salvo was launched.
And like a nest of angry ants would not go away till you killed them. :D
Cheers, Thorgrimm
Assume you've got a race dedicated to building these and their parasites. Say 1 world with the ability to build 6 of them at once (and the supply of minerals which is ungodly), If they built 6 of the Chase carrier globes, that is 9000 hangar points, or 1800 size 5 fighters.
For for, here are the mineral requirements
Chase Carrier Globe -Code: [Select]17342.5 DuraniumShakar Battleglobe
6682.5 Neutronium
3125 Corbomite
1550 Tritanium
1125 Boronide
300 Mercassium
8700 Vendarite
2000 Sorium (not counting the 1.1 million liters of fuel)
21517.5 Uridium
22500 GalliciteCode: [Select]56984.499 Duranium
16486.5002 Neutronium
4085 Corbomite
1550 Tritanium
37796.999 Boronide
620 Mercassium
1850 Vendarite
2000 Sorium (excluding the 1.6 million liters of fuel)
34117.5 Uridium
87612.002 Corundium
22500 Gallicite
Of course, those totals are not including any parasites or ordnance. The mineral cost alone is prohibitive, let alone the build time. Which is 33.05 years for the Shakar at max tech, and 10.63 years for the Chase.
Post by: Steve Walmsley on May 02, 2008, 04:32:46 AM
Perhaps one option is a special, expensive type of shipyard for really huge ships. It has a much increased build rate (perhaps 3x) and starts with a two slipways and a large capacity of say 25,000 tons. It would be too expensive a proposition for building swarm units but it would be a good investment for really large warships. Cost of the ships would be the same as if they were built in regular shipyards, they would just be built faster. Such a mega-shipyard would cost maybe 10,000 BP.
Another idea that just occurred to me and requires less technobabble is that larger shipyards are inherently faster at building large ships. What if the racial shipyard construction rate was only for shipyards of a certain size, say 5000 ton capacity. As shipyards get larger, not only can they build larger ships but they can build them faster. So a 10,000 ton shipyard can build at twice the racial construction rate and a 15,000 ton shipyard can build at 3x the rate. I guess I would have to make this work both ways so a 2500 ton shipyard would only build at half the racial construction rate. I think this may be reflected in reality too as small shipyards probably take a while to build small ships while huge shipyards can turn out much larger ships at a proportionately faster rate in terms of build size vs construction time. Ship build costs would remain the same so a 15,000 ton shipyard is going to be using up wealth and resources at 3x the rate of a 5000 ton shipyard but again that seems reasonable.
Perhaps it would be even better to state that the size of the ship, rather than the shipyard, affects the construction rate. After all, a ship can't be built in a shipyard that isn't large enough so that takes care of the shipyard requirement while it would prevent you turning out vast numbers of swarm units in a 15,000 ton shipyard. That seems logical from a historical perspective. So a 15,000 ton ship would be built at 3x the rate of a 5000 ton ship. You would obviously still need a large enough shipyard to build it
Interested to hear comments on both these ideas. I think the latter would allow larger ships to be built more quickly with a reasonable explanation and would also slow down the construction rate of corvette and gunboat size ships
Steve
Post by: Brian Neumann on May 02, 2008, 04:57:40 AM
Brian
Post by: Bellerophon06 on May 02, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
Perhaps both ideas can be used, so that slipways of the appropriate size can turn out ships more quickly, and give the player an option to use multiple slipways could be used to build one larger ship. That idea falls in line with the current practice of building aircraft carriers in sections, and then putting them together to form the total ship.
This would give the player an interesting decision to make as to which method would be better suited to their empire.
Post by: Þórgrímr on May 02, 2008, 01:53:04 PM
??rgr?mr
Post by: Charlie Beeler on May 02, 2008, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: "??rgr?mr"
All right Eric, I'm pissed now! I had a freakin long post here and the damned message about Arachnids appeared and I lost it! This is the first forum I have ever seen where you need to post in under 2 minutes or you lose your post. :evil:
??rgr?mr
So I'm not the only one this is happening too.
Post by: Charlie Beeler on May 02, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
An ability to combine 2 or more slipways within an individual shipyard to build an oversize ship might be a good idea. Not as a starting capability though. I think it should be a researched tech that is then applied to individual yards. To start with it should only add the ability to build oversize ship, later tech advances would be needed for improved ship construction rates. Maybe even a veriant of experience for yards that influences construction rates.
Grub for ponder?n
(cross posting to suggestions)
Post by: Erik L on May 02, 2008, 02:40:39 PM
Of course, using jump gates (and I don't know why any race with max tech wouldn't be crapping out jumpgates left and right) the hull sizes increase, since if I recall, there is no max to a jump gate transfer.
As a suggestion, with large size hangars, on the fighter/parasite tab of the ship creation, show more than just fighters. Show any possible ship that could fit in the hangars.
Post by: Drusus on May 02, 2008, 07:41:09 PM
Combining slipways has great utility even early on. Several times I have wanted to build an extra medium size ship in the early game but only had low tonnage slipways available. This would allow more flexibility for all types of ships not just the dreadnaughts.
Post by: SteveAlt on May 02, 2008, 07:47:17 PM
Quote from: "??rgr?mr"
All right Eric, I'm pissed now! I had a freakin long post here and the damned message about Arachnids appeared and I lost it! This is the first forum I have ever seen where you need to post in under 2 minutes or you lose your post. :evil:
I have had the occasional post lost in the ether too so what I usually do is Ctrl-C the whole post before I press submit or preview. If it vanishes I can just paste it into a new message. Fortunately I had just done that with the latest campaign post when I got the Arachnid message
Steve
Post by: Þórgrímr on May 02, 2008, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: "SteveAlt"
I have had the occasional post lost in the ether too so what I usually do is Ctrl-C the whole post before I press submit or preview. If it vanishes I can just paste it into a new message. Fortunately I had just done that with the latest campaign post when I got the Arachnid message :D
Cheers, ??rgr?mr
Post by: Erik L on May 03, 2008, 01:31:37 AM
Quote from: "Charlie Beeler"
Quote from: "??rgr?mr"All right Eric, I'm pissed now! I had a freakin long post here and the damned message about Arachnids appeared and I lost it! This is the first forum I have ever seen where you need to post in under 2 minutes or you lose your post. :evil:
??rgr?mr
So I'm not the only one this is happening too.
I've lost some posts too. It's only supposed to eat the ones that are put in quick, not slow. I'll look into it.
Post by: SteveAlt on May 03, 2008, 06:59:51 AM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
I've lost some posts too. It's only supposed to eat the ones that are put in quick, not slow. I'll look into it.
Thanks Erik.
I think I speak for everyone when I say that we really appreciate all the free work you do in hosting and maintaining the site.
Steve
Post by: Steve Walmsley on May 03, 2008, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
For jump-capable ships the maximum hull size is 125000.
I have increased the size of the maximum jump engine. You can now have jump capable ships up to 2.5 million tons, although they might be a little expensive.
Steve
Post by: Erik L on May 03, 2008, 04:25:09 PM
Quote from: "Steve Walmsley"
Quote from: "Erik Luken"For jump-capable ships the maximum hull size is 125000.I have increased the size of the maximum jump engine. You can now have jump capable ships up to 2.5 million tons, although they might be a little expensive.
Steve
You evil bastard you
Post by: Erik L on July 04, 2010, 06:25:08 PM
Just for grins, I updated some designs to 5.14
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Tribal class Battleglobe 1250000 tons 137155 Crew 2745763.0006 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 67500
3000 km/s JR 12-50 Armour 20-1033 Shields 2250-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 1510 PPV 8400
Annual Failure Rate: 9191% IFR: 127.7% Maint Capacity 2167104 MSP Max Repair 2250000 MSP Est Time: 0.01 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions Magazine 65900
J1250000(12-50) Military Jump Drive Max Ship Size 1250000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 12
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (150) Total Fuel Cost 2,250 Litres per day
CIWS-1000 (10x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Size 12 Missile Launcher (100) Missile Size 12 Rate of Fire 30
Size 72 Missile Launcher (100) Missile Size 72 Rate of Fire 180
Missile Fire Control FC2025-R500 (10%) (10) Range 2,025.0m km Resolution 500
Missile Fire Control FC16200-R40 (10%) (10) Range 16,200.0m km Resolution 40
Size 12 Anti-ship Missile (1891) Speed: 208,300 km/s End: 12m Range: 150m km WH: 150 Size: 12 TH: 694 / 416 / 208
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (300) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 42m Range: 350.2m km WH: 0 Size: 72 TH: 463 / 277 / 138
Size 72 Shotgun MIRV (300) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 42m Range: 350.2m km WH: 0 Size: 72 TH: 463 / 277 / 138
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Compact ECCM-10 (20) ECM 100
Strike Group
100x Agincourt Heavy Fighter Speed: 30000 km/s Size: 10
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
In addition to the above fighter complement, the Tribal carries 10 Victory-class cruisers.With maximum tech, it takes ~2.75 years to build one Tribal Battleglobe.
A note on the missiles. The size-12 is the primary anti-ship offense. The size 72 shotgun MIRV fires 36 size 1 AMM. The size 72 missile is a MIRV with 3 of the size-12.
I know, the maintenance reeks.
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Victory class Cruiser 5000 tons 544 Crew 12112.5 BP TCS 0.5 TH 5 EM 4500
5000 km/s Armour 5-26 Shields 150-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 2 PPV 22
Annual Failure Rate: 100% IFR: 1.4% Maint Capacity 3028 MSP Max Repair 3061 MSP Est Time: 0.99 Years
Photonic Drive E1 ARM-10 (1) Power 500 Fuel Use 10% Signature 5 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 150,000 Litres Range 540.0 billion km (1250 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (10) Total Fuel Cost 150 Litres per day
Particle Beam-50 (1) Range 350,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 125-25 ROF 25 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50
Fire Control S01 175-25000 H10 (1) Max Range: 350,000 km TS: 25000 km/s 97 94 91 89 86 83 80 77 74 71
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (1) Total Power Output 400 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Active Search Sensor MR540-R40 (10%) (1) GPS 7200 Range 540.0m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 0.5% of normal
ECCM-10 (1) ECM 100
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The Victory is the main offensive punch of the Tribal Battleglobe. Code: [Select]
Agincourt class Heavy Fighter 500 tons 65 Crew 2645 BP TCS 10 TH 3 EM 900
30000 km/s Armour 6-5 Shields 30-300 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 0 PPV 3
Annual Failure Rate: 20% IFR: 0.3% Maint Capacity 331 MSP Max Repair 1969 MSP Est Time: 0.84 Years
FTR Photonic Drive E100 (1) Power 300 Fuel Use 1000% Signature 3 Armour 0 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 20,000 Litres Range 7.2 billion km (66 hours at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (2) Total Fuel Cost 30 Litres per day
R18/C3 Meson Cannon (1) Range 180,000km TS: 30000 km/s Power 3-3 RM 18 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Fire Control S01 175-25000 H10 (FTR) (1) Max Range: 350,000 km TS: 100000 km/s 97 94 91 89 86 83 80 77 74 71
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-0 (1) Total Power Output 20 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Small Craft ECCM-5 (1) ECM 50
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a fighter for production and combat purposes
The Agincourt heavy fighter offers the Tribal additional offensive punch and a heavy AMM screen.
I'm going to modify the Tribal to a non-jump design, and see what a full group of 12 would look like. I'm thinking 2 Tribals, a maintenance ship, a collier, 6 offensive ships, an AMM globe, and a dedicated troop carrier.
Post by: Erik L on July 04, 2010, 07:47:38 PM
A standard group is 2x Tribal-class Battleglobes, 2x Ark Royal-class Escort Battleglobes, 5x King George V-class Assault Globes, 1x Resolution-class Collier Globe, 1x Illustrious-class Mobile Repair Globe, and 1x Vanguard-class Troop Globe.
Total parasite complement is 100 Victory-class Cruiser, 20 Invincible-class Science Vessels, and 1200 Agincourt Heavy Fighters. Also embarked are 255 Battalions of troops.
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Tribal class Battleglobe 1250000 tons 136905 Crew 2772263.0006 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 67500
3000 km/s JR 12-50 Armour 20-1033 Shields 2250-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 1460 PPV 8400
Annual Failure Rate: 9542% IFR: 132.5% Maint Capacity 2115734 MSP Max Repair 2250000 MSP Est Time: 0.01 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions Magazine 65900
J1250000(12-50) Military Jump Drive Max Ship Size 1250000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 12
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (150) Total Fuel Cost 2,250 Litres per day
CIWS-1000 (10x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Size 12 Missile Launcher (100) Missile Size 12 Rate of Fire 30
Size 72 Missile Launcher (100) Missile Size 72 Rate of Fire 180
Missile Fire Control FC16200-R40 (10%) (10) Range 16,200.0m km Resolution 40
Missile Fire Control FC2025-R500 (10%) (10) Range 2,025.0m km Resolution 500
Size 12 Anti-ship Missile (1891) Speed: 208,300 km/s End: 12m Range: 150m km WH: 150 Size: 12 TH: 694 / 416 / 208
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (300) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 42m Range: 350.2m km WH: 0 Size: 72 TH: 463 / 277 / 138
Size 72 Shotgun MIRV (300) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 42m Range: 350.2m km WH: 0 Size: 72 TH: 463 / 277 / 138
Active Search Sensor MR5400-R40 (10%) (5) GPS 72000 Range 5,400.0m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Compact ECCM-10 (20) ECM 100
Strike Group
100x Agincourt Heavy Fighter Speed: 30000 km/s Size: 10
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The biggest issue I have with the Tribal currently is the maintenance situation. If the jump drive goes, it won't be able to repair it out of on-board stocks. Code: [Select]
Victory class Cruiser 5000 tons 544 Crew 12112.5 BP TCS 0.5 TH 5 EM 4500
5000 km/s Armour 5-26 Shields 150-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 2 PPV 22
Annual Failure Rate: 100% IFR: 1.4% Maint Capacity 3028 MSP Max Repair 3061 MSP Est Time: 0.99 Years
Photonic Drive E1 ARM-10 (1) Power 500 Fuel Use 10% Signature 5 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 150,000 Litres Range 540.0 billion km (1250 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (10) Total Fuel Cost 150 Litres per day
Particle Beam-50 (1) Range 350,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 125-25 ROF 25 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50 50
Fire Control S01 175-25000 H10 (1) Max Range: 350,000 km TS: 25000 km/s 97 94 91 89 86 83 80 77 74 71
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (1) Total Power Output 400 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Active Search Sensor MR540-R40 (10%) (1) GPS 7200 Range 540.0m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 0.5% of normal
ECCM-10 (1) ECM 100
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The power output on the Victory is overkill. I should design a smaller plant with less output specifically for the cruisers.Code: [Select]
Agincourt class Heavy Fighter 500 tons 65 Crew 2645 BP TCS 10 TH 3 EM 900
30000 km/s Armour 6-5 Shields 30-300 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 0 PPV 3
Annual Failure Rate: 20% IFR: 0.3% Maint Capacity 331 MSP Max Repair 1969 MSP Est Time: 0.84 Years
FTR Photonic Drive E100 (1) Power 300 Fuel Use 1000% Signature 3 Armour 0 Exp 25%
Fuel Capacity 20,000 Litres Range 7.2 billion km (66 hours at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (2) Total Fuel Cost 30 Litres per day
R18/C3 Meson Cannon (1) Range 180,000km TS: 30000 km/s Power 3-3 RM 18 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Fire Control S01 175-25000 H10 (FTR) (1) Max Range: 350,000 km TS: 100000 km/s 97 94 91 89 86 83 80 77 74 71
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-0 (1) Total Power Output 20 Armour 0 Exp 5%
Small Craft ECCM-5 (1) ECM 50
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a fighter for production and combat purposes
With no active sensors, the Agincourt is dependant on the motherglobe for guidance to target.Code: [Select]
Ark Royal class Escort Battleglobe 1250000 tons 103245 Crew 5201644.5006 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 846000
3000 km/s Armour 30-1033 Shields 28200-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 1514 PPV 6200
Annual Failure Rate: 9163% IFR: 127.3% Maint Capacity 3847705 MSP Max Repair 31500 MSP Est Time: 1.17 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions Magazine 58500
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (1880) Total Fuel Cost 28,200 Litres per day
80cm C25 Far Gamma Ray Laser (100) Range 1,400,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 168-25 RM 12 ROF 35 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168 168
Quad Gauss Cannon R6-100 Turret (100x40) Range 60,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 6 ROF 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
CIWS-1000 (100x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Fire Control S04 700-25000 H10 (100) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 25000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Fire Control S16 700-100000 H10 (100) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 100000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (5) Total Power Output 2000 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Size 1 Missile Launcher (1000) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 5
Missile Fire Control FC40-R1 (10%) (200) Range 40.5m km Resolution 1
Size 1 Anti-missile Missile (58500) Speed: 280,000 km/s End: 10.7m Range: 180m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 933 / 560 / 280
Active Search Sensor MR5400-R40 (10%) (5) GPS 72000 Range 5,400.0m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Compact ECCM-10 (400) ECM 100
Strike Group
100x Agincourt Heavy Fighter Speed: 30000 km/s Size: 10
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
There is just something awe-inspiring about 1000 AMM every 5 seconds. I designed the ship to be able to target 200 salvos. In addition, it can target 200 offensive targets (100 each 80cm laser batteries and quad gauss cannons).Code: [Select]
Resolution class Collier Battleglobe 1250000 tons 56910 Crew 486645.2524 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 846000
3000 km/s Armour 30-1033 Shields 28200-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 1537 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 9012% IFR: 125.2% Maint Capacity 637479 MSP Max Repair 1680 MSP Est Time: 2.4 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions Magazine 227125
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (1880) Total Fuel Cost 28,200 Litres per day
CIWS-1000 (100x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Size 1 Anti-missile Missile (50000) Speed: 280,000 km/s End: 10.7m Range: 180m km WH: 1 Size: 1 TH: 933 / 560 / 280
Size 12 Anti-ship Missile (1560) Speed: 208,300 km/s End: 12m Range: 150m km WH: 150 Size: 12 TH: 694 / 416 / 208
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (1000) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 60m Range: 500m km WH: 600 Size: 72 TH: 3055 / 1833 / 916
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (600) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 42m Range: 350.2m km WH: 0 Size: 72 TH: 463 / 277 / 138
Size 72 Shotgun MIRV (600) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 42m Range: 350.2m km WH: 0 Size: 72 TH: 463 / 277 / 138
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
ECM 100
Strike Group
100x Agincourt Heavy Fighter Speed: 30000 km/s Size: 10
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The Resolution is meant to be a fleet tender, but there is not nearly enough magazine space for a full battle group. I'd need to look into this more.Code: [Select]
Illustrious class Mobile Repairglobe 1250000 tons 58635 Crew 452364.5 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 846000
3000 km/s Armour 30-1033 Shields 28200-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 2387 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 5587% IFR: 77.6% Maint Capacity 3006001 MSP Max Repair 1680 MSP Est Time: 7.5 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (1880) Total Fuel Cost 28,200 Litres per day
CIWS-1000 (100x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
ECM 100
Strike Group
100x Agincourt Heavy Fighter Speed: 30000 km/s Size: 10
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Ideally, the Illustrious would be able to carry out repairs also.Code: [Select]
King George V class Assault Battleglobe 1250000 tons 122550 Crew 952336.3506 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 1215000
3000 km/s Armour 30-1033 Shields 40500-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 1544 PPV 7200
Annual Failure Rate: 8967% IFR: 124.5% Maint Capacity 963742 MSP Max Repair 5400 MSP Est Time: 1.5 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions Magazine 65275
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (2700) Total Fuel Cost 40,500 Litres per day
CIWS-1000 (100x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (5) Total Power Output 2000 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Size 72 Missile Launcher (100) Missile Size 72 Rate of Fire 180
Missile Fire Control FC16200-R40 (10%) (50) Range 16,200.0m km Resolution 40
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (906) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 60m Range: 500m km WH: 600 Size: 72 TH: 3055 / 1833 / 916
Active Search Sensor MR5400-R40 (10%) (5) GPS 72000 Range 5,400.0m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Compact ECCM-10 (100) ECM 100
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The power plants on the King George V are remnants from initial designs that included lasers. Pulling them out would gain 3750 tons, or enough magazine space for 16 more missiles.Code: [Select]
Vanguard class Troop Globe 1250000 tons 44635 Crew 429884.5 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 846000
3000 km/s Armour 30-1033 Shields 28200-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 2019 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 6687% IFR: 92.9% Maint Capacity 701761 MSP Max Repair 1680 MSP Est Time: 3.06 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 200 Battalions Drop Capacity: 200 Battalions
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (1880) Total Fuel Cost 28,200 Litres per day
CIWS-1000 (100x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
ECM 100
Strike Group
100x Agincourt Heavy Fighter Speed: 30000 km/s Size: 10
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The Vanguard can drop 200 battalions onto recalcitrant targets, backed up by its 10 Victory (not to mention the rest of the fleet) this should be enough to take out most targets.Code: [Select]
Invincible class Science Vessel 5000 tons 470 Crew 7271 BP TCS 0.5 TH 5 EM 0
5000 km/s Armour 10-26 Shields 0-0 Sensors 375/375/25/25 Damage Control Rating 5 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 40% IFR: 0.6% Maint Capacity 4544 MSP Max Repair 1180 MSP Est Time: 3.91 Years
Photonic Drive E1 ARM-10 (1) Power 500 Fuel Use 10% Signature 5 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 250,000 Litres Range 900.0 billion km (2083 days at full power)
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Phased Gravitational Sensors (5) 25 Survey Points Per Hour
Phased Geological Sensors (5) 25 Survey Points Per Hour
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 0.5% of normal
ECM 100
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The Invincible is meant to provide the fleet with survey capabilities.
I guess additional variations on the globes could be designed, a colony/freighter design for one. I'm sure 1.25 million tons is enough cargo space to emplace a small colony.
These designs are limited by the maximum size of the jump drive. Non-jump capable ships could be much larger.
Post by: Beersatron on July 04, 2010, 11:01:40 PM
Post by: welchbloke on July 05, 2010, 06:58:13 AM
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
Here is the full battle group listing.So a little over 12 divisions (at max allocation of btns to BdeHQs to Div HQ) in a single battle group :D
A standard group is 2x Tribal-class Battleglobes, 2x Ark Royal-class Escort Battleglobes, 5x King George V-class Assault Globes, 1x Resolution-class Collier Globe, 1x Illustrious-class Mobile Repair Globe, and 1x Vanguard-class Troop Globe.
Total parasite complement is 100 Victory-class Cruiser, 20 Invincible-class Science Vessels, and 1200 Agincourt Heavy Fighters. Also embarked are 255 Battalions of troops.
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
For some reason 3750 tonnes for 16 missiles seems so irrelevantCode: [Select]King George V class Assault Battleglobe 1250000 tons 122550 Crew 952336.3506 BP TCS 25000 TH 750 EM 1215000The power plants on the King George V are remnants from initial designs that included lasers. Pulling them out would gain 3750 tons, or enough magazine space for 16 more missiles.
3000 km/s Armour 30-1033 Shields 40500-300 Sensors 375/375/0/0 Damage Control Rating 1544 PPV 7200
Annual Failure Rate: 8967% IFR: 124.5% Maint Capacity 963742 MSP Max Repair 5400 MSP Est Time: 1.5 Years
Flag Bridge Hangar Deck Capacity 100000 tons Troop Capacity: 5 Battalions Drop Capacity: 5 Battalions Magazine 65275
Photonic Drive E2 ARM-10 (100) Power 750 Fuel Use 20% Signature 7.5 Armour 10 Exp 35%
Fuel Capacity 150,000,000 Litres Range 1080.0 billion km (4166 days at full power)
Omega R300/15 Shields (2700) Total Fuel Cost 40,500 Litres per day
CIWS-1000 (100x20) Range 1000 km TS: 100000 km/s ROF 5 Base 50% To Hit
Vacuum Energy Power Plant Technology PB-1 AR-10 (5) Total Power Output 2000 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Size 72 Missile Launcher (100) Missile Size 72 Rate of Fire 180
Missile Fire Control FC16200-R40 (10%) (50) Range 16,200.0m km Resolution 40
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (906) Speed: 138,900 km/s End: 60m Range: 500m km WH: 600 Size: 72 TH: 3055 / 1833 / 916
Active Search Sensor MR5400-R40 (10%) (5) GPS 72000 Range 5,400.0m km Resolution 40
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (5) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Compact ECCM-10 (100) ECM 100
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Quote from: "Erik Luken"
I would have gone for a much faster survey design; after all it isn't limited by the fleet speed.Code: [Select]Invincible class Science Vessel 5000 tons 470 Crew 7271 BP TCS 0.5 TH 5 EM 0
5000 km/s Armour 10-26 Shields 0-0 Sensors 375/375/25/25 Damage Control Rating 5 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 40% IFR: 0.6% Maint Capacity 4544 MSP Max Repair 1180 MSP Est Time: 3.91 Years
Photonic Drive E1 ARM-10 (1) Power 500 Fuel Use 10% Signature 5 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 250,000 Litres Range 900.0 billion km (2083 days at full power)
Thermal Sensor TH5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
EM Detection Sensor EM5-375 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 375 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 375m km
Phased Gravitational Sensors (5) 25 Survey Points Per Hour
Phased Geological Sensors (5) 25 Survey Points Per Hour
Cloaking Device: Class cross-section reduced to 0.5% of normal
ECM 100
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
The Invincible is meant to provide the fleet with survey capabilities.
Post by: Erik L on July 05, 2010, 07:25:32 AM
Quick design
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Broadsword class Cruiser 100000 tons 2261 Crew 13913.5 BP TCS 2000 TH 40 EM 0
2000 km/s Armour 1-191 Shields 0-0 Sensors 1/1/0/0 Damage Control Rating 110 PPV 0
Annual Failure Rate: 727% IFR: 10.1% Maint Capacity 9565 MSP Max Repair 1180 MSP Est Time: 1.06 Years
Jump Gate Construction Ship: 20 days
Photonic Drive E1 ARM-10 (8) Power 500 Fuel Use 10% Signature 5 Armour 10 Exp 5%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres Range 18.0 billion km (104 days at full power)
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
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The mind boggles when a 1.25M tonne ship doesn't have enough capacityIf you look at the missile requirements of the rest of the fleet, we are talking:
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Size 12 Anti-ship Missile (3872)
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (600) - MIRV
Size 72 Shotgun MIRV (600)
Size 72 Anti-ship Missile (4530)
Size 1 Anti-missile Missile (58500)
So the Resolution code rearm the Tribal's size 72 missiles, once. And almost fill up the Ark Royal's magzines. Though the King George V uses 600pt warhead missiles, I'm not sure a lot would be required on a per ship/kill basis.Quote
I would have gone for a much faster survey design; after all it isn't limited by the fleet speed.
My biggest design constraint was staying at 5000 tons. Since the Invincible can generate 25 pts of each survey per hour, a grav survey should around 20 days for a G type star. With the inclusion of a Broadsword in the fleet, about the time it takes to build a gate home.
I might have to game out a couple years with the ships to see how they fare. My biggest concern is the failure rates on them.
Post by: Starkiller on July 05, 2010, 09:30:41 AM
My Hun class survey cruiser is supposed to 'run like hell' when encountering a hostile unknown. Since she's fast, well shielded and
armoured for a survey ship, and armed with a light battery of AMM launchers, she'll likely get away...most of the time. :)
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Prince of Wales class Battlecruiser 25000 tons 2805 Crew 52026.76 BP TCS 500 TH 158.4 EM 1440
15840 km/s JR 3-50 Armour 8-76 Shields 48-300 Sensors 60/60/0/0 Damage Control Rating 31 PPV 192
Annual Failure Rate: 5000% IFR: 69.4% Maint Capacity 1301 MSP Max Repair 5775 MSP Est Time: 0 Years
Magazine 1251
J25000(3-50) Military Jump Drive Max Ship Size 25000 tons Distance 50k km Squadron Size 3
Beam Core Anti-matter Drive E1 ARM-2 (22) Power 360 Fuel Use 10% Signature 7.2 Armour 2 Exp 3% Hyper Capable
Fuel Capacity 750,000 Litres Range 540.0 billion km (394 days at full power)
Psi R300/15 Shields (4) Total Fuel Cost 60 Litres per day
Twin 25cm C16 Far Gamma Ray Laser Turret (4x2) Range 1,400,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 32-32 RM 12 ROF 5 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
Quad 10cm C3 Far Gamma Ray Laser Turret (4x4) Range 360,000km TS: 20000 km/s Power 12-12 RM 12 ROF 5 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Fire Control S04 700-20000 H15 (2) Max Range: 1,400,000 km TS: 20000 km/s 99 99 98 97 96 96 95 94 94 93
Fire Control S01 175-20000 (2) Max Range: 350,000 km TS: 20000 km/s 97 94 91 89 86 83 80 77 74 71
Beam Core Anti-matter Power Plant Technology PB-0.75 AR-9 (1) Total Power Output 192 Armour 9 Exp 1%
Size 2 Missile Launcher (20) Missile Size 2 Rate of Fire 5
Size 1 Missile Launcher (20) Missile Size 1 Rate of Fire 5
Missile Fire Control FC48-R1 (10%) (2) Range 48.6m km Resolution 1
Missile Fire Control FC345-R100 (10%) (2) Range 345.6m km Resolution 100
Size 1 Anti-missile Missile (651) Speed: 186,400 km/s End: 4.4m Range: 49m km WH: 2 Size: 1 TH: 8574 / 5144 / 2572
Size 2 Anti-ship Missile (300) Speed: 90,000 km/s End: 53.3m Range: 288m km WH: 16 Size: 2 TH: 2460 / 1476 / 738
Active Search Sensor MR810-R100 (10%) (1) GPS 13500 Range 810.0m km Resolution 100
Active Search Sensor MR48-R1 (10%) (1) GPS 810 Range 48.6m km Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1-60 (15%) (1) Sensitivity 60 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 60m km
EM Detection Sensor EM1-60 (10%) (1) Sensitivity 60 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 60m km
Compact ECCM-8 (1) ECM 80
Missile to hit chances are vs targets moving at 3000 km/s, 5000 km/s and 10,000 km/s
This design is classed as a military vessel for maintenance purposes
Like you, I'm experimenting with what the higher techs can do. I don't know if I'll ever do craft THAT big,
but the idea of an alien admiral wetting himself when he sees your task force, gives me a warm feeling
actually.
Eric
Post by: Erik L on July 05, 2010, 10:50:53 AM
I'd hate to be the JP defense group commander when these monsters appear.
Post by: Starkiller on July 05, 2010, 01:55:35 PM
Eric
Post by: Starkiller on July 06, 2010, 07:52:23 PM
Eric (with a 'C')
Heh
Post by: Erik L on July 06, 2010, 07:53:33 PM
Quote from: "Starkiller"
Erik, what can you tell me about Steve's 'Little Surprise'? I just had a sable wormhole appear in a deadend system I was surveying. Fortunately, Survey Gamma and the JP back to Terran space were on the opposite side of the system from the wormhole. I had heard, somewhat, of this, yet am surprised to see it only a few years into the game. As I am suspecting the Empire is in for the fight of it's life, and info would be appreciated. I've heard just enough to give me the willies.
Eric (with a 'C')
Heh
I've not ever encountered them. Might look in the spoilers forum for more info.